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34
27
Of course Never
Debate Score:61
Arguments:41
Total Votes:67
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Would you ever torture someone?

Of course

Side Score: 34
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Never

Side Score: 27
6 points

I would torture someone if it meant saving the life of someone I loved.

Side: Of course
2 points

Only if it meant saving lives.

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Side: Of course

I use tickle torture on my kids all the time. It's gotten to the point where all I have to do is wiggle my fingers at them from across the room and they start laughing in anticipation ;)

Side: Of course
1 point

I would never torture for the sake of enjoyment. By asking "Would you ever" opens up all possibilities imaginable. I wouldn't torture someone who cut me off on the road. I would torture someone to bring about the end of a violent crime though. It all depends on circumstantial factors.

Side: Of course
1 point

Only for revenge. Sweet, bitter, cold revenge.

Never to get information. That's just stupid.

Side: Of course
1 point

I one tortured a man in Reno, just to watch him die.

Also I would do it for teh lulz.

Side: Of course

Yes.

I try never to speak absolutes. There are situations which would lead me to torture a person. Anyone who denies this isn't thinking of enough situations. There's a situation which will make anyone do anything, and make them feel justified doing it.

Side: Of course
1 point

SIMPLE WHEN WE ARE EMOTIONAL.WHEN WE BECOME ANGRY WE OURSELVES DO NOT KNOW WHAT WE ARE DOING? WE SIMPLY SHOW OUR ANGRY ON OTHERS.SO THAT THEY START IGNORING US IT IS A TYPE OF TORTURE.

Side: Of course
1 point

Based on the possible circumstances, I think I would torture someone. Torture at Guantanamo Bay stopped a terrorist attack that could have happened in Los Angeles.

Side: Of course
1 point

origin of torture is intention of revenge or peace etc

it happens with everyone (but we have to be cool)

for example your friends call u bad name and gives u bad word all the time

this is a type of mental torture

generally the person

loses his temper and go angry

but controlling ourself is advisable

because

they wont stop untill u stop taking it cool rather being angry

they want to see u angry and frustrated...

so have fun and take care

Side: Of course
1 point

Water-boarding or torturing a handful of known terrorists to keep thousands of innocent people from a terrorist attack....absolutely.

People want to be protected and sue if their love ones are not yet have no real idea of how that protection is to be carried out.

Side: Of course

Yes. To save lives, to get revenge, to protect those who are close to me and to get info.

Side: Of course
1 point

In certain situations, the end truly does justify the means.

Side: Of course
1 point

HELL YES SOME CHILMO IS MOLESTING MY NEPHEW I LLOKING FOR THE BEST WAY TO CUT HIM UP SO I WONT KILL HIM BUT IF I DO ILL GO DOWN A HAPPY MAN.

Side: Of course
1 point

HELL YES SOME CHILMO IS MOLESTING MY NEPHEW I LLOKING FOR THE BEST WAY TO CUT HIM UP SO I WONT KILL HIM BUT IF I DO ILL GO DOWN A HAPPY MAN.

Side: Of course
0 points

It depends on how you define torture. ;)

My siblings and I used to have "torture time" and "tickle time". Tickle time was when one of us was held down while the others went to town tickling- it started to hurt. lol.

Torture time was when someone was held down and the torturer would spit down over the face and pull it back up before it touched their face. Kind of like in Big Daddy when the kid spits all the way to the ground and pulls it back up. :D

Side: Of course
DaWolfman(3321) Disputed
2 points

I think you know what I meant, torture as in

torture; the act of inflicting excruciating pain, as punishment or revenge, as a means of getting a confession or information, or for sheer cruelty.

Side: Of course
1 point

Yes yes I know. hehe.

But I agree 100% with what you said so I decided to add points to this side AND add a little humor to it. ;)

Side: Of course

That's why being the oldest child has its benefits. Sure, you have to do more work and things get blamed on you, but you're always the one dishing out the pain, not being spit on and other things that make childhood a nightmare.

Side: Of course
0 points

I wish I was the oldest. I'm third of four, but I'm closest in age to my younger brother, so I tortured him more than anyone else tortured anyone else. Muahaha! >=D

Side: Of course

My brother "tortures" me like that. He also enjoys shoving my face in snow. And picking me up upside down and dropping me on my head.

Yeah, we're real close.

Side: Of course
5 points

Torture is cruel and inexcusable in all situations. It's an unreliable means of getting information. It often yields NO response, and when a response is given by the victim, it is often misinformation for the sake of stopping the torture.

It transforms the torturer into a monster, no better than the scumbag he/she is torturing. When we sink to that, we give up our humanity.

