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This response to the debate is highly accurate, for we do not know for certain if aliens exist but we also do not know for certain that aliens don't exist.
The Universe is wide and technically speaking an alien is an unknown living thing and the possibility of mutated humans may be true technically classifying them as aliens
I believe that there is almost certainly life elsewhere in the universe, though I daresay contact with said life appears rather unlikely, at least at this point.
"Aliens do not exist" is less sensible a viewpoint than "Gods do not exist."
The two claims are fundamentally different.
On the alien side of things, we lack any conclusive evidence of life elsewhere in the universe. That's more or less it; belief in aliens doesn't necessarily mean belief that there are intelligent aliens close enough to earth to establish contact with. The anti-alien claims "There is no evidence for aliens, therefore non exist." We have an absence of evidence, but not evidence of absence.
On the god side of things, however, it goes a bit beyond a simple lack of evidence. One of the most basic qualities attributed to the concept of a god is interference with earth; this ranges from said interference only involving the creation of the earth (the great clockmaker) on one end of the spectrum, to regular and frequent direct interference in the live of humans by the alleged god or gods on the other. The entity can't simply exist somewhere in the universe, but must be able to interact with the earth in some way. The specifics of this claim allow us to make observations and experimentations about portions of the various claims; and therein lies the rub. Under the premise of naturalism, reasonably accurate predictions are made quite frequently- not so much for those operating under the premise of theistic creationism.
We can test some of those scenarios where people claim to have been visited by actual aliens. We can further test some of those scenarios where people claim the existence of a god or gods. None of these tests result in accurate predictions based on the premise that the alien encounter was real, or the act of god was real. The difference is that the very concept of a god or gods fundamentally entails involvement with the earth on some level, meaning that we can reasonably expect to find evidence of such here, on earth. In that respect, while hardly conclusive, an absence of evidence is effectively somewhat an evidence of absence. The very concept of alien life does not necessarily entail any involvement or evidence on earth whatsoever; we can freely disprove most claims of alien encounters, but aliens need not come anywhere near earth- unlike gods.
Well this sort of debate has been posted before,for all participants it's not really a matter of winning the contest of whether it exists or not but rather accumulating the points-Aliens really are non-existent if people inculcate the view of God's non-existence.Aliens are imaginary terms only meant for alluring toddlers
Aliens do not exist. I can give you two views on this, the Christian way and the idea of how the earth was created by the Big Bang.
Christian- In Genesis in the bible it says that God created humans and animals, no where in the bible did he mention that he created aliens, so therefore how could aliens exist?
Big Bang- since our universe (The Milky Way) was created by a big explosion of Anti matter and matter annihilating each other, we know that we only have our Sun, Moon, Earth, Mars, Venus, Uranus, Neptune, Pluto (technically a dwarf planet), Jupiter, Saturn, and Mercury. We also know that Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus, and Neptune are big balls of gas, also known as Gas Giants. So if they are made purely of gas how could any living creature be able to survive on the planet? We also know that Mars does have water and Methane, but that does not make it necessarily livable, in fact the Mars Rover has scouted the whole planet of Mars and found no trace of any life source. So what is there to prove that aliens exist?
One of the reasons people have imagined the idea of aliens existing is because humans, if they had sex and developed in the uterus on Mars, was born there, and grew up there would have a similar body shape as an alien, they would still have the facial and skin features of a human but their bone structure would be changed as they would have to adapt to new environments.
In all honesty this debate could be directed either way, this debate is not only evidence related but also opinion related.
Your post is predicated on the assumption that alien life would have to exist within our solar system which, statistically, doesn't work. Considering there are billions upon billions of solar systems out there, the odds of every single one of them being devoid of life seems highly unlikely.
Well do we even know about the other solar systems? If we did know about them then maybe I could see the possibility of aliens existing, but as many people on the opposite side of this debate are not going by fact, but by opinion, then how true would their debates be? Yet here I am debating with facts from my knowledge. We as a world can not acurately assume that there is aliens somewhere in the universe. Not if we know next to nothing about them.
"[I]f our solar system is not unusual, then there are so many planets in the universe that, for example, they outnumber the sum of all sounds and words ever uttered by every human who has ever lived. To declare that Earth must be the only planet with life in the universe would be inexcusably bigheaded of us."
That is by world renowned scientist Neil deGrasse Tyson.
"I believe alien life is quite common in the universe, although intelligent life is less so. Some say it has yet to appear on planet Earth."
