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It is believing in something magical based on stories of ancient more primitive peoples. Absolutely just as believable.
Furthermore, since these gods are omnipotent, theoretically it is entirely possible that one god could create that which we refer to as another god. FSM could be in the family. He's like that uncle most people don't really want to come visit. Perhaps he even touches family members inappropriately? Hey, is that maybe how Mary actually got knocked up?
Satan is a god. And the fallen angels also are gods. And the fall of Adam and Eve were to be like God. So man wants also to be gods, like Lucifer did.
There likely was validity to their weird god stories. But God always took them down, and gave them into Israel's hands in defeat. Sometimes God used them to judge and discipline Israel also.
The question isn't are there gods, it is which in the end is the Only God. King, Lord, and Judge of all.
And we all get to decide who is our God or god.
God already wrote the ending. And He is not off on His appointed times.
26 Then God said, “Let Us make man in Our image, according to Our likeness;
Genesis 3
22 Then the Lord God said, “Behold, the man has become like one of Us, knowing good and evil; and now, he might stretch out his hand, and take also from the tree of life, and eat, and live forever”—
Philippians 2
3 Do nothing from selfishness or empty conceit, but with humility of mind regard one another as more important than yourselves; 4 do not merely look out for your own personal interests, but also for the interests of others.
5 Have this attitude in yourselves which was also in Christ Jesus, 6 who, although He existed in the form of God, did not regard equality with God a thing to be grasped, 7 but emptied Himself, taking the form of a bond-servant, and being made in the likeness of men.
8 Being found in appearance as a man, He humbled Himself by becoming obedient to the point of death, even death on a cross.
9 For this reason also, God highly exalted Him, and bestowed on Him the name which is above every name,
10 so that at the name of Jesus every knee will bow, of those who are in heaven and on earth and under the earth, 11 and that every tongue will confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.
Hebrews 2
4 God also testifying with them, both by signs and wonders and by various miracles and by gifts of the Holy Spirit according to His own will.
5 For He did not subject to angels the world to come, concerning which we are speaking.
6 But one has testified somewhere, saying,
“What is man, that You remember him?
Or the son of man, that You are concerned about him?
7 “You have made him for a little while lower than the angels;
You have crowned him with glory and honor,
And have appointed him over the works of Your hands;
8 You have put all things in subjection under his feet.”
For in subjecting all things to him, He left nothing that is not subject to him. But now we do not yet see all things subjected to him.
9 But we do see Him who was made for a little while lower than the angels, namely, Jesus, because of the suffering of death crowned with glory and honor, so that by the grace of God He might taste death for everyone.
10 For it was fitting for Him, for whom are all things, and through whom are all things, in bringing many sons to glory, to perfect the author of their salvation through sufferings. 11 For both He who sanctifies and those who are sanctified are all from one Father; for which reason He is not ashamed to call them brethren, 12 saying,
“I will proclaim Your name to My brethren,
In the midst of the congregation I will sing Your praise.”
13 And again,
“I will put My trust in Him.”
And again,
“Behold, I and the children whom God has given Me.”
14 Therefore, since the children share in flesh and blood, He Himself likewise also partook of the same, that through death He might render powerless him who had the power of death, that is, the devil, 15 and might free those who through fear of death were subject to slavery all their lives.
16 For assuredly He does not give help to angels, but He gives help to the descendant of Abraham. 17 Therefore, He had to be made like His brethren in all things, so that He might become a merciful and faithful high priest in things pertaining to God, to make propitiation for the sins of the people.
18 For since He Himself was tempted in that which He has suffered, He is able to come to the aid of those who are tempted.
So how do you answer the unanswerable. Seems there are more questions than answers.
This is the point. Not how many cells match or divide, that is not my area of selected expertise or study.
But what about everything else? That's my entire point!
So my entire point is huge boulders and people want to just talk about pebbles
How do three Stone structures, that were impossible to build by average humans appear each across oceans from each other? Which are clearly set in ancient times, unable to be moved by humans, and mathematically more advance than the greatest math minds. You can connect them with string going across oceans. And all face the same direction. So, without computer or aviation how do you all answer these types of things by evolution?
My answer is from biblical history regarding the advances brought to mankind by fallen angels, who for a time seeded the population, and made mutations of currupted human seed as told in Genesis. Making unusual genetic mutations of giants. Of which science would rather hide, than have to rock the boat by answering. Israel has in some texts, that they were like grasshoppers before some of these nations of mutations.
The Nephilim were on the earth in those days, and also afterward, when the sons of God came in to the daughters of men, and they bore children to them. Those were the mighty men who were of old, men of renown.
Numbers 13: 33
There also we saw the Nephilim (the sons of Anak are part of the Nephilim); and we became like grasshoppers in our own sight, and so we were in their sight.”
FYI, this is why God said to kill all down to the infants. The seed was currupted by the fallen angels.
It's not mainstream theology, Christians have avoided this topic.
Numbers 13:27-33King James Version (KJV)
27 And they told him, and said, We came unto the land whither thou sentest us, and surely it floweth with milk and honey; and this is the fruit of it.
28 Nevertheless the people be strong that dwell in the land, and the cities are walled, and very great: and moreover we saw the children of Anak there.
29 The Amalekites dwell in the land of the south: and the Hittites, and the Jebusites, and the Amorites, dwell in the mountains: and the Canaanites dwell by the sea, and by the coast of Jordan.
30 And Caleb stilled the people before Moses, and said, Let us go up at once, and possess it; for we are well able to overcome it.
31 But the men that went up with him said, We be not able to go up against the people; for they are stronger than we.
32 And they brought up an evil report of the land which they had searched unto the children of Israel, saying, The land, through which we have gone to search it, is a land that eateth up the inhabitants thereof; and all the people that we saw in it are men of a great stature.
33 And there we saw the giants, the sons of Anak, which come of the giants: and we were in our own sight as grasshoppers, and so we were in their sight.
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Genesis 6:4
There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.
Numbers 13:33
And there we saw the giants, the sons of Anak, which come of the giants: and we were in our own sight as grasshoppers, and so we were in their sight.
Deuteronomy 2:11
Which also were accounted giants, as the Anakims; but the Moabites called them Emims.
