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Its blasphemy for a gay to say he Is Christian
First of all God hates gay act.
He destroy two cities filled with gays. Its just so disgusting to him.
Its filth to the "HOLY SPIRIT".
And calling yourself christian means christ follower.
First he came to do the will of God(who hates Gay).
Therefore if you follow christ you follow God. If you know Christ you know God.
Christ was a teacher of Morality.
And also
“Jesus answered, ‘Have you not read that the One who made them at the beginning made them male and female, and said, “For this reason a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife and the two shall become one flesh”.
While Christianity does divert MASSIVELY from the teachings of the bible I think its safe to say that the Christian faith does still deem it blasphemous. Its important to note though that homosexuality in the time of the new testament was more akin to pedophilia as men would take young boys as "Servants", that's the closer meaning of the word when the NT was written. So from a historical critical perspective the bible may not be as homophobic as the church.
Listen Monty, or is it Munty. The fact that you can even support this notion compromises your very nature of ideals. What sort of misogynistic, racist man do you have to be in order to support this. I feel, although not personally gay, that its our duty to stand up for those who are bounded to inferiority and discrimination due to their relationship status. For a while racism was seen as the "status Quo", now we reflect upon it as a time of great sorrow. This will be the same for homosexuality. The sooner we free these men and women from the shackles of oppression, the better.
What you are sayng is the same things pedophiles are saying about their attraction to children. They realize they can not act on their attrctions, but like Homosexuals say they are born that way and therefore makes their attraction ok and natural.
Please don't insult the intellegence of others to compare skin color with abnormal sexual orientations. There is nothng abnormal about a person's skin color.
Slavery and racism were an evil against people merely because of their skin color. No one is supporting treating Gays as inferior or in such terrible ways.
These LGBT activists are trying to force their extreme agendas on all Americans. They even want to force every public school to allow boys in our daughter's bathrooms. They have become radical as with most Liberal causes.
When the bible clearly states its opinion of gay, and you proudly call yourself gay and yet say you are christian, that is mockery of christianity and Blasphemy before the God who burnt down two cities full of gay for being gay sake.
The whole essence of the catholic church stems from its roots; a money laundering monopoly. Since the beginning, the poor peasants were tricked into a blind faith which was not understood by them. The catholic church held back decades of intelligence by confining Copernicus to a dungeon and Galileo to his house.
And now, with incidences such as the mass abuse of thousands of children across Boston more recently than we like to believe, the catholic church condemns homosexuality. To in fact have the audacity to condemn love between the same gender, when the history of Christianity is stained with death, discrimination and injustice.
For me, in order to preach Mathew's saying "love thy neighbor" yet condemn the love between two people of the same gender is hypocrisy at its finest.
You beat about the bush with some irrelevant talks Catholic church, mass abuse of people, money laundering and so many other nonsense that has nothing to do with this topic.
Just go straight to the point 'Gay'.
What the hell was all that? I just saw it.
Love thy neighbour?
When are you people going to use that quote sensibly; ever? And not in such a stupid way.
You get one verse in the bible and thats it.(Satan can do better)
Alright Jeff mate, clearly you are some die hard Christian who disputes against empiricle science and well... logic, reason and generally everything that makes sense in this universe. Clearly you are blinded by the "glorious" light of "God" that you can't see past the truth, he Catholic Church was a money making scheme for the peasants of 1300 England. From this, I say they can jolly well bugger off when they condem homosexuality. Absolute hypocrites, and don't disregard the fact that thousands of Christian priests have been imprisoned due to the abuse of young children, specifically boys. The height of hypocrisy.
So let's see , so far you've stated on here that you don't like :
Atheists
Free thinkers
Catholics
Homosexuals
Lesbians
Whites ( you called them pigs )
Euoropeans
Sex outside marriage
Women's rights
Subjective morality
Evolution ( rubbish according to you )
Street magicians ( especially dynamo in leauge with demons )
Single parent families
Pregnancy outside marriage
I could go on and on as you hate everything and anyone that does not fit with your extremely narrow world view , you're a hater plain and simple ... simple is also referring to your mentality :)
Lesbians~ i only think they are idiots because i don't understand what they say they do.