Stephen Hawking
"To my mathematical brain, the numbers alone make thinking about aliens perfectly rational. The real challenge is to work out what aliens might actually be like."
Stephen Hawking
I figured I'd let some of the leading experts in Astrophysics and Astronomy do the talking for me.
But where is your proof? Sure we have millions of universes, if not billions, but how can we be sure if we have no proof? Yes they have found planets with living conditions millions of miles away the same as Earth's conditions, but if they have not found any source of living creature yet then how can we be sure of this? Where is the proof? If aliens existed wouldn't they have found a way to contact us by now?
My proof is that we exist. The fact that life exists, and in such varying forms, on a planet the likes of which has been observed in other parts of the universe makes it all but impossible for life to not exist elsewhere in the universe. Just because we have not found definitive proof (i.e. actual organisms and biological matter) does not mean that the universe lacks it elsewhere. Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.
If aliens existed wouldn't they have found a way to contact us by now?
Based on what? Alien life could exist so far out of our reach (or theirs) that in effect we would not exist to each other. Alien life could have progressed along a different technological path so as to render their methods of communication (or ours) ineffective.
The assumption that alien life does not exist elsewhere in the universe is, to me, supremely arrogant, as it requires the assumption that all of the existent universe, a (seemingly) infinite expanse of billions upon billions of stars and planets, were all created (be it divinely or otherwise) for one singular planet orbiting one singular star in one singular galaxy.
EXACTLY!!!!!!!I agree with you completely there are billions of solar systems out there and alien life technically doesn't have to be the typical one in movies and such i could be a type of bacteria non existent on earth and to our knowledge
Okay hold on, let me explain something. I believe in the possibility of there being bacterial organisms, which I didn't think would be classified as alien life, so if that is what you mean by alien life then I believe in aliens. I do not believe that a dominant species of aliens exists on any planet whatsoever. So if you can understand where I stand then maybe we actually are both believing in the same thing unless you believe in a dominant species of alien life exists.
Okay hold on, let me explain something. I believe in the possibility of there being bacterial organisms, which I didn't think would be classified as alien life, so if that is what you mean by alien life then I believe in aliens.
A little odd, since life that is alien would be alien life.
. I do not believe that a dominant species of aliens exists on any planet whatsoever.
Why? If life evolved past bacteria here, why not anywhere else?
So if you can understand where I stand then maybe we actually are both believing in the same thing unless you believe in a dominant species of alien life exists.
The fact that life evolved past bacterium on this planet is, to me, evidence that similar events have transpired elsewhere.
A little odd, since life that is alien would be alien life.
To me that is not what I classified alien life, yes I know that alien means that it's foreign, but I can believe that there is plant life on other planets but not actual human like creatures. Nature may exist on other planets but I personally do not believe that dominant species can exist. Your proof isn't necessarily proof, it's more of a theory than anything else.
Why? If life evolved past bacteria here, why not anywhere else?
I personally don't believe that our life here on earth evolved, because how can something come from nothing? It just simply can't work like that.
The fact that life evolved past bacterium on this planet is, to me, evidence that similar events have transpired elsewhere.
Once again how can something come from nothing if we speak evolution here?
So do you not consider bacteria in general to be life? Or plants?
And if there are multiple species on a planet, whatever species dominates is the "dominant" species, so I don't understand what you are saying about not believing another dominant species can exist.
Your proof isn't necessarily proof, it's more of a theory than anything else.
Astrophysicists and Astronomers tend to consider it to be proof.
I personally don't believe that our life here on earth evolved, because how can something come from nothing? It just simply can't work like that.
That is dishonest. Nobody claims that something came from nothing. If you are going to discuss an issue, discuss it honestly or not at all. Evolution is a theory pertaining to the way life has developed, it is not a theory pertaining to the origin of life itself.
As for the "something from nothing" concept, that applies to god as well, a fact never addressed by Creationists. Neither side has an answer from where "existence" came from (note: Saying "God always existed" is not an answer, just as saying "life always existed" would not be an answer).
I personally don't believe that our life here on earth evolved, because how can something come from nothing? It just simply can't work like that.
Again, nobody said it did work like that.
Once again how can something come from nothing if we speak evolution here?
3rd time yada yada yada.
But let's ignore that and go to a greater point: So you believe that God created all of existence so that he could inhabit one world out of essentially trillions (if not quadrillions)? Why? What was the point in creating literally everything else in existence?