Deuteronomy 2:20
(That also was accounted a land of giants: giants dwelt therein in old time; and the Ammonites call them Zamzummims;
Deuteronomy 3:11
For only Og king of Bashan remained of the remnant of giants; behold his bedstead was a bedstead of iron; is it not in Rabbath of the children of Ammon? nine cubits was the length thereof, and four cubits the breadth of it, after the cubit of a man.
Deuteronomy 3:13
And the rest of Gilead, and all Bashan, being the kingdom of Og, gave I unto the half tribe of Manasseh; all the region of Argob, with all Bashan, which was called the land of giants.
Joshua 12:4
And the coast of Og king of Bashan, which was of the remnant of the giants, that dwelt at Ashtaroth and at Edrei,
Joshua 13:12
All the kingdom of Og in Bashan, which reigned in Ashtaroth and in Edrei, who remained of the remnant of the giants: for these did Moses smite, and cast them out.
Joshua 15:8
And the border went up by the valley of the son of Hinnom unto the south side of the Jebusite; the same is Jerusalem: and the border went up to the top of the mountain that lieth before the valley of Hinnom westward, which is at the end of the valley of the giants northward:
Joshua 17:15
And Joshua answered them, If thou be a great people, then get thee up to the wood country, and cut down for thyself there in the land of the Perizzites and of the giants, if mount Ephraim be too narrow for thee.
Joshua 18:16
And the border came down to the end of the mountain that lieth before the valley of the son of Hinnom, and which is in the valley of the giants on the north, and descended to the valley of Hinnom, to the side of Jebusi on the south, and descended to Enrogel,
2 Samuel 21:16
And Ishbibenob, which was of the sons of the giant, the weight of whose spear weighed three hundred shekels of brass in weight, he being girded with a new sword, thought to have slain David.
2 Samuel 21:18
And it came to pass after this, that there was again a battle with the Philistines at Gob: then Sibbechai the Hushathite slew Saph, which was of the sons of the giant.
2 Samuel 21:20
And there was yet a battle in Gath, where was a man of great stature, that had on every hand six fingers, and on every foot six toes, four and twenty in number; and he also was born to the giant.
2 Samuel 21:22
These four were born to the giant in Gath, and fell by the hand of David, and by the hand of his servants.
1 Chronicles 20:4
And it came to pass after this, that there arose war at Gezer with the Philistines; at which time Sibbechai the Hushathite slew Sippai, that was of the children of the giant: and they were subdued.
1 Chronicles 20:6
And yet again there was war at Gath, where was a man of great stature, whose fingers and toes were four and twenty, six on each hand, and six on each foot and he also was the son of the giant.
1 Chronicles 20:8
These were born unto the giant in Gath; and they fell by the hand of David, and by the hand of his servants.
Job 16:14
He breaketh me with breach upon breach, he runneth upon me like a giant.
America’s Stonehenge is an archaeological site consisting of a number of large rocks and stone structures scattered around roughly 30 acres within the town of Salem, New Hampshire in the northeast United States. America’s Stonehenge is open to the public for a fee.
The structure is said to be from around 2400 BC. A number of hypotheses exist as to the origin and purpose of the structures. Claims that the site has pre-Columbian origins are usually regarded as controversial. Among structures at the site are standing stones that have been erected to align with astronomical events just like Stonehenge in England.
The stones line up with the summer solstice, the winter solstice and the equinoxes when the sun is on a level plane with the earth’s equator and the cross-quarter days which fall in between them.
Artifacts found on the site lead archaeologists to the conclusion that the stones were actually assembled for a variety of reasons, for example, a “Baal stone” was found that has inscriptions that say ” To Baal on behalf of the Canaanites this is dedicated.”
A much-discussed “sacrificial stone” which contains grooves that some say channeled blood. The stone is 9ft x 6ft, it sits on four legs and weighs about four and half tons. You can see where the blood would channel down and drip off the edge into a vase and there is even a cut out for the vase.
Another bizarre find is that at the summer solstice stone of the American Stonehenge, a line extends all the way to Stonehenge in England, and through one of the trilithon’s. It then extends further east to Beirut Lebanon.
So the question is, what is the connection. What is a Stonehenge doing in New Hampshire that has archaeoastronomy, stones that line up with solstices, a stone that is dedicated to the Canaanite god Baal, a sacrificial stone, an alignment that extends to the England Stonehenge which continues east to Lebanon where the Canaanites come from?
Canaan, area variously defined in historical and biblical literature, but always centred on Palestine. Its original pre-Israelite inhabitants were called Canaanites.
The names Canaan and Canaanite occur in cuneiform, Egyptian, and Phoenician writings from about the 15th century bc as well as in the Old Testament. In these sources, “Canaan” refers sometimes to an area encompassing all of Palestine and Syria, sometimes only to the land west of the Jordan River, and sometimes just to a strip of coastal land from Acre (ʿAkko) northward.
The Israelites occupied and conquered Palestine, or Canaan, beginning in the late 2nd millennium bc, or perhaps earlier; and the Bible justifies such occupation by identifying Canaan with the Promised Land, the land promised to the Israelites by God.
Biblically, Canaanites are identified in Genesis as descendants of Canaan, a son of Ham and grandson of Noah. Also called Phoenicia and Phoenicians.
Baal - Canaan was situated at the crossroads of several cultures, and throughout its recorded history its art and literature illustrate a mixture of many elements: Egyptian, Mycenaean, Cretan, Hurrian, and Mesopotamian.
Most of what is known about Canaanite religion is derived from a series of tablets discovered at Ras Shamra. The principal god was El, but the jurisdiction over rainfall and fertility was delegated to Baal, or Hadad. Other important deities included Resheph, lord of plague and the nether world; Kothar, the divine craftsman; Asherah, consort of El; and Astarte, goddess of fertility.
The Israelites had problems when they turned to idol worship of Baal.
Judges 2:11-15
11 Then the Israelites did evil in the eyes of the Lord and served the Baals. 12 They forsook the Lord, the God of their ancestors, who had brought them out of Egypt. They followed and worshiped various gods of the peoples around them. They aroused the Lord’s anger 13 because they forsook him and served Baal and Ashtaroth.
14 In his anger against Israel the Lord gave them into the hands of raiders who plundered them. He sold them into the hands of their enemies all around, whom they were no longer able to resist. 15 Whenever Israel went out to fight, the hand of the Lord was against them to defeat them, just as he had sworn to them. They were in great distress.
Jeremiah 23:13
In the prophets of Samaria I saw an unsavory thing: they prophesied by Baal and led my people Israel astray.