Whites ( you called them pigs )~ because you called blacks chimps. You triggered it with a head start.
Euoropeans~ what did i say about them?i don't remember.
Sex outside marriage~ i never addressed that.
Women's rights~ pls cite my exact words.
Subjective morality~ huh?
Evolution ( rubbish according to you )~Exactly
Street magicians ( especially dynamo in leauge with demons )~ i said i see a possibility of it being real because i have had experience with people who do it for real.
Single parent families~ me?
Pregnancy outside marriage~me?
"I could go on and on as you hate everything"
You like to talk about me a lot, huh!
Why don't you talk about your stage magic adventures when you one day mistakenly did a permanent brain freezing trick which led you to retirement? That should be more interesting!! My story is way too boring.
"you're a hater plain and simple ... simple is also referring to your mentality :)"
My hate(s) are just opinions, i never act on them.
You should read it eleven times, now. Or it is not compulsory to get what i was saying. No one is going to deduct it out of your salary if you dont. Right?
If you're going to mention me you know what follows ,again you resort to insult by again calling me ' so called ' you truly are a nasty person, you're a coward , a liar , and a hater which you call opinions ... go ahead hate everyone you're very good at it .
You understood perfectly what i meant by that and you are trying to play idiot.........go ahead, i won't stop you from exercising your right to idiocy.
Your hates are just opinions , yes well keep your hateful opinions to yourself .
So you hate whites because you claim I called blacks 'chimps ' ?
So I actually made you say and think you hate whites over something I allegedly said ?
My I'm powerful and to correct you yet again I did not call blacks chimps , I called you a chimp and I also said an uneducated one , as you behave like a chimp and indeed have more or less the same standard of intelligence .
I applaud the fact you don't act on your hates ( which you admit )
Is it blasphemous for a liar, adulterer, murderer, or thief to claim to be a Christian? Given that a part of Christianity is recognizing one's failings, I'd say that possessing said failings does not exclude one from practicing it.
Yes christianity recognises one's failings. But those are people willing to change for the better. Am talking about an unrepentant gay knowing clearly God hates 'gay'.
Ah. Assuming unrepentance, I completely agree with you. Homosexuality is sinful according to the Bible, and thus, when accepted, is inherently contradictory to Christianity.
Yet there are Christian(christ follower) Pastors blessing gay marriages in the name of God(the one who hates gay). And they call themselves leaders. Leading us to God. God is very tolerant.
Doesn't the bible say we should be our brother's keeper?
Sin is like a disease that is why God gives us laws as medication for temporal treatment not cure.
And gays refuse to take their medication and embrace their sickness and justify it in many stupid or absurd ways.
The bible says:
When I say to a wicked person, 'You will surely die,' and you do not warn them or speak out to dissuade them from their evil ways in order to save their life, that wicked person will die for their sin, and I will hold you accountable for their blood.
What are you taking about, clearly you need to change your attitudes. I presume you believe in god, thus you believe in gods benevolence, thus, you must also believe that god loves all, Galatians 3:28
28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus. Boom sold get outa here
"'If a man has sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They are to be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads."
So galatians3:28 does not affect gays not ready to repent.
When God wanted to burn down sodom and gomorrah, he gave them the chance you talk about it Galatians.
He wanted only 10 repented or righteous men ....he never had them....
The weren't worth calling God's people.
God was so disgusted in Gay that he had to take care of it himself.....
So no idiot of a gay not willing to repent can call himself a follower of the son of God.
christian wise....your argument is not sensible....
Don't try to inject worldly logic into God's laws...
I see you quited down some people and you now bring it to me....
You are dealing with the wrong....
I don't condone stupidity(Gay)
Quoting a bible verse that does not relate or deviating is a useless argument. Even the devil knows the bible better so am not surprised
Alright Jeff, you know your stuff! However, according Kant's theory of natural law, an "is" is not always a "must". That is men and women seem to be the "status quo", however, its not a must. To elaborate, just because men and women seem to be made for each other, it doesn't mean they must be together. So to conclude Jeff, you homophobic helmet, Neo said "what it seems is not always is". BOOM SOLD SLAM DUNK, YOU HAVE JUST BEEN OWNED
"To elaborate, just because men and women seem to be made for each other, it doesn't mean they must be together."
