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Much criticism of Jews is just Jews are unfairly criticized
Debate Score:40
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Is there any justification for antisemitism?

 

 I've noticed that any criticism of Israel or the Jewish people is deemed "antisemitism" and is politically incorrect. Do you feel there is any justification for some people's negative view of the Jewish people?

Much criticism of Jews is just

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Jews are unfairly criticized

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Side: Much criticism of Jews is just
stmac10(59) Disputed
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How dare who Enlightened1? Is posting that video your rebuttal? There's nothing more pathetic that an internet-tough guy.

Side: Jews are unfairly criticized
1 point

Instead of posting crap videos and saying 'Down with juuuuuiiice'...why don't you respond to my post and answer the questions? ...Out of your depth douchebag?

Side: Much criticism of Jews is just
1 point

That's convenient...you say your not anti-semitic, but your deleted post said "down with juuuuiiice!" - what's that all about?

Side: Much criticism of Jews is just
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You can justify anything to yourself so long as you decide it makes sense... to you. =/

Side: Much criticism of Jews is just
stmac10(59) Disputed
1 point

By the same thinking, I can justify to myself that I am the greatest footballer that ever lived...but I'm not. Just because you attempt to justify something and delude yourself into believing your assertion, doesn't mean it's accepted or even acknowledged by society at large.

Side: Jews are unfairly criticized
ryuukyuzo(641) Disputed
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Your analogy fails. There's a difference between justifying a position/act and lying to yourself about your potential. They aren't analogous at all.

Also, acceptance from society is not a qualification for personal justification.

Side: Much criticism of Jews is just
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stmac10(59) Disputed
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You are an idiot. Nobody is beyond reproach, and criticism of Jewish people or Judaism can not be 'labelled' antisemitism. 'Antisemitism' is the prejudice, discrimination and hostility toward Jews; just as 'racism' is prejudice, discrimination and hostility toward people of different race. Every religious group are supremacists, their beliefs are all mutually exclusive. How can you say that they are the 'most successful ethnic group on the planet'...define 'success', what kind of supporting evidence do you have for a ridiculous statement like that. How many Jewish presidents have there been? At least 23 out of the 43 US presidents have been of Scottish descent, is that a relevant barometer of power and success?

'Milking the exaggerated and tired old story of the holocaust' - you are a tool, a huge generalisation about a mass genocide that happened less than 70 years ago. People who are still alive lost their entire families in the holocaust. 2 out of every 3 Jews in Europe were killed in the holocaust...it's easy for you to be flippant about it but imagine it was people from your ethnic group and your area that were persecuted.

Just because a specific ethnic group has exemplified a high level of financial success does that instantly mean that they aren't persecuted in any way? Does that somehow justify your antisemitism? Does it make it okay to gather them all up, starve them and then gas them all to death? Set aside your idiotic prejudices for a minute and think about it.

Despite so fervently arguing that Jews should be persecuted...you fail to state exactly what they have done to upset you? Yes they are religious and all religions think they are right...I don't hear you making comment on Catholics or Scientologists...Jews have a higher percentage of billionaires but I don't hear you saying we should lynch Bill Gates or Warren Buffet...?

Side: Jews are unfairly criticized
Awen27(541) Disputed
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Yes, it is such a tired old story. Genocide: Waa waa waa.

Tell me how, when, and where the holocaust has been exaggerated.

Hey, by the way, when you make a statement like, "The Jews are..." it's a generalization. I'm sure that some Jews see themselves as better than others because of being "the chosen people" but I have never met one with that type of attitude. Keep in mind, too, that not all Jews are fundamentalists, and that even those who are do not necessarily see the "chosen people" concept the same way you're inferring.

Side: Jews are unfairly criticized
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Is that all you have to offer this debate, sarcasm? I'll leave you to do your own research on the Holocaust story, hopefully you will entertain different points of view on the subject. A great many people feel the claims are exaggerated.

I know that I am generalizing when I say "Jews are..."

So should everyone else. Why the hell would you assume that I think every individual in an entire group is the same way, there are always exceptions to the rule, duh. Why even point that out? Thanks, but I don't need your politically correct advice on how to express myself. If a thousand Chinese jets are bombing your city do you exclaim "SOME of the Chinese are bombing the shit out of SOME of us!"? No, of course you wouldn't. You would say, "The Chinese are bombing the shit out of us!"

Side: Much criticism of Jews is just
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Sorry this posted twice(with some small changes). I was having computer issues. Feel free to delete this one.

Side: Jews are unfairly criticized
Awen27(541) Disputed
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Yes, it is such a tired old story. Genocide: Waa waa waa. (Sarcasm, just in case that's not ridiculously obvious)

Tell me how, when, and where the holocaust has been exaggerated.

Hey, by the way, when you make a statement like, "The Jews are..." it's a generalization. I'm sure that some Jews see themselves as better than others because of being "the chosen people" but I have never met one with that type of attitude. Keep in mind, too, that not all Jews are fundamentalists, and that even those who are do not necessarily see the "chosen people" concept the same way you're implying.

Side: Jews are unfairly criticized
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Why be negative of Jews?!. What have they done to upset anyone, apart from the Middle East, like America has. The media has done a hell of alot to brainwash people of Jews. I see Jews as people who want to get on with life, get a job, have a family and practice Judaism.

Side: Jews are unfairly criticized
Ironwrench(7) Disputed
3 points

Maybe this stems from the fact that everyone outside America thinks the US government is little more than Israel's military proxy in the Middle East. You need to do a bit of historical research. Jews have been driven out of every culture they ever infected. England drove them out, but they paid Cromwell to bring them back. The Brits never forgave Cromwell for what he did; they dug up his corpse, drew and quartered it and then dragged the pieces through the streets. Pissed? You bet! For further information, you might want to ask a Palestinian just how inoffensive Jews are towards a host culture. http://electronicintifada.net/v2/article10261.shtml

Side: Just ask the people who live with them

If you tell the people on this site that the Jews were banished from every culture they ever infected, they will just say that the whole world is bigoted and the Jews are just victims of prejudice. They'll sooner demonize the entire global population than they would a small group.They will go to the most ridiculous lengths to defend Political Correctness which has it's roots in Cultural Marxism.

Side: Much criticism of Jews is just
mosc(71) Disputed
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Ironwrench, you as a sub human inferior race need to go straight to Dresden and have fire bombs consume you your family your friends your neighbors and all sub human inferior races scum like yourself.

Side: Jews are unfairly criticized