Elijah came unto all the people, and said, How long halt ye between two opinions? If the Lord be God, follow him: but if Baal, then follow him. And the people answered him not a word.
1 Kings 18:21
Then said Elijah unto the people, I, even I only, remain a prophet of the Lord; but Baal’s prophets are four hundred and fifty men.
1 Kings 18:22
1 Kings 18:40
And Elijah said to them, “Seize the prophets of Baal; let not one of them escape.” And they seized them. And Elijah brought them down to the brook Kishon and slaughtered them there.
2 Kings 23:5
And he deposed the priests whom the kings of Judah had ordained to make offerings in the high places at the cities of Judah and around Jerusalem; those also who burned incense to Baal, to the sun and the moon and the constellations and all the host of the heavens.
So as we see from the Scriptures above the Israelites struggled with Baal worship until the time of the exile, especially in the more agrarian areas of the northern Kingdom of Israel (also due to some degree to its official establishment as a state religion in the North for a time during the reign of Ahab and Jezebel, c. 850 BC).
However, as Jeremiah makes clear, it was a recurring problem in the Southern Kingdom as well.
Largely due to Jeremiah’s insistence that the nation would fall because of its lack of commitment to God exemplified in its dabbling in Baal worship, the problem faded after the return from exile in 538 BC. While there were traces of it later, Baal worship was never again the problem that it was prior to the Exile.
So to say the least it is quite strange to find a Stonehenge in New Hampshire that predates Columbus arriving to the “New world” in 1492 by thousands of years that has an artifact stone dedicated to Baal including a sacrifice stone.
Did some of the Canaanites find their way to America and set up an archaeoastronomical site?
The fact that a straight line can be extended from Stonehenge America to Stonehenge England further east to Canaan is not just mere happenstance.
What do you think?
Some information sourced from History Channel and Wikipedia
You'll have to be a bit more specific, since there are thousands of them. Maybe more. We have seen gods invented by mankind from all parts of the globe over the past several millennia.
And none of them are any more credible or believable than any others. That is to say, a god from Hinduism like Vishna or a god from Greek Mythology, like Zeus, has no more proof for it than that god from the Hebrew fables.
I think Yahweh, or Yah-Yah, or Elohim, or some such nonsense was his name. All I remember about him was that he was a really angry, petty, jealous, murderous douche of a god. Who has not been heard from since those Bronze Age times when he was committing ethnic cleansing.
Actually, if somebody who believes in and worships Bronze Age Hebrew gods who murder millions, as well as 3-days dead Jewish carpenters who rise from the grave says that zoo animals actually spoke to here, I would believe it, since that person has already shown signs of psychological delusion.
Also, the fact you refer to those zoo animals as my ancestors served as yet more confirmation that you, along with most Christians who deny Evolution, really do not even understand the most basic tenets of that theory. Being that Evolution never claimed we descended from apes.
We see evolution in front of us. Total depravity, the final stage of evolution. You all win, whatever prize is set for your species, kind, family, viruses, or whatever you want to call it. Look around you! You think you evolved to greatness? You got to be as bright as a wet pack of matches!
Monkey boy, Darwin fraud, whatever rock the virus of evolution crawled out of, God created and you will find it out eventually. Regardless of your openness and your choices.
Your invited to figure it out before you are forced to know it.
That's all. These arguments are kindness and opportunity.
The choice to know will not exist for you soon.
Did your mom ever say don't make that face or you'll get stuck like that? Well don't harden you heart because for real it actually will get stuck like that.
Does anyone have any perception with anything outside of a textbook? One dimensional, 2 dimensional max!
Soulless or no spirit is NO other dimension. That's the way you want it so it is! Who wants to be without soul, and absent of spirit. The place of living, feeling, touching more than with your hands. That's a pretty crappie deal if you ask me!
How did everyone get so two dimensional? Does everyone live in a flat world? There is no intuition or sensitivity to all the other dimensions around everyone, you all look digitally programmed.
FYI, that is the mark of the beast. It’s a mark on the frontal lobes as “on their foreheads.” It’s a mind unable to draw from their other dimmmension, perception, other senses. Then taste smell, etc…
That's the mark of the beast. A sealed shut mind that can’t understand or percieve anything outside of what's in front of them in a text book by an all powerful educator to mimic!
Everyone is being pulled down, falling out of higher dimensions.
That was the fall, and you guys are falling to only one dimension.
Day 1 could be 24 hours or it could be millions of years
Same with Days 2, 3, and 4. God made time on day 4, the 1st 24 hour day as we know it is day 5. God made sea, birds, animals, man on Days 5 and 6, made from dirt even the animals.
On Day 3 all kinds of stuff was growing. But orderly Creation as we know creatures was 24 hours by God's hand. And if a believer thinks those days are longer I don't really dispute that. I don't feel it's a major doctrine issue to say they were each 1000 years.
But God built creatures and they did not evolve. Now if he spread it out over 1000 years is no matter. But the wind of random chance did not establish dna sequences, and your a decieved fool if you think it did!
Now there may have been all kinds of mutations before God created, man curiously appeared with consciences and reasoning 6000 years ago. So what you all are seeing I won't invalidate. But it's not what you all think.
Satan to is a mutant shape-shifter, and his demons were seeding, and it's telling that Satan an appears as a snake, a serpent. And it doesn't say He made insects either, so they are likely a growth that occurred beginning day 3 through day 4.
So maybe what evolution is seeing is Satan's creative value, where he takes what God has established and currupted it.
If you think about it, where is venom and poison and sting and virus and sickness found?
As far as murdering millions where?
Before the flood people were continuously violent. There was a reason, we would not be here today if He hadn't. And as far as killing the seed of currupted seed of demons, which made giants, these were races of cannibals. Their seed to the infant was currupted!
----Genesis 6:4
There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.
Numbers 13:33
And there we saw the giants, the sons of Anak, which come of the giants: and we were in our own sight as grasshoppers, and so we were in their sight.
Deuteronomy 2:11
Which also were accounted giants, as the Anakims; but the Moabites called them Emims.
Deuteronomy 2:20
(That also was accounted a land of giants: giants dwelt therein in old time; and the Ammonites call them Zamzummims;
Deuteronomy 3:11
For only Og king of Bashan remained of the remnant of giants; behold his bedstead was a bedstead of iron; is it not in Rabbath of the children of Ammon? nine cubits was the length thereof, and four cubits the breadth of it, after the cubit of a man.
