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Yes, war is justified No, war is not justified
Debate Score:170
Arguments:76
Total Votes:204
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Is war justified?

According to...
1. Just War Theory and its six principles
2. Executive branch vs Legislative branch definitions
3. Opposing perspectives
4. Damage and results

Yes, war is justified

Side Score: 70
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No, war is not justified

Side Score: 100
2 points

I think that some wars are justified, depending on the motive for the war. For example, I think that the civil war was justified because there were changes that needed to be made, that certain parties were not willing to conform to.

Side: Yes, war is justified
1 point

i agree with this because depending on what war it is and what we are going to war for. some of the wars that the us was involved in such as the vietnam war, the us didnt need to be involved in that and they just ended up surrendering anyway so in that case the war wasnt justiffied. so i think it just depends on the war and what the war was about.

Side: Yes, war is justified
2 points

War is as justified as the purity of its intention. If a man's intention is to rid the world of Jews through mass genocide, then war is NOT justified as his intention is certainly not pure.

If a peaceful nation observes another nation being destroyed by an overwhelming evil and this peaceful nation goes to war with this other nation in hopes of eradicating the evil and instilling peace, then the war IS justified as the intention to spread peace is as pure as it gets.

Side: Yes, war is justified
2 points

i think that it is justified because the U.S. was either trying to help or fight for their land.

Side: Yes, war is justified
2 points

War is justified when all diplomatic strategies have either failed or resulted in worse conditions. Ex: America had avoided being in the war during WWII, but after being bombed by Japan and war declared on by Germany the US didn’t have a choice. Another easier axample is when you have a house in Minecraft and another player blows it up, it is justified that you blow up their house.

Side: Yes, war is justified
2 points

War is justified if we are in need of resources, also if it means that we have to defend are resources.

Side: Yes, war is justified
2 points

war is justified if it is fought for a good reason and because not all wars last forever

Side: Yes, war is justified
1 point

war is only just if it is fought for a reason that is justified and that carries sufficient weight of sorrow and pain The country that wishes to use military force to demonstrate that is was wrong but in a right way.

Side: Yes, war is justified
1 point

War it is justified, it's human nature. For all of human existance we have fought each other even killed and eat eachother, but in todays world war as seen as a tragedy. The earth is over populated it won't be able to sustain life for another generation. On the other hand war is destructuive and wasteful.

Side: Yes, war is justified
Dreadnought(264) Disputed
2 points

War it is justified, it's human nature.

You had better hope that you are wrong. If it is the "nature" of our species to destroy itself then we have no future.

For all of human existance we have fought each other

While this is true, it is also true that for all of human existence, the majority of people have been ordered what to do by a small psychopathic minority.

Side: No, war is not justified
1 point

Only if the war was fought for the right reasons. Like fighting for innocent that have been slaughtered.

Side: Yes, war is justified
1 point

I believe that war is justified but only should be use for last resort. We have laws that are placed to prevent war but when people break those laws they're bring on war

Side: Yes, war is justified
Dreadnought(264) Disputed
1 point

We have laws that are placed to prevent war but when people break those laws they're bring on war

A good example might be George W Bush, who ignored international law and the UN Charter, and persuaded Americans to invade Iraq anyway.

According to the following website (https://www.iraqbodycount.org/), since the invasion of Iraq in 2003, there have been between 182,650 and 205,043 documented civilian deaths caused by violence. If that happened in your own country and everyone you ever knew was violently killed, regardless of the fact that they were not even combatants, would you still consider war to be justified?

Side: No, war is not justified
1 point

i feel like war is always going to continue, i feel like theres always going to be some conflict thats going to be "solved" with war

Side: Yes, war is justified
1 point

I think some wars can be justified if there was good reasons and it felt that was only way to fix a bad situation but wars can also be unjustified when for example people are using it just as a reason to win something that could be solved in other ways.

Side: Yes, war is justified
1 point

War is only justified for certain circumstances, such as Germany invading Poland and other surrounding countries. Diplomacy is not always an option, when it is it should be used, but if not, then war is the only solution left to fend off whomever refuses to talk and only take. Whether that be the forced taking of land or lives, it is unjustified actions that lead to the justified declaration of war.

Side: Yes, war is justified
1 point

war was fair. Both groups wanted power. For example the U.S and the France. Both sides wanted land and create better land expand. Every group wanted peace. Not everyone got along. People wanted resources.

Side: Yes, war is justified
1 point

in my opinion, war can be justified at times, really its all comes down to their intentions and some were for the right reasoning like just cause, but that doesnt cancel out all the wars that were not. wars start for a reason and they want to react to it accordingly, so it could have been justified at the time maybe.

