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Not believable Fishy as hell
Debate Score:9
Arguments:13
Total Votes:9
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It's odd that leaders of the 2 most extremist 'right wing' groups are Democrats

Not believable

Side Score: 3
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Fishy as hell

Side Score: 6
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Bronto, I'm REALLY beginning to worry about your mental health!

On second thought, I began that a long time ago, but NOW it's getting worse. Do you have a gun permit?? Look down the barrel, pull the trigger and make sure it's empty … before you hurt someone!

Side: Not believable
Bronto(2002) Disputed
1 point

Bronto, I'm REALLY beginning to worry about your mental health!

On second thought, I began that a long time ago, but NOW it's getting worse. Do you have a gun permit?? Look down the barrel, pull the trigger and make sure it's empty … before you hurt someone!

Ad hominems when you are uable to challenge any of the points makes you look weak.

Care to address both "far right" extremist groups being led by Democrats?

Side: Fishy as hell
Bronto(2002) Disputed
1 point

Fred Waldron Phelps Sr. (November 13, 1929 – March 19, 2014) was the American minister of the Westboro Baptist Church and a civil rights attorney who became known for his extreme views on homosexuality and protests near the funerals of gay people, military veterans, and disaster victims, whose deaths, he believed, were the result of God punishing the U.S. for having "bankrupt values" and tolerating gay people.

Occupation

Pastor, lawyer

Organization

Westboro Baptist Church

Political party

Democratic

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/FredPhelps

We, too, have spoken to Kessler, and we’ve looked into a number of the claims these and other sources have leveled against him to make the case that he’s a left-wing operative. This is what we learned:

Was Jason Kessler a Barack Obama supporter?

True. He told us (and has consistently said elsewhere) that he was an Obama supporter and voted for him.

-Snopes

https://www.snopes.com/news/2017/08/17/jason-kessler-soros-deep-state-plant/

And here's where AlofRI runs off and hides once again with no rebuttal....

Side: Fishy as hell
AlofRI(3294) Clarified
1 point

I have said MANY times, there are nuts and crackpot extremists in ALL political parties. I have also said that I have (proudly) voted for Republicans in the past. Since I don't see any Republicans left, I won't be voting for one in the foreseeable future. Neither will I be voting for an extremist liberal.

The fact that this idiot claims to be a "pastor" AND "lawyer" doesn't mean he is qualified (mentally) for either. Trump ALSO claims to be "President", and he COULD claim to be a pastor and lawyer … I still wouldn't believe him! HE once claimed to be a Democrat also!

If Kessler wants to claim to be a "left wing operative" and support Obama, I can't do a thing about it. Is HE under indictment?? As I said, there are nuts in ANY political entity, not saying he IS. We, on the left, just have fewer over the last few years, and OUR side refuses to get into lockstep with OUR crackpots!

Side: Not believable
3 points

Jason Kessler, leader of "Unite the Right", a Democrat.

So the leader of "Unite the Right" is on the left?

Ahahahahaha!

Bronto, it is odd that you sit here incessantly repeating lies told by far right white supremacists such as Kessler, Hitler and Mussolini, in order to bizarrely try to convince people that they were on the left. I mean, one would have to immediately conclude that you are insane. There is literally no evidence that Kessler has ever voted Democrat in his entire life. Kessler himself, a notorious liar, insisted he once voted for Obama so that other people would not think he was a racist, and this forms the entire basis for your false claim that Kessler is a Democrat: Kessler's own allegation that he once voted for Obama.

This is getting to be really pathetic and annoying because last night you were doing exactly the same thing with Hitler. You were literally repeating lies Hitler told in order to win German votes and expecting other people to assume they must be true because Hitler said them.

Your schtick is literally insane, pal. Your information comes exclusively from fascist maniacs like Hitler, Mussolini and Kessler, but you want other people to believe we are the fascists? We aren't getting our information from Hitler buddy. That's you.

Side: Fishy as hell
Bronto(2002) Disputed
1 point

So the leader of "Unite the Right" is on the left?

That looks like it's kind of the point of the debate, and the links showing they are both Democrats openly. Care to address that?

Fred Waldron Phelps Sr. (November 13, 1929 – March 19, 2014) was the American minister of the Westboro Baptist Church and a civil rights attorney who became known for his extreme views on homosexuality and protests near the funerals of gay people, military veterans, and disaster victims, whose deaths, he believed, were the result of God punishing the U.S. for having "bankrupt values" and tolerating gay people.

Occupation

Pastor, lawyer

Organization

Westboro Baptist Church

Political party

Democratic

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/FredPhelps

We, too, have spoken to Kessler, and we’ve looked into a number of the claims these and other sources have leveled against him to make the case that he’s a left-wing operative. This is what we learned:

Was Jason Kessler a Barack Obama supporter?

True. He told us (and has consistently said elsewhere) that he was an Obama supporter and voted for him.

-Snopes

https://www.snopes.com/news/2017/08/17/jason-kessler-soros-deep-state-plant/

And here's where Nom runs off and hides once again with no rebuttal....

Side: Not believable
Bronto(2002) Disputed
1 point

Your schtick is literally insane, pal. Your information comes exclusively from fascist maniacs like Hitler, Mussolini and Kessler, but you want other people to believe we are the fascists? We aren't getting our information from Hitler buddy. That's you.

Actually you paraphrase their quotes and logic often. Request examples, and I'll give you a list longer than your nose Pinnochio.

Side: Not believable