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Debate Score:58
Arguments:55
Total Votes:66
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Is the Sun the Real God of Life?

It burns in the sky and enables all life on earth. You can see it and feel it, so we dont have to argue endlessly about its existance. It doesn't meddle in our buisness or try to impose a morality, and it requires no groveling or self-hatred in return for salvation, all we have to do is enjoy the fact that it exists. I think the Sun-worshipers were onto something.

Yes

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Side Score: 35
2 points

It is also going to one day destroy all life, in a great apocalypse. It must be the great loving God we all worship!

| Side: Yes
1 point

Not if a Super Nova or Asteroid takes us first. :D

Isn't it wonderful, God's fail Creations?

| Side: Yes

Isn't the argument from Good Design just so convincing? :D

| Side: Yes

it could be a fail if it was against his will wouldn't you think?

| Side: Yes

When the sun destroys all life it doesn't plan on keeping the humans it doesn't like to torture for all eternity, or, if that is the plan, the sun hasn't made its intentions very clear. Either way, I'll take instant destruction over eternal suffering.

| Side: Yes
1 point

Yes, the sun is what is keeping us alive. Without it we would die. No Jesus/God to help you there buddy. No sun=Death. Sun=Life. If you got past the 9th Grade, you would realize that the sun is the fuel that keeps ecosystems alive. It produces energy, fuels the growth of our our food, and is the basis of life on the Earth. If you remove the sun, we would be 'screwed' not only would the lack of a heat source freeze you to death within minutes. This isn't a religious debate. This is Scientific. Without the sun, there would be no life.

| Side: Yes
Mujahid(4) Disputed
1 point

all of what you say is true but the sun is not a god if he is thanwho created the sun than if the sun is a god.

| Side: No
1 point

Makes plants grow. Plants make other things grow. Gives energy good times yes. It'll burn us all away some day, but I'll be dead long before that.

| Side: Yes
1 point

Three things cannot be long hidden: the sun, the moon, and the truth.

Buddhist Proverbs

| Side: Yes
1 point

I wouldnt say he is a God , but I would say it is a form/type of God because to me , God is all living things . And if that one living thing dies , then there must be some sence into that

| Side: Yes
Mujahid(4) Disputed
1 point

Are you saying that God dies? if so than He does not as you said He is the all Living.

| Side: No
1 point

no it not science proves that the sun is a old star witch was created by a bang of an older star.god and his son.the sun could not have formed a human nor animal or plant

| Side: No
1 point

First we need to define what "God of Life" means. I'll assume, based on the definition of 'god', it means:

God of Life = Supreme being who created life, specifically humans in the Universe.

Is the sun a supreme being? For that to be true it would have to be intelligent, aka capable of thought. The sun is explained through a vast amount of scientific evidence as operating based entirely on the processes of gravity, nuclear fusion, fluid dynamics, etc.. . Although these processes can be complex they don't lead to any sort of intelligence, ie: the sun does not "think."

If the sun does not think, it is clearly not intelligent and therefore cannot be a "being."

Evidence for the sun being alive or for the sun being responsible for life on Earth is moot since it clearly cannot fit the definition of a supreme "being" and hence, cannot be a god.

| Side: No
ChadOnSunday(1856) Clarified
1 point

Part of my point is the slightly inappropriate title, "God of Life." In asking if the sun is the real god of life, i invite people to compare the sun to the other gods of life that religions have offered up.

There is as much evidence supporting that the sun is a supreme being who created life, can think, and is intelligent as there is for any other god of life, which is to say none. But unlike other gods of life the sun does enable life on earth, and this is a fact, one fact more than any religious theory has.

Everyone debates god in the context of his wisdom or his creation or his intelligence or his status as god, but all of this is conjecture to be taken on faith. If you have to take those thing on faith and apply them to something, why not pick the ready made god of life in the sky instead of a god whose very existence is questionable?

| Side: Yes
pszNicx(7) Clarified
2 points

I do understand what you're going for. Poetically, it could be considered true as could be the case with many of the other "god myths" out there. In the same sense one could call the Big Bang god too, as it was the creation process that lead to everything there is.

Poetry and myth make for wonderful stories, no doubt, and they explain things in a way that lets us grasp them easily. Thinking of the sun as a "God of Life" can be inspiring, that is, until that vague idea gets turned into a real religion and starts interfering with society, human rights, and scientific understanding.

| Side: Yes
1 point

So, a star, that is like any other star, is the God of all creation? A hot ball of gas...

Nope, science proves.

| Side: No
ChuckHades(3194) Disputed
1 point

That's not what the debate is getting at. It's saying (I think) that if anything could be called "God", then it's the sun, because we would not be here without it.

| Side: Yes
DevinSeay(927) Clarified
1 point

Sorry, misread. My fault. I thought this guy was refering to the Sun BEING a God.

| Side: Yes

You thought right.

