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Is there anything wrong with polygamy?
Polygamy most people apose it I want to know whether you think it's a good or bad thing and what you see iis wrong with it. Just your opinions basically :)
Yes! Polygamy creates a society where there are many men who are left unwed, this leads to social unrest and a more aggressive population. With that said, I don't think there is grounds for them to make it illegal. Tough issue.
Well when considering sex for reproductive reasons women tend not to take multiple Husbands (i.e. because that would be impossible). Women wouldn't choose males that are below average, so below average males wouldn't have too much of a chance of getting children. This would obviously increase disorder unless we somehow teach below average males to be contented with not getting children (this however appears to be a rather oppresive and wrong solution to the problem)
In a polygamous family, the wives are the ones competing for attention. This will decrease the time spent for proper nurturing and has a high chance that the children will imitate their selfishness and insecurities
And I havent included how the dominant male will treat his family like collections that can be replaced
Well, you might be right, but I don't know. Polygamy is so limited it is hard to tell how bad it is. I imagine it would be similar to single parent families, so I guess it is bad anyway.
Qoute: "A large-scale study currently underway across Malaysia uncovers proof that polygamy harms everyone involved: from emotionally scarred children, to wives who think they’d be better off as single-parent households, and even husbands who admit “I wouldn’t recommend it for my son; it’s quite stressful.”
Qoute: "History suggests that it is. A new study out of the University of British Columbia documents how societies have systematically evolved away from polygamy because of the social problems it causes.......Children, too, appear to suffer in polygamous cultures. Henrich examines a study comparing 19th-century Mormon households, 45 of them headed by wealthy men, generally with multiple wives, and 45 headed by poorer men, generally with one wife each. What’s surprising is that the children of the poorer men actually fared better, proving more likely to survive to age 15."
I am not sure how relevant the first study is. It is hard to compare what your life would be like if the situation was different. I have heard several married guys tell me not to get married. But yeah, I can see it being stressful.
Objectively I don't think so. It's not like the children that will be produced in a polygamous home will be neglected. Or it's not like they have a higher chance of being neglected I should say. If no one is being harmed by the relationship, I don't see the relationship as wrong.
Homosexuality is not inherently harmful if people use safe sex practices, but pedophilia is harmful because it exploits children. Sex with animals is rape because animals cannot consent and incest can result in children with major medical problems. The same for multiple sex partners.
1. Wives? Why does it necessarily mean plural of females? Couldn't it as well be plural of males in the relationship?
And you have nothing to back this theory up with, so your argument is invalid, plus .. why do you care if they will compete for attention?
2. Exposed how? Exposed as all children are in a normal fucked up family?
3. Again, you have nothing to back this theory up with, your argument is invalid.
4. Again, ''the father'' .. why not ''the fathers'' ? A polygamorous relationship says nothing about how many people can be in a relationship together, nor does is say that there needs to be a certain number of a certain gender.
But yeah again .. you are talking shit you can't back up.
Polygamous is a sexual preference saying you can love as many people you like. There is nothing about gender in the definition. There can plural members of both females and males in a polygamous relationship.
2. That goes for all families. Not just polygamous families.
3. Yeah I've heard of it. Although it has nothing to do with the topic. Sibling Rivalry can arise in heterosexual families as well as other families.
4. Yes sure. If you take all the failed polygamous families and make a study only including them, sure .. polygamy is going to sound horrible.
I'm going to make a study about heterosexual families too.
I'm going to pick these families to participate in my study:
1. The family where the husband beats his wife everyday
2. The family where the wife mentally tortures her husband
3. The family whose 13 year old daughter is 4 months pregnant.
4. The family whose 14 year old son is a drug addict.
Are you aware of that more than half of all marriages end up in divorce? What does that say about heterosexual marriages.
My point is that not ALL polygamous relationships are bad, not ALL polygamous men make bad fathers. To make such a claim is stupid. Do you know all polygamous fathers? No, you don't.
1. Nope, thats all the findings turned into an article
2. Polygamous families will involve plenty of children. Guess how vicious the rivalry will be
3. But not as intense as those of polygamy who can have more than 10 children
4.Yes I can understand your point. But according to study, the chances of attaining happiness in a polygamous relationship is only good for the "dominant one". While the subordinates suffers an illusionary relationship.
Yes yes, I know that the youth of today tend to abuse their right to divorce but dont you think that it will only grew worse under the influence of polygamy?
I mean, the father will have complete dominance over his harem wherein he can divorce anyone if it upsets him. And quickly find a replacement and mental support. The divorced wife on the other hand, will have to carry the grief alone.
2. I don't want to guess. Because guessing often leads to bad assumptions.
3. Heterosexual can also have more than 10 children.
4. No, I don't think it will grow worse with the influence of polygamy. I don't see any reason why it would. Just like homosexual marriages won't influence heterosexual marriages, polygamous marriages won't either.
the habit or system of mating with more than one individual, either simultaneously or successively.
What you are thinking of is bigamy, where one male has several wives.
In a polygamous relationship, you are allowed to have as many lovers you like, regardless of their gender. There can be 3 dudes and 1 girl, those three dudes might also have 2 other lovers each outside the relationship.
You are thinking of bigamy, which is far from the same thing as polygamy.