Deuteronomy 3:13
And the rest of Gilead, and all Bashan, being the kingdom of Og, gave I unto the half tribe of Manasseh; all the region of Argob, with all Bashan, which was called the land of giants.
Joshua 12:4
And the coast of Og king of Bashan, which was of the remnant of the giants, that dwelt at Ashtaroth and at Edrei,
Joshua 13:12
All the kingdom of Og in Bashan, which reigned in Ashtaroth and in Edrei, who remained of the remnant of the giants: for these did Moses smite, and cast them out.
Joshua 15:8
And the border went up by the valley of the son of Hinnom unto the south side of the Jebusite; the same is Jerusalem: and the border went up to the top of the mountain that lieth before the valley of Hinnom westward, which is at the end of the valley of the giants northward:
Joshua 17:15
And Joshua answered them, If thou be a great people, then get thee up to the wood country, and cut down for thyself there in the land of the Perizzites and of the giants, if mount Ephraim be too narrow for thee.
Joshua 18:16
And the border came down to the end of the mountain that lieth before the valley of the son of Hinnom, and which is in the valley of the giants on the north, and descended to the valley of Hinnom, to the side of Jebusi on the south, and descended to Enrogel,
2 Samuel 21:16
And Ishbibenob, which was of the sons of the giant, the weight of whose spear weighed three hundred shekels of brass in weight, he being girded with a new sword, thought to have slain David.
2 Samuel 21:18
And it came to pass after this, that there was again a battle with the Philistines at Gob: then Sibbechai the Hushathite slew Saph, which was of the sons of the giant.
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2 Samuel 21:20
And there was yet a battle in Gath, where was a man of great stature, that had on every hand six fingers, and on every foot six toes, four and twenty in number; and he also was born to the giant.
2 Samuel 21:22
These four were born to the giant in Gath, and fell by the hand of David, and by the hand of his servants.
1 Chronicles 20:4
And it came to pass after this, that there arose war at Gezer with the Philistines; at which time Sibbechai the Hushathite slew Sippai, that was of the children of the giant: and they were subdued.
1 Chronicles 20:6
And yet again there was war at Gath, where was a man of great stature, whose fingers and toes were four and twenty, six on each hand, and six on each foot and he also was the son of the giant.
1 Chronicles 20:8
These were born unto the giant in Gath; and they fell by the hand of David, and by the hand of his servants.
Job 16:14
He breaketh me with breach upon breach, he runneth upon me like a giant.
There you go again with your straw man argument. You imply there are many gods, all equal, and none of them are God. Duhhhhh, wow man, how did you figure out that gods are not God? You create an absurdity which is not God, then you say the god you are arguing against is not God. Talk about Greek Pathology, you're full of it and I know why...it's because you walk according to your lusts.
Saint, I am beginning to wonder if you truly understand the meaning of a Straw Man argument?
Because, it is certainly NOT a Straw Man when I claim there are, according to all the world's myriad religions and their respective holy books, thousands of gods.
And thus, since they all think they have the one true inside knowledge of true gods, they are all, on an objective, global scale, equal.
Hate top break it to you, but an Islamist or a Hindu or a Buddhist would tall you that YOU are the mistaken one, with your belief in your "one true god."
So....this claim of mine, about all those gods, is not a Straw Man statement.
Perhaps you can prove me wrong, here and now, and tell me exactly what you think constitutes a Straw Man arguement? Without Googling it.
I ask this because I cannot help but notice you egregiously over-use the term Straw Man when taking exception to other arguments. Seems like ANY argument that you do not agree with, you think is a Straw Man.
So, tell us: what is a Straw Man argument according to formal debate and rhetoric guidelines and parameters.
Thanks. I'll be awaiting. And then I will tell you my definition. that is, the TRUE one.
God is the creator of all things, therefore anything you call a "god" is less than God, and when you imply all gods are the same you are ignoring God who created all things and upholding a straw man which cannot be God and insisting it is not God..........duh, it's not God, your straw man is not God. How long did it take you to figure that out?
Slappy, when you know the truth you know the difference between truth and lies. If you can't tell the difference between God and gods, it's only because you choose to be ignorant.
It can be demonstrated that gods of religions, you name the religion, are not God in reality. Jesus Christ is God, He is a person in reality and not a religion. Knowing God is not a religion, it's a relationship made possible by God Himself in Jesus Christ.
I can never prove you wrong, that is not my job, not my goal, not my responsibility. I can only present the truth and you can either believe it or not. And it is not me who egregiously over uses the term "straw man", it is you who invents straw men to uphold as things which cannot be God, then you argue they are not God. The reason you do this is there is no wisdom, nor counsel, nor understanding against the Truth, against God, against Jesus Christ the Living God. All you can do is uphold straw men which are not God, even your version of Jesus Christ is a straw man and not God the Man, the Son of God, Jesus Christ. When you talk about Jesus, you uphold all kinds of lies and silly rumors in support of your straw man which cannot be God if you call it Jesus, Vishnu, Allah, or whatever. You deny the deity of God, then say the thing you are talking about cannot be divine. Of course it cannot be divine if it is not God who created all things.
By implying gods of religions are the same as God who created all things, then there would be no Supreme God, and none of the things you talk about can be God.......so all of the gods you talk about are straw men which are not God because you can only argue that your straw men are not God. You cannot say God is not God without being a liar.
I already googles and pasted the definition of straw man from wickipedia for another debater a few days ago, that definition clearly showed that person was doing the exact thing you are doing, arguing against your own consciously created straw man which is not God.
Why don't you refer to God as "God"? Why do you always have to talk about countless things which are not God and say they are the same as God? God is above all things, there is no god like Him who created all things which you or others call "gods". You cannot limit your discussion to God because you can't argue against God without creating a straw man which is not God and then arguing against your straw man. It's really silly....and you expect me to call you intelligent? You may be Einstein the second, but he was silly in his thinking toward God as are you. You've just built a mental block wall trying to keep God out, so you talk about things which are not God but are your own consciously created straw men which you can handle in your imagination and they cannot be God because they are straw men.
The thing you are talking about it not God, you are talking about your straw men which cannot be God and insisting they are not God and I agree with you, your straw men are not God. Duhhhh.