So you know what was made for what.
So why do you want to go against the geniusism design and order of nature If not for a fault somewhere in your natural makeup........maybe homonally or mentally?
Meaning you are sick and you need help. But you seem to enjoy your sickness and after all treatment is not a must. Its your life and choice.
Many gays do not realise they are sick though.
They don't realise there is fault somewhere. They think its normal.
Mad men(aggressive) even think they are alright. Gay is just another form. Just that they are not aggressive.
If I was gay I wouldn't feel too bad about some people saying I couldn't be a Christian. I'm an Atheist and I don't feel bad about it. Christianity is based on a book that was written (pieced together), thousands of years after the ... er..."fact", with whatever could be scrounged up AS "fact". Nobody really knows bumpkus about what a Christian is. It's the "opinion" of a self appointed majority in particular religions that designate, what THEY say, is a Christian.
Okay. I'm a shameful, blasphemous, devil posing as a human being with my tail on fire ... but if I thought I was a Christian, I'd BE one, whether YOU liked it or NOT! (Just like Hitler thought HE was!) But I'm a much nicer guy ... really. I just don't agree with any particular religion! Da devil made me do it! ;-)
"Christianity is based on a book that was written (pieced together), thousands of years after the ... er..."fact", with whatever could be scrounged up AS "fact". Nobody really knows bumpkus about what a Christian is. "
I now know why you are atheist.
"I just don't agree with any particular religion! Da devil made me do it! ;-)"
Cute, but, as an Atheist I have no "master". According to Christianity, GOD "created" Satan. Since I don't believe in this "god" , I can't believe in HIS mythical "creation". As I said, I can't follow ANYTHING I don't believe in.
That was a joke line from a comedian (probably before your time), I think it was on "Laugh In". I don't believe in any of those mythological entities, "Da Devil" being only one of them.
1. That church took the word from the bible. I have a bible.
2.Have heard where in the bible women are not allowed to speak in the church?, A weak minded woman being decieved by the serpent(how can she lead a church), I haven't yet seen the bible mention female angel, Do you know Adam was created as the main deal of the plan untill he felt bored being alone and eve created as a helper(not the real deal)....etc.
Set~ Man
Sub(missive)~Wo
Subset~Woman
Outta of a set~ outta Man
Its the hard truth.
Jesus only stayed true to the plan from day one.
Gods relations has been with:
Adam, Noah, Abraham, Isaac, Ismael, Joseph,Moses, Joshua, Samuel,Saul,David, Solomon, Jesus: his disciples all male. Is God gay to too? This actually shows the ways of God(father) and Jesus(son) are the same cos they share a common plan. Same God today, tomorrow and forever more. He won't change his mind no matter how you debate it.
You can't question God cos He is God.
He sits up in the heavens and does what he pleases.
3. I never said gay is unforgivable. All sins are forgivable. Am talking about a gay who is not ready to repent. I think its more of mockery.
You can't keep punching me in face and keep saying sorry when you enjoy doing it and will do it again after saying sorry.
4. So as i said blasphemy more like a mockery kind of way. If you really want to know how much gay disgusts God, refer to the bible.
5. People are always denouncing christianity. I think its better to denounce than stay and make a gay mockery of God.
So you're a misogynist and a homophobe? Lovely. I think Grenache may have been onto something by comparing you to Westboro.
The Bible says those things about women because it is a thousands of years old book written in a time where women were treated like property. Women's authority and place in the world was undermined prior to the Bible being written; the book is simply regurgitating those misogynistic values.
Yes you're right this ' beauty ' fits all these labels and he also supported rapists the other day , he's a nasty piece of work and I treat it accordingly
Yes indeed it was in a topic about abortion where he said women if raped should still have the child thus ignoring totally the suffering a women would go through , he then kindly said he wouldn't mind if a woman stabbed a man in the neck for raping her but she should have the child .