Thats a strong word. I hope you can back it up with facts
You want me to back up the statement that the links you gave me are articles? Click on them for God's sake.
Playing with words? For God's sakes woman look it up.
Please dont press on topics that do not even matter. Whether whatever you call it, its still just the same act of having multiple partners. The Nitpick is one of the weakest flame warrior y,know
Polygamy hasn't got anything to do with the Koran
Oh sure, then tell me, based on your situation of:
"There can be 3 dudes and 1 girl, those three dudes might also have 2 other lovers each outside the relationship."
Tell me, what country/state does not consider that as cheating?
If you won't realize bigamy and polygamy are two DIFFERENT things, I can't continue this discussion.
You do realized that I asked you for scientific studies that supports polygamy, right?
Qoute: "A large-scale study currently underway across Malaysia uncovers proof that polygamy harms everyone involved: from emotionally scarred children, to wives who think they’d be better off as single-parent households, and even husbands who admit “I wouldn’t recommend it for my son; it’s quite stressful.”
Qoute "History suggests that it is. A new study out of the University of British Columbia documents how societies have systematically evolved away from polygamy because of the social problems it causes.......Children, too, appear to suffer in polygamous cultures. Henrich examines a study comparing 19th-century Mormon households, 45 of them headed by wealthy men, generally with multiple wives, and 45 headed by poorer men, generally with one wife each. What’s surprising is that the children of the poorer men actually fared better, proving more likely to survive to age 15."
Science is behind my back. Your ways of denial is very entertaining to watch
Since you cannot see the elephant in the room, then worry not, I wont step down to your level
Lol.
Prove it then :)
do you seriously want me to prove how polygamy is not cheating?
Okay, let's see here girl.
A polygamous man is allowed to have as many lovers as he likes, males or females, but only if all his lovers are aware of whom he is with. He has to present his new lovers to all his current lovers, for them to approve. Once's his other lovers have approved of the new lover, he can begin making a relationship with the new lover.
If they do not approve, but the man somehow still wants to be with this new lover, he can either break up with the current lovers he has, or he can hide his new lover from them. If he decides to do the second thing, then it would be cheating.
That is how polygamy works.
You are clueless, so I don't want to debate with you.
In a polygamous relationship, you are allowed to have as many lovers you like, regardless of their gender. There can be 3 dudes and 1 girl, those three dudes might also have 2 other lovers each outside the relationship.
Come my friend, prove to me that it is not a cheating :)
You are clueless, so I don't want to debate with you.
Said by the guy who just skipped the scientific facts
Honestly, I don't see the big problem. Why can't consenting adults get married to each other. I honestly think there should be a limit of how many wives or husbands or both one can take up, but only if that becomes a problem. And I'm sure it won't mess with the children. Children can adapt to most non-threatening or non-damaging situations, and polygamy is neither of those. I really don't see why not.
Because it will cause a competition for attention of the father-both for wives and kids. And if such an environment will be left unattented, it will cause a turmoil wherein the children will grow up selfish and competitive.
The father will also end up reducing his view of his wife into mere collections
A simple solution would be that one cannot marry more than one person without the consent of all spouses. If that law is implemented with polygamy, it would be the wife's or wives' only fault(s) if they start competing for the man or the man begins thinking of them as collections. Also, it isn't assured that the man will think that way or the women act that way. And who says the children will compete for their father's attention? The children will be competing no more than they would in a monogamy. I believe they should make it legal in at least one state in the U.S.A. just to see how it goes. I mean, that's what the various states are for, see what works for which group of people so everyone who wants to do one thing can go to a state that accepts their views legally.
Morality does not exist. It also is subject to change with each culture, community and individual. Illegal drugs are banned because they harm the human body and can make the drugged person harm others. Tell me who polygamy harms and how it harms them, please.
What you are talking about is called "Legality and Acceptance"of a practice. But in the end, there is only one rule for morality and it is called the Golden Rule
"Do not do to others what you dont want others to do unto you"
Under that rule, tell me, is polygamy right when it promotes neglect, competition and objectification of the wives?
Illegal drugs are banned because they harm the human body and can make the drugged person harm others. Tell me who polygamy harms and how it harms them, please.
I said it before right? Polygamy causes rivalry between family members and can affect the mental health of the children. While the father on the other hand, gets to enjoy an easy life of replacing the family that he no longer takes pleasure with
I see your point, though not because of your arguments. I did a bit more research on polygamy. I still say to let each person decide for themselves, but I see what you're getting at. And the Golden Rule is no longer the Golden Rule once made opposite. Just saying. I yield to your point, though don't think of it as a triumph since you yourself did not convince me.
Polygamy has its faults, but everything does. Once laws are put in place with it, it should be fine.
Aye, everything does have its faults. But considering the fact that in a polygamous relationship, only the dominant one gets most of the benefits while the other party suffers the danger of being replaced easily, I believe that its better off not legalizing it.
Once allowed, it will only promote sexism and inequality in relationships.
As long as everyone consents to it, nothing should be wrong with taking multiple partners. For some reason, when polygamy is brought up, everyone thinks of polygyny. That isn't the only form. It's not about controlling women; it's about having a consensual relationship in which there happens to be multiple people legally recognized, whether that relationship consists of men, women, nonbinaries, or any combination. Also, a quick Google search will tell you that there are no problems when raising children.