So you see? No need. Gods, goddesses, avatars.....all of them only invented words. the word god is not a proper noun. Hell, it does not even denote a REAL being. Why on Earth would I cap it?
I only cap the names of all those gods, like Yah-Yah, or Thor, or Zeus, or Odin. Or Satan.
I asked "why do you refuse to refer to God as "God"? When you are talking about things which are not God, no matter if you call them "the Christian god", the Hindu god, or whatever and arguing that they cannot be God, you are using a straw man to argue against, a thing which is not God but rather is your own created absurdity, your own consciously created straw man you argue against instead of arguing against God. All you really have to say in honesty is that you do not believe in God. When you start creating straw men, things which are not God, and posting volumes or arguments on why they cannot be God, you're being sill. The things you talk about are not God, they are straw men you need because there is no wisdom, nor counsel, nor understanding against the Lord God Almighty who created, sustains, and rules over all things included a thing called Slappy.
If you need a dictionary to define God, I think you are learning challenged. I knew what the word "God" meant when I was a child trying hard to believe in evolution and not really believing God cared what I believe. Now I know God wants me to believe the truth. You can know the truth, and you better believe it.
God's name is God. When you talk about "Yah-Yah" or YWHY, you are not talking about God, you are talking about a thing which you deny is God and calling it be a name that may be known by others as a name God uses for Himself, but when you use it you have already changed the meaning of the name into a thing which is not God. I think you know this, and that's why you refuse to use God's simplest and most commonly referred to name, "God".
You are creating straw men, your argument is a straw man argument against a thing which is not God..your arguments are the mental gymnastics and exercise of foolishness.....your being silly.
the word "god" should not be capitalized. The name, God, is capitalized. It's a proper noun, the name of a specific person, place, or thing. The word "God", a proper noun, is not the same as "god" which is a only a noun and not a proper noun.
If you are going to talk about God or against God, then you have to say who you are talking about or the thing you are presenting which is not God and then you insist it cannot be God is a straw man. How many times do I have to agree with you that the things you say are not God are not God? Comeon, Slappy, put your tinking cap on. This really is silly. The only honest thing you can say about God is that you do not believe in God. Beyond that, you are creating straw men which are not God and going on and on and on saying they are not God...well duh. They are not God, all of the things you present as gods are not God. You win. I agree with you. Your straw men are not God.
Once again you show your pitiful reading and comprehension skills. I know two letters words are difficult for you to grasp, but maybe you can do a refresher course in two year old English and figure out how "if" is used in a sentence.
Do you even read what people are saying? I'm pretty convinced at this point that you're a bot that runs around and posts random permutations of "Democrats", "Muslims", and "Political Correctness".
"Lucifer" as a name for Satan was based on a mis-translation in the Septuagint. The original author was referring to the King of Babylon as Lucifer, which means "light bearer." Therefore, it is not an accurate name for that Satan (Hasatan, btw, which only means "enemy") dude that your type spends so much time worrying about.
Again....you show that not only do you not know the basic tenets of MY ideology and belief in Evolution, you really have some major holes in your grasp of your own superstition, er, religion. Ooops.
Your quoting a Mormon website, they are not atheists. Mormons teach that Jesus is not God but is a brother of Satan. Last time you quoted United Church of Christ calling them Unity Church. Who says atheists need to get their facts straight before they claim to know what they are talking about anyways? They don't feel they will answer to God for fraudulent posts, so why shouldn't they just throw out whatever flotsam they can?
All figments of scared and gullible homo sapien minds.
All of them, merely adult versions of those invisible childhood friends...that most of us long since outgrew.
But, yeah, sure, the Flying Spaghetti Monster is at least as credible and believable as any invented god. Maybe even more so. He is at least more current. Since not one of the thousands of invented gods has shown themselves even once during our lifetimes.
That's a straw man argument, Slappy, and I think you know it but probably won't admit it. It's funny watching the face of an atheist when they are playing this game, how they put on an innocent face and seriously expect you to believe they don't know who God is. They know full well God is who they are denying, but somehow they expect you to believe their nonsensical statements such as "I have no God belief", or "I have no god belief". A god is not God. Atheists have to create straw men to argue against when they pretend to explain why they believe God cannot be God. Thousands of gods which are not God are not god. The gods you insist are not God, indeed are not God but rather are your own consciously created straw men, things which do not exist outside of your imagination. God is there and cannot be contained or limited by your imagination if you acknowledge Him or not. You won't acknowledge Him, you will only acknowledge your own consciously created straw men which are not God, and go on and on and on with silly "proofs" that your straw men are not God.
Your straw men can be contained and limited by your imagination, so they cannot be God. One of the characteristics of God is that He cannot be limited by anybody other than Himself. He limits you, you do not limit Him. He'll knock you out before you knock Him out, Slappy. Your fighting a losing battle, losing everything good, losing your soul to sin and it's taking you into the fire of Hell. The Saviour, God, Jesus, took your place to save you from it, but you are strong, you are brave, you are proud.....any fool can be strong, brave, and proud. It's rare, but I have seen atheists who came to their senses, repented of their sin and believed on the Lord Jesus Christ in His resurrection and received Him as their Savior and were born of the Spirit of God for eternal life. You probably never will believe, you probably never will be saved, and you sure won't have any excuse.
Could He have prevented it? No, not with free will in place.
God gave man a choice, children are not slaves. Slaves are bound without choice, children are bound by choice, choosing the way of the Father by heart, soul, and mind.
My questions; If God did know of this fall ahead, then wouldn't He be looking at what already occured from an Omnipresent prespective seeing from the end of events and life of our days, after they had already occurred?
So then, If God “could have,” should He have changed “the fall” and prevented it? Thereby removing the work of a just judgement, mans sentencing, and curse of dust taken from the ground?
If God already knewn man's fall would occur, and if mankind's outcome was pre-known, then wouldn't God have to be a liar and a cheater to deny rightful judgements of His laws, and be unjust in retribution to Satan, who's final judgement is not and cannot be altered?
If God is a just judge. Wouldn't His attribute of just judgement then cause God Himself to fall under His own condemnation also?
What if God back peddled, and didn't let the sentencing of the guilty parties stick? What if God denied justice, and denied retribution of the blood lust of Satan?
Wouldn’t God have to cheat and dishonor Himself, thereby making Him unrighteous, and then not a just judge? Making God who judges fairly, unfair by His own standard of righteousness?