Side: Yes, war is justified
1 point

War is justified to make sure to keep evil out of the world. America has always tried to take the good guy side. If you are going to war to protect your people you are by all means justified. For example, going to war with terrorists is by all means justified. You can't just ask terrorists to stop, they don't care.

Side: Yes, war is justified
1 point

Yes war is justified in some ways it might be the last thing you can do or it might be to protect our land or help an allied country who is being attacked there is always reasons why war is justified some more than others so war is justified.

Side: Yes, war is justified
1 point

War is justified depending on the intentions that you go to war with. If we never fought in wars then we never would have gained our independance.

Side: Yes, war is justified
Dreadnought(264) Disputed
1 point

If we never fought in wars then we never would have gained our independance.

But it was war which led to you becoming a British colony in the first place.

Side: No, war is not justified
1 point

War is justified. If someone starts a war over nothing and just wants something then no its not. However if a country or people are being attacked even though they are peaceful and they fight back then yes it is a just war. Another example would be if one country thinks there should be one ruler for all of the earth and everyone else says no and they wage war. then yes it is a just war.

Side: Yes, war is justified
Dreadnought(264) Disputed
1 point

War is justified. If someone starts a war over nothing and just wants something then no its not. However if a country or people are being attacked even though they are peaceful and they fight back then yes it is a just war.

I think you are employing a stark double standard in the way you use the word "war", in order to satisfy your pre-existing conclusions. If "war is justified", then obviously the people who started "a war over nothing" were justified to do so.

What you appear to be arguing is that war is justified because it is OK to fight back when someone starts an unnecessary war. That is a self-contradictory viewpoint, because you are using an example of how war is unjustified as part of your reasoning to justify war.

Side: No, war is not justified
1 point

I believe yes, war is justified, but I believe it is only justified if started for the right intention. If they aren't going to war to end something that needs to be stopped, then there really shouldn't be war.

Side: Yes, war is justified
1 point

Yes, war is justified. Many times, war is caused by a retaliation of a certain event. For example, the U.S. started a war with Japan after they bombed pearl harbor. This is completely justified. Other causes of war can include the U.S. trying to defend their allies, or preventing the spread of communism. I think preventing communism is all that has to be said when saying war is justified. War is necessary to solve the world conflicts.

Side: Yes, war is justified
1 point

Id say war is justified in most cases because usually its just us protecting our country and fighting back. War is justified if they have a reason for doing so. Some arent justified but most are in my opinion.

Side: Yes, war is justified
1 point

War can be justified through Right Intention. In the Civil War, the Union (north) wanted to abolish slavery, which is seen as a correct intention. War can be justified through Last Resort. After Japan bombed Pearl Harbor, the US entered WW2, making it justifiable through Last Resort.

Side: Yes, war is justified
1 point

War is justified under certain circumstances. Trying to negotiate with a country does not always work, and many governments are different. If one country is harassing the other and doesn't show signs of stopping, what can the other country do? If one country bombs another, what do they do? Take it and move on? War is justified when it is Last Resort, or there's a good cause to go.

Side: Yes, war is justified
1 point

War is justified if it is fought for a good reason and not for something dumb.

Side: Yes, war is justified
1 point

i think yes, in some cases. in the civil war they were fighting to save the slaves, and get equal rights.

Side: Yes, war is justified
1 point

War is justified if there is a good reason. If somebody foreign tries to invade our country we should definitely fight back. When there is a valid reason to defend your country then you have to defend it.

Side: Yes, war is justified
1 point

War is justified we end up resolving the situation at the end of war with good reasoning and why we would go to war with them I can see how war is justified

Side: Yes, war is justified
1 point

Yes war is justified if it follows one of the just war principles. An example of this was the American Indian war where the natives went to war after several failed peace attempts to keeps their land

Side: Yes, war is justified
1 point

I think war is only justified if it follows the Just War principle Last Resort. In WW2 the United States had no other choice than to fight. If we wouldn't have fought back then Japan would've kept attacking.The United States was not going to try and find a peaceful way to end the conflict, war was the only resort.

Side: Yes, war is justified
1 point

I believe that war is justifies when it comes to certain aspects. America in my opinion, has never gone to war without reason. We defend our country, our allies, and our rights. We mostly get into war because of a different country initiated it. Just cause is the most common for America.

Side: Yes, war is justified
1 point

War is justified because it's a way of ending an argument or a situation. Usually it's also caused by an event that causes us to have to retaliate. It also is used as a "Last Resort."

Side: Yes, war is justified
1 point

i think that war will be justified on one side. it might not be justified on the loosers side but on the winners side the war is going to be justified becuase if they win then they could have gained what they were fighting for.

