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Debate Score:87
Arguments:41
Total Votes:93
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The new religion even comes with its very own temple. ;-)

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Is it called 'Createdebate.com' ?

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Didn't you read the article? I thought I provided the link ;-)

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Atheism has always been a religion. Our country even declared it was one. They believe by faith that the claims they make are true. Many atheists organize and they promote their worldview in many ways.

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casper3912(1580) Disputed
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? atheists disagree on many things. Their only point of agreement is a lack of belief in god, however that is defined. I challenge you to do this 3 or 4 times: Pick any two atheists on this site, at random, and see what their world view is and how similar it is. Actually, you can even make a new debate about it, asking the atheists to describe their world view; chances are it'll become a clusterfuck of disagreement.

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Nice one! :)

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I had to post my approval of this, an upvote simply wouldn't do.

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Coldfire(1014) Disputed
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They believe by faith that the claims they make are true.

No, they are convinced through scientific evidence and rational thought, that the claims that theists make are untrue.

It's not that an atheist believes that a god (or gods) doesn't exist. It's that they have no reason to believe they do. That, and they are skeptical of the 'evidence' or 'rationale' that theists use to support their claims.

The default position in the 'god vs. no god' debate is 'lack of belief' due to the lack of evidence. Until sufficient evidence or reasoning proves the claim that 'there is a god' to be true, the position of 'lack of belief,' remains the most valid.

For the record, I am able to acknowledge and understand an atheist’s rationale, even though I myself am a theist. To see otherwise would be by fault of ignorance or pride.

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Does God exist? Whether you answered yes or no, your religion has declared.

"Any absolutist attitude is always a religious attitude, and in whatever respect a man becomes absolute, there you see his religion." Carl Jung.

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Atheism is the adherence to no religon. Declaring it a religon kind of defeats the point of being an atheist

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That's the point. People will not rest until atheism becomes a religion.. ;-)

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churchmouse(328) Disputed
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Atheism makes the claim…..there is NO GOD. First of all this is a factual statement that no one can make. To make it would require all the knowledge in the universe…and no atheists can do this. Religion is a point of view it is a belief system. Atheism is the same…it takes faith to believe that there is no God.

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casper3912(1580) Disputed
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Atheism is the lack of a specific claim,

depending on how you define god and existence the claim that there is no god can indeed be rational and as factual as other factual claims.

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Dremorius(861) Disputed
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You are sort of an Atheist too. (As I've said in a previous argument-) you have a lack of belief in the Norse Gods, The Greek Gods, The Islamic God, The Pagan Gods, The Roman Gods, etc.

That means you are practicing a form of Atheism. It is the default position lacking a belief of a God.

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BenWalters(1513) Disputed
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How in any way does an atheists claim differ to that of a theists claim, that there is a God? I agree, both are impossible to prove, but I am agnostic, I admit that it's not something I can prove, but I have met many more gnostic theists than atheists (yes, and that's considering for a smaller total number of atheists).

Out of interest, what's your religious beliefs?

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seems like something you'd see on 'Onion news.'

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Cool, aha. Thank God.

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Atheism is simply against religion, they don't have faith and only support reason therefore atheism is not a religion.

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Foolish people like this. Oh they slay me so.

Annoying, irrational, unneeded and all around foolish. Such a temple lacks need or want from those it is meant to be for.

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But it was conceived by atheists for atheists. Are you saying that atheists are annoying, irrational and all around foolish? Because if you are..., I'm sure there are many who will side with you and many who will beg to differ ;)

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Aside from the fact that I myself am atheist, no I am not. I'm calling this one numb-nut all of the prior things. It was made by An atheist supposedly for atheists, not by atheists for atheists. =P

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imrigone(769) Disputed
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Totally ignoring that the article itself states that Dawkins and Hitchens, two of the most prominent modern atheists, are/were opposed to this project. I don't think it would be too hard to track down a bunch more.

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Atheism is defined as being nonreligious. Religion is the belief of a supernatural entity, power, or leader. Atheism states that there is NO supernatural entity, power and leader governing the universe. Atheists don't believe anything.

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An atheist once told me, "I believe I'll have another beer.". So they do believe in things, just not the same things ;-)

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There you go Joe, now you're getting it. And you made me chuckle during your "epiphany". If only I could upvote twice on one argument :)

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Coldfire(1014) Disputed
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Atheism is defined as being nonreligious.

I suppose you could say that atheists are non-religious, but that is not the definition of atheist.

Religion is the belief of a supernatural entity, power, or leader.

Religion is not "the belief of a supernatural entity, power, or leader." It is simply an institutionalized set of beliefs. People can believe in things like god or miracles and still be considered non-religious.

Atheism states that there is NO supernatural entity, power and leader governing the universe.

Some atheists may state this, but atheism is simply the suspension of belief in the truth value of a god until sufficient proof is provided. It is illogical to believe something is true when it has not been proven to be true and atheists, for the most part, understand this.

Atheists don't believe anything.

Sure they do, they just don’t use faith as a reason to believe in the existence of a god.

Theism and atheism are two sides of a spectrum to only one belief, so it would be a pretty weak claim to say they don’t believe in anything just because they don’t believe a god exists.

The fact of the matter is that nothing thus far has given the atheist community a reason to believe in the existence of a god. If you can offer proof that is observable, demonstrable, and falsifiable that there is a god, then not only will your belief be justified, but you will also convert many atheists to a theistic point of view.

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yes, the amount of atheists has made atheism part of the UNs declared religion, but legitimately, seeing as atheism i the belief of no god or goddess i is impossible to be religion, bhudism has not god but it has Bhuda

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It doesn't make since to me atheist don't believe nothing so why make a temple when there isn't no one to worship that will bring you peace.

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Worship knowledge/science? :)

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Neither of those matter to me it's definitely not about science because that is lies from lost men theories and the knowledge part is not about that neither it is about having a strong relationship with the one true God Jesus Christ.

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That does not even make much sense. A temple is for is visited when you have to worship someone/something. The religion/belief of 'Atheism' is specifically for those who do not worship anything. what would they do at a temple???? The temple would be empty anyway.

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Worship knowledge/science? :)

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