Wouldn't that then also be a legal precedence for then Satan to become God, enabling evil Satan to then Judge Holy God?
Wouldn't Satan then have been able to claim under law God Himself along with His children placing him above the law and God then under the law?
This is what God did do for us in response to what He foreknew. He knew from looking back in time from the end what would happen, and God altered our possibilities and our potential for the future of our eternal souls, and eventually also our bodies, by weaving in with judgement, His Salvation, which He promised Eve from the beginning at judgement of the fall.
By looking back at our pre-known history, God placed prophetic fulfillments of Salvation, written and demonstrated, with instructions, and His own blood, sweat, and tears. Promised and fulfilled from the beginning to the end, in order to accomplish the best for those who rise out of the dust with Jesus, and are privileged by grace to along with the Only Begotton Son, we can also call Him Father.
To His Children, His Sheep, Jesus calls out the One Way, the One Truth, and The Eternal Life.
He showed the way personally, making our road where there was no road. He showed us the way.
All who love Him, and desire eternal life must first pick up their cross and follow Him all the way through the narrow road, to the narrow gate, an unpopular road.
The one and only way to escape the cursed dust of the ground is through the work of the Messiah, His walk in humanity overcoming our flesh, His cross destroying it's grip, and His Resurrection making us new creations.
He redeemed us as Satan watched the power of God smash his little serpent mind, wounding his head!
Jesus’ work in the world was to save man from the judgement of death, for all under the law, are judged by the whole law, since we all break God’s law, we all were hopelessly condemned.
Dust of the ground was placed under the prosecutor and jailor's belly, the serpent. On the ground on his belly, eating dust of the ground all of his days.
The dust gave Satan claim to us. Returning to dust due to the fall out of eternity of life in the garden by default with Satan, put the curse of sin at work against us.
Judgement and condemnation passed on that day, making dust bound to the the belly of the serpent, who lays on the ground imprisoning the dust below him.
Appetites, the serpents and ours, to be forever enslaved by dust which is currupted flesh. We see this clearly through addictions of every kind, from cookies and gluttony to gambling and heroine to cheating, sexual impulses that ruin our lives and our families, to every destructive impulse we each wrestle, or give in to and accept.
We are born already under retribution of a death sentence from the fall in Genesis 3. “To dust mankind shall return.”
We spend our lives toiling against ourselves, our flesh working against us and our "willpower"
We are always declining, fighting with the ourselves, our desire to do good, aging, our flesh seems to pull us down. Wanting to do good, yet we do evil, doing good is soooo hard!
We were made from the dust of the ground, whether or not you think through evolution and Intelligent design, or a creation day each twenty-four hour days, the dust from the ground still built man, either evolving or in One Day.
The image of God in the Garden was a given, but after the fall, it is now a choice. And the knowledge of the workings of evil within us took the choice of being like God, to being gods like Lucifer, who is the fallen Bright Morning Star.
God made man from the dust outside the Garden, He then went from him and and planted a special Garden for man.
Genesis says, God made man from the dust, then went toward the East, prepared and planted a Garden, then He placed man into it.
A few thoughts I have on my confirmation shelf, that I have not yet confirmed as doctrine. But I see enough in scripture to think the following origination of Satan and Sheol is accurate.
What if our free will came from the dust of the ground which God used to make us?
Star-dust from this bright fallen angel, possibly imploding of the “Bright Morning Star, Lucifer?” Making a Blackhole to be Sheol?
What if space as we know it is really God suspending our whole universe, holding it in orbit from descending down within the blackhole made by Lucifer's fall?
What if space as we know it is really God suspending our whole universe, holding it in orbit from descending down within the blackhole made by Lucifer's fall?
Science currently has modern knowledge, and has decided physics is now changing adjusting from some previous rules of physics, with ideas and studies of our known universe and space is curiously expanding. Like the Bible says, He stretches the Heavens like a tent. Hmm God stretches whet we know as space.
Possibly, maybe to swallow our world whole in the day of final judgement?
What if the growth of man's evil and violene we see in epidemic proportions today, is a gravitational depravity pulling this world down into the Blackhole Sheol? Man bound unable to escape iron bars and chains in these last days, and sealing man's final condemnation. Mankind choosing dust as their god, the image of fathers as devils, and of Satan, the father of deceptions, murders and lies?
Sheol a Blackhole, a gravitational pull timing mankind's fate to Satan fate, our condemned dust falling with him into the deep? Evil follows us, it’s sealing shut the death sentence, living a life against God, born of flesh under judgement, with dust already sentenced, to this downward spiral of by it’s gravitational pull?
God is letting this world pass away, this heaven and earth will pass away, as it go deeper and deeper into Satan's locked pit, blackhole, Sheol.
The Christian message is this, He also made a way for us a way of escape. Take it and live, or don't! Free will, if you don't look up your choice is made!
There is One Way, Only One! Through the work of Jesus.
He hung the dust with it’s judgement upon a tree, them He rose out of the dust. In this way He took our sentencing, and released us from under the serpents belly, making a way, for all who answer His call to be born again, into the image of God, once and for all!
What if the curse in Genesis, dust to return to dust was the deal that Lucifer made in challenge against God, and against mankind, His plan of children through creation?
The law enforcing retribution, returning man's dust back to the ground, fate of law for the mankind God created in the event that he rebels?
Think about Lucifer’s claims, “I will ascend above God, I will be god!” Man fell by the same temptation he fell by, so if he didn't spare Satan, will he spare mankind who take Satan's image?
Is eternal life an inheritance for God's children? Or should God give what is Holy and Good to mankind who bear the image of His enemy, and who live by choice in Satan's image? Should Satans willing slaves tied to his will, his own dark seed with his disfunctional image, those who love his dark deeds who bow their will, those who by free will have taken his currupted image, his slave children.
Those made in the likeness of Satan and of beasts, who no longer resemble even mankind anymore, should they inherit God's Goodness with God's children?
Satan by his nature is a cheater, deciever. He is proud and arrogant, a murderer, he is darkness. By his nature he cheated with temptation of Eve, to assure to himself his gain a deadly win.
God knew all, and He already had His plan in place. So Satan was dumbfounded far behind the mysteries, wisdom, and knowledge of the Most High God.
Satan is cursed in every form of the flesh he takes. Every sin and darkness is his seed that he breeds. It’s currupt design, it is his appetite, the serpent eating dust all his days.