His idiocy is the stuff of legend he believes
.. dynamo the magician is in league with demons like all street magicians
Evolution is nonsense
Homosexuality is a disease
The theory regarding the speed of light is in error and he has a proof ( unpublished as yet )
He says let him know where i said all that ...so he knows exactly what i said...i mean my idiocy in its full glory...go ahead and do that and quit your tirade.
Lyrics ? I'm not writing a song ....your idiocy is all over the site so there plenty to pick from isn't there ?
The problem here is you're a cretin , so the best company for you are fellow cretins who speak the same nonsense ' fortunately ' for you your envirionment seems to be virtually crawling with cretins who accept you nonsense as ' gems of wisdom '
How are your ' papers' coming along regards ' debunking ' Evolution and the speed of light ? :)
Interesting. You demonstrate extremely misogynistic views for a non-misogynist.
The definition of homphobe needs editing to fit what you ask of me....
A person who dislikes or is opposed to homosexuality and homosexuals.
The rest of your comment is completely incomprehensible so I shan't even attempt to answer it. I'm sure English is your second or third language so I suppose that's not really your fault.
"Interesting. You demonstrate extremely misogynistic views for a non-misogynist."
i have my views....and its not hatred...haven't i been in places with females or you mean i have no female friends.
"A person who dislikes or is opposed to homosexuality and homosexuals."
Yes but to some extent and with some exceptions.
I just don't follow the crowd...i hate things for my personal reasons...its just similar to the crowd
"The rest of your comment is completely incomprehensible so I shan't even attempt to answer it. I'm sure English is your second or third language so I suppose that's not really your fault."
So i made a typing error and did not check but submitted immediately because my battery was at 1% and you go ahead and make blind conclusions.......
Just so you know.....
I can verbally make out four types of english speaking......depending on where i find myself
Pidgin(2types and learning a third one)
The standard english here....
African American english(from movies and rap songs....and thats how i even rap)
What are these "personal reasons"? Did a gay man murder your family, so now you take it out on all gays?
So i made a typing error
You consistently make spelling mistakes, miss apostrophes, fail to capitalise and just have awful grammar in general. That is not a typing error.
There is no problem with English being your second/third/fourth/whatever language, don't be ashamed.
African American english
You mean slang?
from movies and rap songs
You're bragging about knowing African American slang, which you have learnt from films and from rap songs? You realise pretty much anyone can do that, right?
I do hope you don't actually attempt to speak like that to any African Americans. Although the thought of them laughing in your face after you try to speak their "lingo" does amuse me.
Growing up, i have noticed certain necessary developments in human gets shortened quickly for females whiles males go a little bit further....
Its my observations...don't know if anyone else has, but am not willing to share or explain....and its not hate....its understanding...
"What are these "personal reasons"? Did a gay man murder your family, so now you take it out on all gays?"
Does that sound logical to yourself?
"You consistently make spelling mistakes, miss apostrophes, fail to capitalise and just have awful grammar in general. That is not a typing error."
Have you seen the correction?....is it comprehendable?
And english is the easiest foreign language i ever learnt.
I could speak english before i went to school....
I got bored with learning english rules because i thought it was absurd that i had to learn it.
Yet i had 'A' in my final year examination on my basic certificate.....
I got motivated the more that english was stupid ...
And in my senior high i had no respect for English...never listened in class. For three years and my english notebook wasn't filled up to half of it.
Yet at the end i had grade 'C', even that i blame on .....(not worth mentioning)..
I wrote an english exam recently and i had 'B'.
My lecturer is white.
Are you blue?
"There is no problem with English being your second/third/fourth/whatever language, don't be ashamed."
Another stupid talk.
Ashamed of not speaking someone's language well? Are you serious?
Plus there is nothing formal about these debates that put me in a must write good english situation.
I hardly check for errors talkless of punctuations or apostrophes.
"You're bragging about knowing African American"
Why do you call it a brag while i mentioned other types of the english language too?
Is it worth worshipping?
I guess to you then, thats why you call it brag.
"I do hope you don't actually attempt to speak like that to any African Americans. "
You mean i never met an african american before?
When i was a kid, i once helped a scammer communicate with a white friend in an internet cafe and people were surprised at how i was communicating so fluently, with how i utter my words with accents they never expected i could utter. They were expecting me to speak in our standard english language at most.
