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Is the "CRISIS" on the southern border MADE UP?

Hello:

For the last 100 years, Mexicans have been coming here.  They blew your leaves, picked your lettuce and babysat your children..  Yes, it wasn't legal..  But, we looked the other way because it WASN'T a problem..

It only BECAME a problem because brown people are HATED by the likes of Trump..  You heard him..  He came down the escalator in Trump Tower to declare his candidacy, and to declare his HATRED for Mexicans..  Really..  It's ON tape..


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It IS

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Trump can do no wrong

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Yes, the capitalist loves illegal immigration, it is...a profit center.

Side: It IS
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Border crossings are at a 15 year low. More (by FAR) crimes are committed by "citizens" than by immigrants. Yeah, a very few gang members get in, but, most of them would get in whether there was a wall or not. A wall may stop older women children, NOT gang members. THEY have to be stopped by better laws, judges and technology. $Billions for a wall that barely slows down the few "bad guys" is stupid.

NRA members and those who take advantage OF NRA members cause FAR more deaths than the immigrant population.

Even Ronald Reagan said that any immigrant who has been here for years and stayed out of trouble (not counting minor driving violations or the like), should have the chance to become citizens. Trump has made (likely) $millions hiring them himself! (In place of American workers he'd have to PAY!) "Good for ME, F-you!" Hypocrite-in-chief!

Side: It IS
outlaw60(13747) Disputed
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Now the SPUN OUT AL says something about the NRA and REAGAN as it babbles nonsense.

https://app.providencejournal.com/hercules/extra/2008/gangs/stories/main_story.html

DUMMY can you not read the paper ????????????

GANGS AND THE violence that trails them have become a major problem in Providence, the state’s capital and largest city.

Boys and girls as young as 12 have been identified as members of the Young Bloods, Hanover Boyz, MS-13, the Almighty Latin King Nation, Laos Pride, Tiny Raskal Gang, Original Crip Gang, Oriental Rascals, Providence Street Boys, Dark Side Rascals, 18th Street Gang and the Asian Outlaw Boyz.

Can your FUCKIN DUMB ASS explain where the above gangs in your state have come from you UNINFORMED IDIOT ???????????

Side: Trump can do no wrong
outlaw60(13747) Disputed
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https://www.ri.gov/press/view/18479

MS-13 Leader Francisco "Cisco" Bonilla Pleads Guilty to Firearms and Assault Charges

Attorney General Peter F. Kilmartin today announced that Francisco Bonilla (DOB: 11/8/78), aka "Cisco," with a last known address of 393 Plainfield Street, Providence, pleaded guilty to felony assault, conspiracy to commit felony assault, carrying a firearm without a license and use of a firearm during the commission of a crime of violence (P1-2012-2811DG). Bonilla also pleaded guilty to another count of possession of a firearm without a license (P2-2013-0020AG). Bonilla is the known leader of the local MS-13 gang.

Under the plea agreement, Bonilla was sentenced by Superior Court Justice Robert D. Krause to a total of 20 years, with 10 to serve and the remainder suspended with probation, non-parolable.

Had the case proceeded to trial, the State was prepared to prove beyond a reasonable doubt, that on January 14, 2011, Bonilla, along with three members of MS-13, drove to 46 Lowell Avenue, Providence, the residence of rival gang Tiny Rascal Gang (TRG) leader Ruben Montufar. Once at the residence, Bonilla exited the vehicle, took out a .380 caliber handgun and fired into the occupied residence. No one was injured during the incident. The state was also prepared to prove beyond a reasonable doubt, that on August 11, 2011, Bonilla was in possession of a .25 caliber handgun without a license.

Bonilla was indicted by a Providence County Grand Jury on October 5, 2012, and arrested on October 10, 2012, as a result of a nearly two year investigation by the Rhode Island Safe Streets Task Force, a joint Providence Police and FBI taskforce, into the illegal activity of known MS-13 gang members and associates.

"Putting Cisco Bonilla, the known leader of MS 13 in Rhode Island, behind bars for ten years will create a major disruption in gang's violent, criminal enterprise," said Attorney General Kilmartin. "Make no mistake though. While Cisco has been put on ice for a long time, gang activity will continue to exist, especially in our urban communities. And, as long as they do, I will not waiver in my commitment to disrupt and dismantle them and will make use of all available resources to protect our neighborhoods from the scourge of gang violence."

Special Assistant Attorney General, James Baum, chief of Juvenile and Community Prosecution Unit, prosecuted the case on behalf of the Office of Attorney General.

DUMMY i thought MS -13 did not exist ????

Your fellow traveler has not heard of MS-13 there AL ?????

MSNBC host Joy Reid slammed President Trump for highlighting the murderous MS-13 gang during his State of the Union speech Tuesday night, claiming that the only people who have “ever heard of” MS-13 are the people who watch Fox News.

During his speech, Mr. Trump honored the parents of two teenage girls who were murdered by the international crime gang…

“He gives a speech tonight, in which he makes it sound like the biggest issue in the United States, the biggest threat is MS-13, a gang nobody that doesn’t watch Fox News has ever heard of,” she mocked. “So he makes it sound like they’re the biggest threat.”

Has the RESIDENT DUMB NIGGER paid any attention to Road Island ???????