The fall of man from order of the Creator, from the first moment when God said “Let there be Light.” He brought light to a world sitting in complete darkness, formless, and void, now is returning in in the end back to how He found it, depravity, declining, degrading, falling into the gravity of depravity, into disorder, darkness, and chaos.
The final end from the fall of mankind. Where mankind went from freedom to slavery, from true knowledge and understanding to a serpent’s deceptions which he calls knowledge but isn't.
He puffs himself up, and man puffs up himself too, monkey see and monkey do!
God scoffs back and lets them, at the fools of mankind who ignore His gift of Redemption. Well then in the end the insatiable hunger of Satan and Sheol swallow them all whole!
Mankind has a long 6000 years, ready for God and His children to entet His 7th Day of rest. We all wrestled the good fight, most just gave in. But we all wrestled against ourselves every bit of our days. “Yielding thorns and thistles,” bringing forth good with much difficulty. Always the tale, always striving in weakness fighting from under not over.
In procrastination, blame shifting, addictions, laziness, foolishness, hate, violence, and lies we fight against what we don't have for wants, and what we achieve we don't want, everything we want we shouldn't have, everything good we should want to have, isn’t tasty enough, more sugar, more salt, heart failure stress, greed, gain, we never want good. Hmm why?
We think we are intelligent, but in the end, we are just fools.
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Matthew 11
28 “Come to Me, all who are weary and heavy-laden, and I will give you rest.
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Luke 9
23 And He was saying to them all, “If anyone wishes to come after Me, he must deny himself, and take up his cross daily and follow Me.
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Satan is twice cursed. He was judged already from his own fall. Jesus describes the fall as He “watched Satan fall like lightening.”
Satan is double cursed as the fallen angels, and the beast. Cursed with an insatiable appetite, God gave him over to his hearts desire to, to be serpent, on his belly to crawl, never satisfied, always starving, isn't that the way of flesh to?
Satan and his angels are already sealed in their judgement. An eternal death sentence, inside a burning black pit called Sheol, not made for man.
A place made for Satan, the fallen Bright Star, and his following angels, who chose to be devils over serving God and His precious children, mankind made in His image, upright and true.
Instead mankind is in service to Satan's bidding. In harsh servitude, tricked into slavery, slavery sold as freedom.
But in the end of it all, was it really that good?
We see in front of us today the very end of the works of all flesh, has it been gentle and pleasant?
Each of mankind must choose with difficulty working to look against a pull that is difficult to turn away from, its hold is firm and gripping, it's ropes tighten it’s hold.
Also given over to a beastly appetite, like father like children, mankind in the serpent’s defiled image, never satisfied, choking on their own flesh biting and devouring themselves and each other all the day long.
As God pulls back His grip, His safety net, His mercy hold. While Sheol's blackhole of gravity and depravity consume all of mankind marked 666, all those not marked for Salvation, those not sealed within His loves sacrafice. No written covenant of exchange to ransom them all, their debt of retribution they pay themselves, rejecting ransom by His gift paid in full.
His children of Promise He seals without measure with His Holy Spirit of Promise, renewing of our minds. We see with eyes, the damned do not see. God blinds them like the devil, because their hearts He sees!
The children of God, are eternal, their minds that big too, able to reason like their Father, in dimensions far beyond the closing shut minds of the trapped, the damned. Those whose minds have become just like minds of animals and beasts. Ruled only by desires, impulses, and instincts. Depravity!
The cursed of mankind hunched over with bent spines, just like their father, as if their ancestors are just monkeys. Just like their father a beast they become. Children? No, not even pets, just wild animals, prey and predator, dog eat dog, fighting till death, they are dogs tearing down to their bones.
Not as their counter, their opposite in mankind, thos in mankind who walk upright within God and God within them, breaking the grip, they remain free against the pull of destruction, of Sheol below. Those whose God is their Father, in His image made, whose foreheads bear His Seal! Marked for redemption, renewed everyday by His Spirit, with the minds set on God, He gives us the mind of our Lord Jesus Christ.
There are two marks and two images. A free choice from the beginning of the living.
Choose the mark of the Savior, whose blood placed on our foreheads like the doors of Israel in Egypt, His mark shows the reapers, we are sealed under His protection and we differ from the seal of those branded for judgement.
He is our Ark, hidden in Him, the rest are taken away by the flood of deceptions let loose in this day!
Final judgement is coming upon us, condeming the children of the beast along with their unreasoning animal minds, their cursed flesh bodies, and their eternally damned souls.
While Saving God’s children making us brand new creations, Born Again in His likeness, as He renews our minds, bodies, and our eternal souls.
This can be glimpsed in Genesis Chapter 5, where we have the genealogy of Adam through Noah. This is one of those chapters which we often tend to skim over quickly as we pass through Genesis it's simply a genealogy from Adam to Noah.
But God always rewards the diligent student. Let's examine this chapter more closely.
In our Bible, we read the Hebrew names. What do these names mean in English?
A Study of Original Roots
The meaning of proper names can be a difficult pursuit since a direct translation is often not readily available. Even a conventional Hebrew lexicon can prove disappointing. A study of the original roots, however, can yield some fascinating insights.
(A caveat: many study aids, such as a conventional lexicon, can prove rather superficial when dealing with proper nouns. Furthermore, views concerning the meanings of original roots are not free of controversy and variant readings.)
Let's take an example.
The Flood Judgment
Methuselah comes from muth, a root that means "death";1 and from shalach, which means to bring, or to send forth. The name Methuselah means, "his death shall bring".2
Methuselah's father was given a prophecy of the coming Great Flood, and was apparently told that as long as his son was alive, the judgment of the flood would be withheld; but as soon as he died, the flood would be brought or sent forth.
(Can you imagine raising a kid like that? Every time the boy caught a cold, the entire neighborhood must have panicked!)
And, indeed, the year that Methuselah died, the flood came.3
It is interesting that Methuselah's life, in effect, was a symbol of God's mercy in forestalling the coming judgment of the flood.
Therefore, it is fitting that his lifetime is the oldest in the Bible, speaking of the extensiveness of God's mercy.
The Other Names
If there is such significance in Methuselah's name, let's examine the other names to see what may lie behind them.
Adam's name means man. As the first man, that seems straight forward enough.