English...is fuck. And i do it how i want it when i want it and wherever i want it.
"You're tragic."
Take a look at my profile picture.
Its a design i was trying to do of a project am about. Am not the real designer but i was just practising.
Its about a record label gathering all types of talents from ages between 0-23, with rap talent as our priority.
Do you know how many rap talents i have on my label?
And do you know how many who rap like that?
And you wouldn't even realise just by hearing that the person speaking is not actually african american.
Growing up, i have noticed certain necessary developments in human gets shortened quickly for females whiles males go a little bit further....
Care to elaborate your bullshit, or is it just that, bullshit?
Please, explain these "developments".
Does that sound logical to yourself?
No. But neither does hating gays for "personal reasons" without actually saying what these "personal reasons" are.
And english is the easiest foreign language i ever learnt.
Then why do you constantly make grammatical and spelling errors?
Getting high grades in your exams is not proof of your good English (especially since you're obviously in a non-European country, so standards would be far lower). Writing good English is proof of your good English. And you do not write good English.
I'm literally telling you that there is no problem with you having broken English since it is obviously your secondary language, yet you're still obsessing over it and claiming you have perfect English (which you don't). I don't care how bad your English is if it's your second language, because that's perfectly acceptable.
Why do you call it a brag while i mentioned other types of the english language too?
The other types you mentioned were different varieties of English. African American English is slang - a subcategory of American English. It is not the same as the other two.
i once helped a scammer communicate
So you think homosexuality and women speaking in Churches is immoral, but you're perfectly happy to help out a scammer? You need to sort your morals out, mate.
Its about a record label gathering all types of talents from ages between 0-23, with rap talent as our priority.
Do you know how many rap talents i have on my label?
And do you know how many who rap like that?
And you wouldn't even realise just by hearing that the person speaking is not actually african american.
So what nonsense was that?
I'm sorry. I didn't realise you were a rap prodigy.
"No. But neither does hating gays for "personal reasons" without actually saying what these "personal reasons" are."
'Must' i defend my reasons before you so pass it as a law? No right?
"I don't care how bad your English is if it's your second language, because that's perfectly acceptable."
My pastor is American, i communicate with him; rarely though.
My english lecturer is American.
What standard are you talking about?Anyway i don't care. Just another bullshit. all i was saying is i am not under any compulsion on CD to go by any formalities.
Plus am not here to impress anyone.
I do formal writings and am careful with them.
"women speaking in Churches is immoral,"
Immoral? Who said that?
"but you're perfectly happy to help out a scammer? You need to sort your morals out, mate"
I was just about 13 or 14 and was just doing a favour of talking a german lady, pretending to be a son to that guy who assigned me.
I wasn't famaliar with what scam was, and didn't realise that was what that guy was doing then.
You need to work on your debating ' skills ' ... just saying :)
So no music release yet ?
Shyness seems to be the reason and wasn't that the same reason you used for not publishing your groundbreaking papers on the speed of light and Evolution ?
"You need to work on your debating ' skills ' ... just saying :)"
Thanks for the advice Dermot, but you'd like to keep it to yourself and work on your frozen brain.
"So no music release yet ?"
Do you know how many who are talented and still do nothing about it?
Am a business student, for a "frozen brain" sake, and my project is just business as well.
Is it compulsory to make or release a song of myself? I have apps for making , correcting, converting, recording, and compressing sounds. Microphones, loud speakers etc.
But it's not necessary.
You just don't release anything. You have to plan everthing first: the what, when and how.
Does that penerate your ice brain?
"the same reason you used for not publishing your groundbreaking papers on the speed of light and Evolution ?"
You say this as if i own the world an explanation.
Many people are aware of what i claim just they don't have the scientific aspect of it.
If God created us, then it transpires that He created gays.
Why would God create gay people if he hates them? You can't bring up the "freewill" argument here, because homosexuality is not a choice - so pray tell, why do gay people exist if they are blasphemous?
If God is all-powerful then it makes no sense that his creations would be corrupted. Fair enough if free will corrupts - but homosexuality is not linked with free will. One does not choose to be gay.