Side: Yes, war is justified
1 point

Yes if they do it for the right reasons sometimes you have to fight and if you’re doing it for the betterment of the common human then yes war is justified.

Side: Yes, war is justified
1 point

Sometimes War is needed for ending things that need to be ended. It can help stop violence towards people. I think it’s justified.

Side: Yes, war is justified
1 point

I think war is justified only when it is for a good reason. This would fall under the “right intention” category of the just war principle. I believe some wars have to happen because there is no other way for a country to get things to change. For example, Americans would never be free if they didn’t go to war

Side: Yes, war is justified
1 point

I think that war is justified for the most part. Most of the time war is justified because the United States have good intentions but in some cases, for example; American Indian wars were not justified because it was over land. On the other hand some wars are like the civil war, it had good intentions and was the last outcome because the opposing sides couldn’t meet in the middle.

Side: Yes, war is justified
1 point

I believe war is only justified if correctly using the just war theory. More specifically I believe wars that follow just cause and last resort are justified because they show that both reason and emotion are important. War is a way of solving and sometimes creating conflict and if not upheld to the just war theory I believe it is not justified by any means. Every war that America has been involved in has followed at least one part of the just war theory if not more and though from the other end those wars did not come off as justified there was always a reason for them.

Side: Yes, war is justified
1 point

I think that war is necessary. Does this make it justified? Well, that depends. If you are not prepared to defend your self by going to war, then you will be over run by invaders. on the other hand, the U.S. has been unjustly interfering with other peoples wars. You should be prepared for war but you should never want to go to war.

Side: Yes, war is justified
1 point

Ye, war is justified because U.S trying to protect for their land and they want to fight for their rights.

Side: Yes, war is justified
1 point

War is justified since it’s usually to stop someone or something that could affect innocent people lives

Side: Yes, war is justified
1 point

Yes war can be justified but it largely depends on the situation as there are a large variety of important factors. To engage in a just war I believe last resort, proportionality and just cause are the most important of the seven just war theories. War should not be an option as means to financial or material gain. or to attain territory control.

Side: Yes, war is justified
1 point

War is justified if you have the right intent. WW2 was justified by the America because of the surprise Japanese attack. Throwing them into the pacific theater and Europe. They had to protect human rights for Jews and other minorities in central Europe. Many wars are can be justified depending on what side you look at. If the country was attacked first it makes it justified to fight back

Side: Yes, war is justified
1 point

I believe that it is possible for war to be justified. This does not apply to all wars, but it is an option that should remain valid. War can be justified with just war principals such as last resort. If a side has nothing more they can do, it would actually be unjust to not go into war and let themselves remain in danger. Even though war usually ends in destruction, it can provide hope for an overall better future.

Side: Yes, war is justified
1 point

I believe that if the war follows the concept of Just War, along with following common morality, is justified. Two of these concepts, just cause and last resort, I believe have more power and influence than the other. If a problem arises that has a need for that can’t be solved by a last resort, and that needs to be fixed, war is a viable option.

Side: Yes, war is justified
-1 points

war is justified in some ways, like when it comes down to "last resort"

Side: Yes, war is justified
0 points

War is justified in the way that it is our last resort or we are trying to help and it can be because we are brought into it

Side: Yes, war is justified
7 points

According to the Last Resort and Proportionality Just War Principles, war can never be justified as the results in the end are always destructive. There are always other solutions available which can easily prevent war.

Side: No, war is not justified
38255(4) Disputed
6 points

Yes, war is destructive, but war is in human nature, and through out history, a stubborn man listens to no words. If said stubborn man in a position of power such as Adolf Hitler, then the idea of diplomacy seems more and more futile and war is the only solution.

Side: Yes, war is justified
Dreadnought(264) Disputed
6 points

Yes, war is destructive, but war is in human nature

This argument is a pernicious myth which cannot be justified with any empirical evidence. In the entire recorded history of humanity nobody has ever produced definitive proof that there is any such thing as "human nature", and indeed many historical scholars (most notably Hegel) outright denied its existence.

Were your argument valid then one would not expect mass demonstrations against war, nor indeed would war be regarded as a negative thing in the first place. Everybody would be fighting all of the time.

Side: No, war is not justified
40176(4) Disputed
6 points

The Last Resort Principle is applied when no peaceful agreement could be met upon. For example, in the Revolutionary War, America told Britain their demands, which were not met. Therefore, we went to war. Although war is destructive, other solutions don't always work even when they are available.

Side: Yes, war is justified
7 points

While a war reaches a conclusion, people often think the problem is solved. It's not entirely true, as there is still a clash of opinions that still rage on to this day. All the war really does is end of killing people for no reason. Every war could've easily prevented the fighting.

