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it is it is not
Debate Score:14
Arguments:11
Total Votes:15
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Is the left the new Red Scare?

it is

Side Score: 4
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it is not

Side Score: 10
1 point

Hello bront:

DUDE!

If you wanna be afraid of the approaching Red Menace, can I be afraid of white supremacist Trump??

One of those is a real fear.. The other is poppycock..

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Side: it is
4 points

If you wanna be afraid of the approaching Red Menace, can I be afraid of white supremacist Trump??

1)ANTIFA admits to being Communists. Bernie admits to being a Socialist.

2)What kind of "white supremacist" allows the 800,000 dreamers to stay when he could have said "adios amigos", and has black CEO's running his companies... He's not very good at this mythological white supremacy thing apparently.

Side: it is not
outlaw60(8861) Clarified
1 point

Where are all the White Supremacists that all of a sudden have emerged out of thin air ? And where did they come from some MSM narrative that was yesterday's news ?

Side: it is
1 point

Hopefully, there will be fewer of those RED STATES to scare U.S. by the next election. Steve Bannon and his supporters gave the people of Charlottesville the scare they needed to see where the REAL enemy is, and the other red states will also realize that! Fascism has always been a scourge from the right no matter what color it is painted!

There ARE a few "communists" in this country, as in all others. They are the ones AGAINST a democratic form of government. Let's see .... which side calls for the taking over of our democratic ways, of "changing America", of anti-government "militias" that just LOVE Steve Bannon and his ilk! Yep! There IS a RED scare ... time to vote BLUE!

Side: it is
outlaw60(8861) Clarified
2 points

Where are those scary red states that vote going to go AL ? Voting is a Right so the Progressives like to say.

Side: it is
1 point

There is a faction of the American political left that are communists. They no longer admit to their communist beliefs, but now hide among the ranks of a faction called Progressives. Their aim is the undoing of democracy. Their tactic is civil unrest, promoting violence with the aim of bringing about chaos. They are seen at every major incident involving political violence and social unrest. They are not the "red scare", they are the enemy.

Side: it is not
Quantumhead(850) Disputed
1 point

They no longer admit to their communist beliefs

Do you blame them, given that Communists have been persecuted in America in much the same way that they were persecuted in Nazi Germany? The American government actively sought out people in civilian life with Communist beliefs and destroyed them. Abroad, in places like El Salvador and Guatemala, the American government sponsored regimes which sent military death squads out to mass murder Communists.

Side: it is
marcusmoon(248) Disputed
2 points

Do you blame them, given that Communists have been persecuted in America in much the same way that they were persecuted in Nazi Germany? The American government actively sought out people in civilian life with Communist beliefs and destroyed them.

We have no problem with denunciation of National Socialism because the single time it was implemented it was so incredibly horrible that people stopped naming their sons Adolf. No nation ever again attempted to institute Nazism, though I am confident that the US would have sponsored violent projects and programs to ensure every attempt failed.

On the other hand, communism has never been as vilified as Nazism, even during the McCarthy Era, despite the fact that every communist regime has exhibited every hallmark of vicious oppression.

-- Josef Stalin was even more murderous and brutally oppressive than Hitler, a fact which boggles the mind. Stalin's successors and the system they perpetuated were so brutal and oppressive that Siberia is better known for gulags than for its vast, largely unspoiled natural landscape.

-- Mao Tse Tung was at least as murderous and brutally oppressive as Hitler, with the added attempt to completely suppress 5000 years worth of Chinese culture.

-- Pol Pot enforced his communist vision by murdering so many people that his henchmen had to suffocate the victims with plastic bags because they simply did not have enough bullets.

-- Ceausescu's murderousness, brutally, and oppression were simply a Romania-sized version of Hitler's management style.

-- Fidel Castro's oppression of his people was so bad and so consistent that for decades his people piled onto rafts and tried to row for 90 miles though shark infested waters in an attempt to escape.

There is no example of a communist state that did not institute oppression, brutality, and murder as standard governmental practices. In fact, every communist government has been far more successful at instituting repressive policies than economic policies.

Even so, there are people who insist that communism would work "if it were just done the right way." That is at least as unsupported by the evidence as people insisting that National Socialism would be a good thing "if it were just done the right way."

Side: it is not
2 points

Every Muslim nation on Earth, with no exception, was gained by conquest, territorial expansion, brutal force, and by persecution of minorities that is beyond the pale. And their stretch of Muslim controlled territory makes Europe look small comparatively on the map. But that doesn't bother you. Why? Because you have no common sense and are a regressive ideologue.

http://www.islam101.com/images/MuslimDistributionmap.jpg

Side: it is not
1 point

Part of me wanted to vote yes it is simply because by political science definition it's the left side of the spectrum where communism falls.

And yet I didn't.

Because here's the irony. "Red scare" is most often in the context of a foreign communist nation getting influence here. Russia, China, Cuba, etc. The recent trail of bread crumbs seems to be connecting the Republicans and Trump to the red scare far more than the Democrats or any homegrown grass roots activists. It is actually far more accurate to say the Trump administration is the new red scare.

Side: it is not
outlaw60(8861) Clarified
1 point

The previous administration said Russia was not a problem and the leader of the previous administration went to Cuba and the Left did a golf clap. So you have come to the conclusion now that Russia and Cuba are Communist ?

Side: it is