Assuming God exists, he must have created the concept of homosexuality. How would it exist if He, the ultimate creator, did not plant the initial seeds for it?
"If God is all-powerful then it makes no sense that his creations would be corrupted. "
That is the most stupid assertion i have noticed so far that you made......
If God is all powerful? What do you understand by all powerful.....and what has being powerful got to do with your creations getting corrupted?
Do you understand "got corrupted"....was made originally safe and later got bad?
We are not here to win an argument....especially with nonsense so i lose my grip.....
Analyse that question again....
We are here for the logical truth....
Not condoning stupid things with some words that don't even relate...
"Assuming God exists, he must have created the concept of homosexuality. How would it exist if He, the ultimate creator, did not plant the initial seeds for it?"
Ah. What concept....what nonsense are you still insisting.....
Then why would God kill Gays just for being gay not any other sin but specifically that.
Hypothetical imaginations about God.....
You even don't know Him....
But because word God is so common, everyone thinks he has on opinion on God...
I didn't want to answer because i thought your questions weren't related or sensible...considering the topic of discussion
No, you don't want to answer because you don't know. You preach this crap but cannot explain why you do other than "it's in the Bible". Think for yourself you moron.
If God is all powerful, then he has infinite power. A being with infinite power should be able to eliminate corruption. If God cannot protect from corruption, then He is not all powerful. Don't you see the glaringly obvious contradiction? How can you claim God is all powerful and all knowing when he can't even make His creations the way he wants them to be?
You can argue that God allows evil because he wants us to have free will. But you cannot argue that God allows homosexuals to exist because he wants us to have free will. Homosexuality, for the third or however many time, is not a choice.
It just so happened that something went wrong somehere in the brain and homones in the process of development.
And my point is that if God is some all-powerful super saiyan then he would not rig his creations to go wrong in the first place. How thick do you have to be to not understand this?
Sodom and Gomorrah, the basic story. God sent two angels to find at least 10 good people. Lot met with them and took them in his home. At night men of Sodom came to Lot's house and said "Where are the men which came in to thee this night? Bring them out unto us, that we may know them."
I think everyone agrees that these men were talking about rape and their desire to cruelly and maliciously rape these men. Now if you take a step back and look at the history, the history shows that gang rape was a common form of brutal humiliation, something that both sociologist and historians agree on. These men weren't coming to the angels to show love, they were there to show force, to brutally humiliate and aggressively show dominance to the "foreigners" in their town.
The final recap of Sodom and Gomorrah is, I believe Ezekial 16:49.
""'Now this was the sin of your sister Sodom: She and her daughters were arrogant, overfed and unconcerned; they did not help the poor and needy."
Not that men had tried to rape angels, though that is plenty bad enough, but that God despised the greed and wickedness of the people in the cities and their unwillingness to help outsiders.
There is a HUGE difference between two men coming together in love and unity and men threatening to rape someone else.
Incorrect. The final message at the end of the story is that the sin of Sodom was arrogance, and lack of caring, "they did not help the poor and needy."
It wasn't that those wicked men wanted to just "sleep with the angels" ...did you read what I posted? They wanted to RAPE them, to humiliate and dominate those they saw as foreigners. Homosexuality wasn't the cause at all, it was the wickedness in the hearts of those who would see others who had no connection to the land suffer; those who wouldn't help the poor and the needy, whose hearts were full of greed.
Because you are doesn't mean it should be accepted. I mean who are you? A god? You have the same sinful blood as everyone else. You get yourself in a stupid addictive mess and you justify it and still say you are christian, are you the new jesus? Should we follow you as an example? A true christian will look for spiritual satisfaction not multiple fleshy satisfactions. I won't be shocked to know you are even a paedophile or even sleep with animals (Don't say ewww cos thats how much your bisexualness disgusts me).
All these sexual things are all of fleshy demands. Do you know there is not such thing in heaven? Paul says in: 1 Corinthians 7New International Version (NIV)
Concerning Married Life
7 Now for the matters you wrote about: “It is good for a man not to have sexual relations with a woman.” 2 But since sexual immorality is occurring, each man should have sexual relations with his own wife, and each woman with her own husband.