Everyone seems to be looking for the meaning of life up their own rectum. Wishful thinking and dogma have got us so wrapped up in god, creation, angles, magic, hellfire, and the like I think we're overlooking the real "miracles," like photosynthesis, that allow us to live on this planet every day. And if tribute is owed to anything, why not the sun? Seems more legit than some invisible, new-age Zeus wannabe.

| Side: Yes
1 point

no,i think this is not true because god gives us knowledge to go in true and right way it gives energy internally to do some things in opposite situation .it has the power providing source .but fail to see ,it could only feel as in soul.it is the provider of energy without any restriction as continuously,the god has no any definite shape and size but sun has all the characteristics which are give above there for .i can definitely that sun is the not real God of life

| Side: No
1 point

For us to believe that the Sun is a god we would have to believe that molecules are gods as well. Even the Sun depends on them. They are the building blocks of existence and at the same time they are the evidence of Intelligent Design. Molecules all move and bounce around and if they stop moving everything in existence deteriorates. They move off of an unknown and untraceable power source. The real God would have to be everywhere at one time to keep them going and if God was to make a mistake we would all accidentally fall apart. Even though the very existence of the Sun screams, "There's a God!" I doubt that it is the Sun that is God even though I believe God rules over the Sun

Supporting Evidence: Is God real (www.masterscience.webs.com)
| Side: No
ChuckHades(3194) Disputed
1 point

For us to believe that the Sun is a god we would have to believe that molecules are gods as well.

Try telling that to Aztecs, Egyptians, Polynesians, etc.

They are the building blocks of existence

You mean atoms?

and at the same time they are the evidence of Intelligent Design.

... I don't see it.

Molecules all move and bounce around and if they stop moving everything in existence deteriorates.

Well, everything gets kinda cold. Depends whether or not that's your cup o' tea.

They move off of an unknown and untraceable power source.

Oh... that's... odd. Never heard of energy then?

The real God would have to be everywhere at one time to keep them going

Yea, you've never heard of energy.

Even though the very existence of the Sun screams, "There's a God!"

To me it screams "There is gravity, heat energy, hydrogen, helium and nuclear fusion!".

| Side: Yes
1 point

God is dependent on belief to exist. If belief fails, so does he. So in that sense, god depends on us to survive (and he needs us a lot more than we need him). Because our collective stupidity and will to believe makes up god, does that make us god?

| Side: Yes
1 point

You know I believe you have just created a pagan religion, congratulations!

| Side: No
1 point

In theory, the sun is mainly a ball of hot gas; a star, no different (in essence) then the rest of the stars in the night sky.

If this is also the way you describe "real god," then perhaps the sun can be called that.

I will continue to just call it "the sun."

| Side: No
1 point

There is no God that created this world.

However, I would give a slight edge to the Sun God.

You can actually see and observe it :D

| Side: No
1 point

No the Sun is not the real god of Life , there is only one God.

| Side: No
1 point

humans cannot live with just the sun, try to sunbathe every single day in the 100 degree desert without bringing water and not breathing air, im sure your'e gonna be dried human. we all know those mexicans who tried to cross the border died of dehydration due to lack of water. If the so called sun is a life giver, how come they died? i bet all of you during summer, you cannot live without airconditioner. if sun is a lifegiver, turn off that ac during summer months. im glad there is a sun, without the sun i wont be able to dry my laundry, my garden loves the sun too, without the sun there will be no rain, because heat is needed to evaporate water and makes some cumulus cloud then becomes rain. Sun is just part of the basic necessity in order to survive. humans needed shelter, food, heat, air and water. without it, were practically dead. so stop this nonsense, sun is not god. ok call it god if thats what you like, but not the Almighty God, the creator of heaven and earth. i bet you your sun god will not be able to make snow, only the Almighty God can make that. Peace out!

| Side: No
1 point

This is a really great question. While we would not survive without the sun...at least not as we know it, I don't think the sun is our savior. While I am Christian and Catholic, I believe our creator created the sun to warm our planet. It is really hard to believe that God would not create all of the things we needed to survive.

Look at it this way...you have a pet, are you not God to your pet?

| Side: No
0 points

No the Sun God is not the real God of life. Jesus Christ is the Real God of Life.

| Side: No
1 point

Even if Christianity is correct and Jesus and god are real, they would be the demi-god and god of death, not life. All the rewards you reap from your faith you reap in death, and the only time you will ever see a god of death is in death. Life is a punishment, a sentence to be served when it comes to monotheistic dogma. From the Christian perspective life is for groveling, servitude, and despising the human condition, and death is where all the good stuff is.

| Side: Yes
Srom(11582) Disputed
0 points

Even if Christianity is correct and Jesus and God are real

They are real. There is no if. There IS Jesus and God.

| Side: No
Dremorius(849) Clarified
1 point

We are not talking about the Sun God you dunce.

- And we are not making baseless claims about Jesus either.

I suggest you down-vote your own argument for being such a bosh' tet.

Shame on you. :D

| Side: Yes
Srom(11582) Disputed
1 point

The debate says that Is the Sun the Real God of Life so it technically is the Sun God and I don't believe that the Sun is the God of life.

| Side: Yes


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