Side: never
xander(438) Disputed
1 point

I agree that torture is cruel; I agree that I would like to say that I would never torture anyone. But I know that if someone I cared about, someone I love, was taken from me, I would probably beat the shit (excuse my profanity, but I think it’s appropriate for this situation) out of someone that I thought had information. If someone were to kidnap my sister and I had a good idea who, I’d like to say I would do whatever was right in the situation- and if that required being cruel, I could probably do it. Does that make me a lesser human being? Probably. But does it highlight the fact that I am human, with human flaws and human limits? I think it does. People have a breaking point, and while strategic torture of prisoners by governments is wrong, I think you’re mostly fooling yourself if you think you could never torture someone, or that you could never kill or you could never save yourself or someone you love by sacrificing another. You’re human, I’m human, and humans have capacity for great love and great destructiveness.

Side: Under Extenuating Circumstances
Spoonerism(831) Disputed
1 point

Beating someone up is not necessarily torture, nor is killing them.

Torture, according to the United Nations Convention Against Torture, is:

...any act by which severe pain or suffering, whether physical or mental, is intentionally inflicted on a person for such purposes as obtaining from him, or a third person, information or a confession, punishing him for an act he or a third person has committed or is suspected of having committed, or intimidating or coercing him or a third person, or for any reason based on discrimination of any kind, when such pain or suffering is inflicted by or at the instigation of or with the consent or acquiescence of a public official or other person acting in an official capacity. It does not include pain or suffering arising only from, inherent in, or incidental to, lawful sanctions.

I think torture requires SEVERE mental and physical anguish. Shooting someone and killing them instantly would not qualify. But ripping their nails out, and shooting different parts of their body daily until they bleed out would. So it all depends on how you go about it.

Still, I'm not sure I'd have it in me to beat someone or kill them simply for wronging someone I was close to. I may have too much of a bleeding heart even for that.

Side: never

I could never torture someone and feel good or justified doing it. The thought would never cross my mind although mental torture is probably something I could aspire to if circumstances warranted it.

Side: never
2 points

People in favor of torture love to bring up situations in which America is teetering on the brink of catastrophe and the terrorist in his jail cell has information to stop it. Whenever I hear this, I have to laugh. I mean seriously, this never happens. We are never moments away from cataclysm with a terrorist who can give us info to stop it. This is the stuff of 007 movies and Dick Cheney's dreams. Enough with the reactionism already.

We have to realize that not only is torture ineffective and unreliable, but morally unacceptable 100% of the time, regardless of the situation (as if the aforementioned situation ever arises at all)

Side: never
2 points

They do love that argument.

Torture simply isn't conditionally moral. It's abhorrent and immoral all of the time, regardless of how many people could be saved by a successful torture incident.

Side: never
1 point

I dont care wat the reasoning is, torture should never be used in any form to get info, happiness, etc etc. Tortuer may have been what most other countries do to their captured but just cuz 1 country does it doesnt mean another should.

Side: never
DaWolfman(3321) Disputed
1 point

Ok well lets look at it this way. Someone has kidnapped someone that you love, and you have apprehended one of the kidnappers and he/she knows where your loved one is. The only catch is that they refuse to tell you where, and that they will be dead in a couple of days.

You are telling me that you would not torture them in order to gain the whereabouts of your loved one? You would let your loved one die?

Side: Of course
I4gotmypass(10) Disputed
2 points

Ok well when would that situation ever occur? That whole set up is stupid and nearly impossible.

Side: never
1 point

There is very little chance that such a situation will be met where torture is required(Nowadays), and even if it is, it will probably not be us who tortures another person - I mean you can't just kidnap back the person then force him to reveal where the victim is! That would just be madness! Finally, I am sure that torture won't be needed, for, though the law is not perfect, it is usually enough.

Side: never
1 point

1) totalizing views is stoopid.

2) ontology o/w nuclear war - if we lose our ontological being we'd be betta off dead yo.

3) you destroy all value to life - thats the zero point of the holocaust.

4) forced choices are fucking absurd. get reall jiggas. I'M OUT.

Side: never
mbarrieau(26) Disputed
1 point

VTL don't make a bit of difference when we're all dead. Util calc good motherbitch.

Also the holocaust? More like the LOLocaust.

Side: Of course
1 point

Torture is unnecessary and inhumane for one, the victim is does not simply die but kept alive in the cruelest of ways, and two, there are better ways in getting the thing you want out of someone eg. Persuasion, Incentives etc. Would i ever torture someone?- Never

Side: never
1 point

I would like to say no, but you never know until your put in a situation. Maybe where someone your love is on the line.

Side: Hopefully Not