Paul was even saying we should not have sexual relations but to prevent sexual immorality, we should marry(a woman.). And you crossed the boundry to the bisexual land and yet call yourself christian? Follower of which christ? Yourself christ?
Wow such a nice christian fellowship. Where self justification will set you free from all your sins and you shall forever burn in paradise.
Ah. Do you understand that verse you used there? Yes jesus saved a prostitute. After jesus saved that woman what did he ask her to do? Is it in your bible? Jesus hates sin not the sinner true. And he will always give you a chance if you confess your sins, feel ashamed and willing to repent of your sins. That woman was ready to repent ; are you? No no no. You justify your sins. I thought the closer you get to light the filthier you realise you are. But you are getting neater the closer you get to the light(jesus). 2018 i think you will become a saint.
Keep on justifying your sins untill God cannot differentiate you from your sins. And when He comes to destroy sin, He will surely destroy you with it. Don't say am judging ok.
And so? The founders are sinful mortals like me and you. You might even be wiser than them. You just haven't met any of them in person.
Because they have written books or have a website does not mean its devine or endorsed by God. Even satan used the word of God in an attempt to persuade christ(the one we follow).
You and i can write a book and also own a website about christianity.
It doesn't mean God approves of what we are doing there.
Read the bible not an acclaimed devine book.
I think they are self justifying sinners just like you. They just have an upgrade level and a strong foundation.(Because of how they present it to the public) However does not mean its approved by God. Its just a stupid doctrine to me.
They are making sinners feel good about themselves so they have a crowd to themselves. A church of self justification
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But warn you, christianity has never been about the crowd. It has always been about the narrow road. And the crowded road where everyone seems to be at, leads to hell. They are just gathering multitudes of self justified people to hell.
Read about trying your best to be perfect(not self justification way)
You are not making sense. You don't understand the text. Is that your defence? By even saying that you have declared your act of gay is sin and if there is someone who does not let him cast the first stone.
You have declared your act sin. And you not willing to stop it. You are fooling yourself with that verse. The casting of stone represents judgement. Meaning been condemned to death . Even God has already given that judgement all gays should be killed and he gave an example in sodom and gomorrah.
◄ Leviticus 20:13 ►
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If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination; they shall surely be put to death; their blood is upon them"
So you see you have already been sentenced to death.
Am not the one casting the stone.
Just repent and you say no.
Jesus saved the woman and gave her a chance of repentance saying go and sin no more.
John 8:9-11New International Version (NIV)
9 At this, those who heard began to go away one at a time, the older ones first, until only Jesus was left, with the woman still standing there. 10 Jesus straightened up and asked her, “Woman, where are they? Has no one condemned you?”
11 “No one, sir,” she said.
“Then neither do I condemn you,” Jesus declared. “Go now and leave your life of sin.”
Leave your life of sin. He didn't save her so she can go and continue sinning and then guard her immoral act with "let he who is without sin cast the first stone".
Jesus is not stupid. You will surely die if you do not repent. You are filthy and you call yourself christ (the light) follower. Its blasphemy.
Can't you see your filth in his light?
This is what happens to filth
11 And when the king came in to see the guests, he saw there a man which had not on a wedding garment:
12 And he saith unto him, Friend, how camest thou in hither not having a wedding garment? And he was speechless.
13 Then said the king to the servants, Bind him hand and foot, and take him away, and cast him into outer darkness, there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.
A sin to be tempted? Says who? It says we should resist temptation. You can do so with the word of God in your mind. Jesus was tempted with all the powers and riches of the earth and resisted with the word of God. But you cannot resist simple lustful desires(the word of God is available).
Eh, I am saving myself for marriage...to a man. I would rather marry a man due to my private, personal beliefs on sexuality. What other people do is none of my business. :)
That makes a difference(not acting on it). You have cruxified the flesh.
But i don't understand why you defended it so much even though you don't act on it. You actually know within yourself its sin that why you don't act on it
Galatians 5:24 ►
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Those who belong to Christ Jesus have crucified the flesh with its passions and desires.
