Is there such a thing as right and wrong?
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http://www.createdebate.com/user/points/ Caught red handed. Is this the Christian way? There was more wrong than right in the Old Testament. There is more right than wrong in the New Testament. The Old was based entirely on mythology and fear, the New was based more on compassion and "drifted" into mythology, IMO, of course. If you look at it, it seems more of what most people look at as cruel countries, with few morals, are the countries that look at women as "inferior" or something that should be "contained" or "controlled". There, the men seem to get "out of control". Conservatively speaking, that's "right". I think that's "wrong", speaking liberally. :-) There was more wrong than right in the Old Testament. There is more right than wrong in the New Testament. The Old was based entirely on mythology and fear, the New was based more on compassion and "drifted" into mythology, IMO, of course. According to what standard are you saying that the Old Testament is wrong, and that the New Testament is more right? Wrong. Christians pillaged people, Jews were slaves. Study the testaments more. OT was a fair and ruthless God. NT was an irrational permanent-punishment and ridiculous-reward God with no purgatory or concept of just forgiveness (pray for it and it's all forgiveness wtf?) It's bullshit. 1
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I was talking about the message, not the people of the time. THEY have gotten worse over time. Neither the fear nor the forgiveness seemed to catch on. Or if the "forgiveness" caught on it was often "imagined"! I wouldn't be a Christian, I wouldn't be a Muslim, I wouldn't follow Judaism. The fear never got me, the wish for godly forgiveness wasn't needed. If I need forgiveness I'll ask for it, from an individual that I can communicate with by human means not "spiritual". I'm not into bullshit either. 0
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There was more wrong than right in the Old Testament. There is more right than wrong in the New Testament. The Old was based entirely on mythology and fear, the New was based more on compassion and "drifted" into mythology, IMO, of course. I agree with you Alfie. Good point well made. There is such a thing as right and wrong, but there is question that must be addressed further and that is "Where does right and wrong come from?" We can't just be making moral claims without any sort of foundation to lay underneath to stand on. If we don't have any sort of foundation to back it up with then you have no basis to make such a claim as to what something is right and what something is wrong. 1
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If we don't have any sort of foundation to back it up with then you have no basis to make such a claim as to what something is right and what something is wrong. If you don't have some sort of foundation to back it up then you have no basis to say there is such a thing as right and wrong. 1
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Evil is that which increases suffering- both in magnitude and number of people There are numerous situations wherein people suffer in the short run for the sake of some long run good. That suffering is not considered evil, neither by the sufferer nor the observer. The suffering associated with pregnancy comes to mind. 1
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Ok weāre kinda splitting hairs here. Iām not talking short term PAIN. I define suffering is something thatās long term or infinite like HUNGER, OVERPOPULATION, DISEASE, ENSLAVED. Are we on same page? The Bible even justifies some of the following suffering: Slavery, domination over women (form of slavery), exploitation of all other creatures bc man is āspecialā. And why does the desert god hate sex so much. Jeeze |