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outlaw60(13747) Disputed
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What is the UK reporting here AL !!!!!!!!!

These are the hellish conditions that are driving members of the Central American migrant caravan to finally turn their backs on their US dream - by 'self-deporting'.

Despite traveling as much as 4,500 miles - much of it on foot - hundreds of migrants have already accepted free flights home rather than stay longer in the filth-strewn sports complex that has become their temporary home in Tijuana, Mexico.

Lice and respiratory infections are becoming endemic inside the Benito Juarez sports complex and health workers warn that it's a matter of 'when, not if' an outbreak of serious disease sweeps the scruffy labyrinth of tents and tarps sheltering an estimated 6,000 people.

Tijuana's Health Department revealed on Thursday that there are cases of migrants suffering from tuberculosis, chickenpox, skin infections, and there is now a risk of an hepatitis outbreak due to the squalid conditions.

So far, there have been three confirmed cases of tuberculosis, four of chickenpox, and four cases of HIV/AIDS.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6442527/Migrants-begin-turn-diseases-endemic-Tijuana.html

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outlaw60(13747) Disputed
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AL what are you saying ? Is there a difference between illegal immigration and legal immigration ???????

What are the numbers of what you falsely type here and i quote your FUCKIN DUMB ASS - NRA members and those who take advantage OF NRA members cause FAR more deaths than the immigrant population.?

Pony up the numbers GURL !!!! Put Up or SHUT THE FUCK UP !!!!!!!!!!!

You AL are just a FUCKIN BRAIN DEAD WATER CARRIER for a Party that depends on the likes of you.

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outlaw60(13747) Disputed
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AL you are BRILLIANT LMMFAO !!!!!!!!!!

Chicago has 59 active street gangs, with more than 2,000 semi-autonomous factions. Police estimate 100,000 gang members are in the city. More than half are in three gangs — the Gangster Disciples, Latin Kings and Black P Stones.Jun 11, 2018

With all the brilliance you have AL can you explain how many members of the NRA are among the 100,000 gang members in Chicago ?

AL you are FUCKIN STUPID and your IGNORANCE is a GLARING example of that !!!!

https://wtop.com/social-media/2018/06/a-look-at-todays-chicago-gangs-and-how-theyve-changed/

Side: Trump can do no wrong
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This is just to RICH right here !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Law Enforcement and Immigration in Washington

Under a federal program called "Secure Communities," all arrestees are fingerprinted and run through a federal database which checks their criminal record and immigration status. Federal Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) officials have stated that the program is not optional, although Washington Governor Jay Inslee issued an executive order in 2017 that prohibits law enforcement officials in the state from detaining undocumented immigrants at the behest of federal officials. Washington is, in effect, a "sanctuary" state.

SUPER STUPID your STATE OF WASHINGTON should get all the illegal alien problems so says the Gubernor Jay Inslee !

https://immigration.findlaw.com/immigration-laws-and-resources/washington-state-immigration-laws.html

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The figures given for Oregon are $913,046,575, cost of illegal aliens to Oregon state taxpayers, and $1,219,830,224, cost of illegal aliens & their kids to Oregon state taxpayers.

SUPER STUPID you like you some ILLEGALS on the LEFT COAST ?

https://www.oregonir.org/book/export/html/2569

Side: Trump can do no wrong
excon(10306) Disputed
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SUPER STUPID you like you some ILLEGALS on the LEFT COAST ?

Hello poochy boy:

As usual, you have it backwards.. Because they make up their social security numbers to work, they pay INTO that account, but CAN'T file a tax return to get a refund like you can.. So, every penny that was deducted goes into the national treasury.. Plus, they pay every other tax that you do, like sales taxes, highway taxes, payroll taxes, and gas taxes..

Now, fetch this stick..

excon

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outlaw60(13747) Disputed
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SUPER STUPID this is wrong ????????????

The figures given for Oregon are $913,046,575, cost of illegal aliens to Oregon state taxpayers, and $1,219,830,224, cost of illegal aliens & their kids to Oregon state taxpayers.

SUPER STUPID you like you some ILLEGALS on the LEFT COAST ?

https://www.oregonir.org/book/export/html/2569

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outlaw60(13747) Disputed
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SUPER STUPID likes it's ILLEGAL ALIENS to make up SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBERS so it can fleece the system yet the DUMMY wants it some ILLEGAL ALIENS in the country !

How is IT you are so FUCKIN CONFUSED ? Is it CNN or MSDNC that have your BRAIN SCRAMBLED ?

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outlaw60(13747) Disputed
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Road and Bridge tax is not included in vehicle registration in Washington State there DUMMY ?

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outlaw60(13747) Disputed
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SUPER STUPID being the BUSINESS OWNER you are you can explain how ILLEGAL ALIENS pay payroll taxes ? Surely your BRILLIANCE can shine through on this subject !

Side: Trump can do no wrong
outlaw60(13747) Disputed
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So as a BUSINESS OWNER you employ ILLEGAL ALIENS ???????

Does the GOVERNMENT know this ????????

Side: Trump can do no wrong
outlaw60(13747) Disputed
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Did the BUSINESS OWNER avoid what FICA is ? If you cannot answer Troll you show the FOOL you are !!!!!!!!!!!!

Side: Trump can do no wrong