Side: No, war is not justified
6 points

I don't think war is Justified because it creates a lot of innocent bloodshed that is not needed.

Side: No, war is not justified
4 points

I agree, there are so many other ways to deal with these things. You don’t have to involve innocent people, children even. What’s the point? Is it to produce fear into the country? Not everything should come down to bloodshed.

Side: No, war is not justified
5 points

The reason why I strongly disagree of war not being justified is lacking of using diplomacy and the Right intention principle in the "Just War" theory. As many wars always start, they go straight to war itself, creating innocent bloodshed and destruction among cities. It's true that few of the many wars have a reason to fight for their cause, but they end up causing more bloodshed than it needs to for their cause.

Side: No, war is not justified
5 points

I do not believe that war is justified because there are always other alternatives then what happened during all of the wars. one example is when in the Indian Wars, the Americans came in and took over the Indian Territory forcefully. They mass murdered them and forced them to leave their home. This also goes against the proportionality principle because there were way more Americans then there were Indians.

Side: No, war is not justified
4 points

War is not justified because of proportionality. In most of the wars we learned about, proportionality was not a factor. Many innocent lives were lost because of war when most of the wars could have been avoided.

Side: No, war is not justified
4 points

I think that war isn't justified. The world is unnatural with war. I think that everyone, despite the fact that everyone has different opinions and feelings, should try and make this world better with peace. We cannot change history, and the mourning that people went through, but why must we have war in the world? Its a sad thing that effects us all, no matter what race nor religion, no one should go through that. It effects the worlds spirit. There will always be people considered a "bad" or "dangerous" person, but it is a problem for them. They should also not be effecting us or the world, for which they are effecting themselves the most.

Side: No, war is not justified
4 points

I think war can be justified but its its kind of not justified because of the amount of Innocent people who die even if they weren't in the battle.

Side: No, war is not justified
3 points

No, war is never justified. There's always a better way to solve issues. Even if that option is not clear, or does not seem like the right move for a country, it always exists.

Side: No, war is not justified
3 points

I believe that war is not justified. Violence is not a sustainable way to get your ideals across. War creates death, violence, fires, starvation, and suffering. War leads to broken homes and funerals. I believe that we as humans need a new way to get what we want. Instead of missiles, sends compromises. No country should kill another country over physical materials. People are not objects that can be thrown away to get what the government wants. Each soldier and civilian death should put a country behind, not further towards their goals.

Side: No, war is not justified
3 points

War is never justified. I mean, what is the point? You kill people, destroy their home, dreams and property. You traumatize them for a life long. People who have nothing to do with it. People who just want to live their life happy.

Children who want to go to school but they can't because their school does no longer exist. Children who loose their parents.

Side: No, war is not justified
3 points

I think that most wars start with just cause, and right intentions. Like if our country or allies are being threatened and there is no other option but to go into war (lat resort) I think it is justified.

But I think that it goes over bored and it gets more personal than it needs to be. I believe that the deaths of innocent civilians isn't justified in the name of the war, they were not apart of it.

Side: No, war is not justified
3 points

Why do we get into wars we shouldnt be involved in? sometimes it can just cause more problems

Side: No, war is not justified
3 points

War has no victors only people who have suffered it’s not right or wrong there is no justice only death this a truth that I hold.

Side: No, war is not justified
3 points

No war is not justified. The killing of millions of people for just the ideas and the goals of others seems dumb to me. Think of it as you are forced, or asked to fight for one persons death or another personal agenda it just seems all those sacrificed for nothing.

Side: No, war is not justified
3 points

War is never justified. It is very destructive and could easily be avoided. there is no reason for war. There's always so many casualties in war, and death is never justified.

Side: No, war is not justified
3 points

War is unjustified because one of the sixth just war principles is last resort and most wars don’t usually use war and violence as a last resort and the other principle is proptionality and some wars are not fair in number terms

Side: No, war is not justified
3 points

In my opinion, I don't think war is justified. There are steps you can take in order to make war justified but I don't think its fair. Everyone has different opinions which makes some wars justified to some and not justified to others. However all these steps in order to justify war is false due to it just justifying killing others. In my opinion killing others is not justifiable.

Side: No, war is not justified
2 points

I feel war is not justified unless it is the last resort. I feel that their is no reason to make war if it isn't the last resort. I feel war isn't to be taken lightly and thrown around frivolously.

Side: No, war is not justified
2 points

According to the Last resort principle, there are always other options or alternatives that can be taken beforehand. In some circumstances, there may be a reason to go to war before going through the other alternatives, such as in the wars in the middle east. However, the wrongs caused during the war rarely justify the ones that started it. h.

Side: No, war is not justified