Seth
Adam's son was named Seth, which means appointed. Eve said, "For God hath appointed me another seed instead of Abel, whom Cain slew."4
Enosh
Seth's son was called Enosh, which means mortal, frail, or miserable. It is from the root anash, to be incurable, used of a wound, grief, woe, sickness, or wickedness.
It was in the days of Enosh that men began to defile the name of the Living God.5
Kenan
Enosh's son was named Kenan, which can mean sorrow, dirge, or elegy. (The precise denotation is somewhat elusive; some study aids unfortunately presume that Kenan is synonymous with Cainan.)
Balaam, looking down from the heights of Moab, uses a pun upon the name of the Kenites when he prophesies their destruction.6
We have no real idea as to why these names were chosen for their children. Often they may have referred to circumstances at birth, and so on.
Mahalalel
Kenan's son was Mahalalel, from Mahalal which means blessed or praise; and El, the name for God. Thus, Mahalalel means the Blessed God. Often Hebrew names include El, the name of God, as Dan-i-el, "God is my Judge", etc.
Jared
Mahalalel's son was named Jared, from the verb yaradh, meaning shall come down.7
Enoch
Jared's son was named Enoch, which means teaching, or commencement. He was the first of four generations of preachers. In fact, the earliest recorded prophecy was by Enoch, which amazingly enough deals with the Second Coming of Christ (although it is quoted in the Book of Jude in the New Testament):
Enoch also, the seventh from Adam, prophesied of these, saying, "Behold, the Lord cometh with ten thousands of his saints,
To execute judgment upon all, and to convince all that are ungodly among them of all their ungodly deeds which they have ungodly committed, and of all their hard speeches which ungodly sinners have spoken against."
Jude 14, 15
Methuselah
Enoch was the father of Methuselah, who we have already mentioned. Enoch walked with God after he begat Methuselah.8 Apparently, Enoch received the prophecy of the Great Flood, and was told that as long as his son was alive, the judgment of the flood would be withheld. The year that Methuselah died, the flood came.
Enoch, of course, never died: he was translated 9 (or, if you'll excuse the expression, raptured ). That's how Methuselah can be the oldest man in the Bible, yet he died before his father!
Lamech
Methuselah's son was named Lamech, a root still evident today in our own English word, lament or lamentation. Lamech suggests despairing.
(This name is also linked to the Lamech in Cain's line who inadvertently killed his son Tubal-Cain in a hunting incident.10)
Noah
Lamech, of course, is the father of Noah, which is derived from nacham, to bring relief or comfort, as Lamech himself explains in Genesis 5:29.
The Composite List
Now let's put it all together:
Hebrew English
Adam - Man
Seth - Appointed
Enosh - Mortal
Kenan - Sorrow;
Mahalalel - The Blessed God
Jared - Shall come down
Enoch - Teaching
Methuselah - His death shall bring
Lamech - The Despairing
Noah - Rest, or comfort
That's rather remarkable:
Man (is) appointed mortal sorrow; (but) the Blessed God shall come down teaching (that) His death shall bring (the) despairing rest.
Here's the Gospel hidden within a genealogy in Genesis!
(You will never convince me that a group of Jewish rabbis conspired to hide the Christian Gospel right here in a genealogy within their venerated Torah!)
"You got a set to post a question about Muslims belief in God?"
Actually, the author did not specify which God, so he/she has implicitly included the Muslim God as well as the Christian God (which, by the way, are mythologically equivalent)
You're kinda a newbie here, so even though your post is extremely insulting to real Christians (not to mention Muslims), I'll say upfront my answer may seem harsh though it is only truthful. You can continue talking stupid and insulting Christians and Muslims as most of them do not whine to authority figures about being harassed by people with hateful opposing views. You might want to whine after you read this. You won't be the first. Why atheists expect that they should be allowed to be rude and nasty and never answered firmly can only be explained by things like bad parenting.
The author did refer specifically to God. There can be only one God who created all things, and some of those things can be called gods but only God is God.
God in Islam is Allah, it is not God though they call it God. It is the moon god, Allah, of ancient tribal Arabia adopted by Mohammed in his travels as a desert pirate robbing caravans and building his band of thieves, rapists, and murderers before they attacked and conquered Mecca from which Mohammed had earlier been ran out of, using their god, Allah, calling it God whose name is Allah, as a litmus test by which to force subservience of subjugated people.
The only mythological equivalence coming out of you is pretending your mouth is equal to intelligence when you talk about things you do not know or understand. Now you might want to start whining.
What on Earth are you talking about? I'm not a Democrat, and even if I were, your argument makes absolutely no sense.
You are basically saying this: "You are a Democrat. Democrats attack religion. Democrats do not attack Islam because of political correctness."
1. Most Democrats are Christians and fully support Christianity. Christian churches have a large role in Democratic congress. Atheists are more likely to be independent.
2. Just because somebody disagrees with you doesn't mean they are democrat. I know you have a pretty narrow view of the world, but there are people in the world who are neither Democrat nor Republican.
3. Political correctness refers to using softened terminology to say something. Democrats aren't being "politically correct" by having more liberal foreign policy views, that term has absolutely no place in your argument.
It would have made just as much sense to say "that is not a Time-Independent Solution to Schrodinger's Equation in 1-D given a constant vector potential now is it". Actually, it would have made more sense because Quantum Mechanics makes more sense than you.
When they say Islam is a Religion of Peace they mean the same way other religions are a religion of peace. That's still false because Christians killed Jews for humdreds of years etc. But religion brought peace sometimes but it also brought KKK and 9/11. There are no religions of peace IMO. Only peaceful people that follow them.
This is cool. Messages from God in name translations in the Bible genealogies. When you translate each name and put them together in their order given they each have a message.
It's unusual and not likely intentional by Jewish Rabbis to weave this into their scriptures, because they didn't view the full intent of Jesus' mission and purpose. Yet in the Old Testament His intent was clear, even hidden within these lengthly genealogies we used to breeze over. But now know every letter and space has a purpose. If you only knew!
Now that God is unsealing the book more than in previous times, especially in these last days, more and more is being seen. As churches go dark, the faithful shine bright!
God gives revelation and understanding to those who are His own children! Jesus called it the children's bread.
So while there is a famine for His Word, as churches fall, and there is a drought were His Holy Spirit is not raining in the congregations, as darkness grips the world and marks them for condemnation with the image and mark of the beast, His children will in a twinkling shine bright as the sun, and as He reveals Himself like never before, many will see Him as He is, and turn to Him.