But if its because you haven't met anyone to exercise it with yet....meaning its on pending lol....then there is also a difference
The word of God has already declared it abomination. Abomination which will corrupt the other seeds in the church. And it says we should be our brothers keeper. Am guarding my brothers from abominations or corruptions before the time of harvest. And sometimes to save, you must rebuke.
The word of God? Or the word of man claiming to speak on God's behalf.
God has told us to hold out our hands and help others, to accept, to teach, to love. Man has done and said the opposite to further his own propaganda. You decide who you chose to follow.
"'If a man has sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They are to be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads.
The word of God says
Genesis 4:9 ►
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Then the LORD said to Cain, "Where is your brother Abel?" "I don't know," he replied. "Am I my brother's keeper?"
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Afterward the LORD asked Cain, "Where is your brother? Where is Abel?" "I don't know," Cain responded. "Am I my brother's guardian?"
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Then the LORD said to Cain, “Where is Abel your brother?” He said, “I do not know; am I my brother’s keeper?”
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Then the LORD said to Cain, "Where is Abel your brother?" And he said, "I do not know. Am I my brother's keeper?"
King James Bible
And the LORD said unto Cain, Where is Abel thy brother? And he said, I know not: Am I my brother's keeper?
Holman Christian Standard Bible
Then the LORD said to Cain, "Where is your brother Abel?"" I don't know," he replied. "Am I my brother's guardian?"
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Later, the LORD asked Cain, "Where's your brother Abel?" "I don't know," he answered. "Am I my brother's guardian?"
NET Bible
Then the LORD said to Cain, "Where is your brother Abel?" And he replied, "I don't know! Am I my brother's guardian?"
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The LORD said to Cain, "Where is Abel, your brother?" He said, "I do not know. Am I my brother's keeper?"
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The LORD asked Cain, "Where is your brother Abel?" "I don't know," he answered. "Am I supposed to take care of my brother?"
JPS Tanakh 1917
And the LORD said unto Cain: 'Where is Abel thy brother?' And he said: 'I know not; am I my brother's keeper?'
New American Standard 1977
Then the LORD said to Cain, “Where is Abel your brother?” And he said, “I do not know. Am I my brother’s keeper?”
Jubilee Bible 2000
And the LORD said unto Cain, Where is Abel thy brother? And he said, I know not, Am I my brother's keeper?
King James 2000 Bible
And the LORD said unto Cain, Where is Abel your brother? And he said, I know not: Am I my brother's keeper?
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And the LORD said to Cain, Where is Abel your brother? And he said, I know not: Am I my brother's keeper?
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And Jehovah said unto Cain, Where is Abel thy brother? And he said, I know not: am I my brother's keeper?
Douay-Rheims Bible
And the Lord said to Cain: Where is thy brother Abel? And he answered, I know not: am I my brother's keeper?
Darby Bible Translation
And Jehovah said to Cain, Where is Abel thy brother? And he said, I know not: am I my brother's keeper?
English Revised Version
And the LORD said unto Cain, Where is Abel thy brother? And he said, I know not: am I my brother's keeper?
Webster's Bible Translation
And the LORD said to Cain, Where is Abel thy brother? And he said, I know not: Am I my brother's keeper?
World English Bible
Yahweh said to Cain, "Where is Abel, your brother?" He said, "I don't know. Am I my brother's keeper?"
God asks us of brothers
Here again.....
Matthew 13:30 ►
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Let both grow together until the harvest. At that time I will tell the harvesters: First collect the weeds and tie them in bundles to be burned; then gather the wheat and bring it into my barn.
I don't like to be aggressive with you. Had it been any of my usuals(attekers), This argument will be over with by now.
Am just being gentle. It doesn't mean you are persusding me.
Leviticus? Seriously? One simply needs to look at all that is punishable or illegal in Leviticus. Eating shellfish, eating pork, carelessly making an oath, touching an unclean animal (carcass). Eating fat or blood, spreading slander, bearing a grudge, mixing fabrics, planting different seeds in the same field...the list goes on and on.
The problem with Leviticus is people cherry pick what they want to follow and what they deem obsolete. At the time it was a set of rules to keep people in line.
The greatest commandment?
Matthew 22:34-40. Or to paraphrase:
"37 Jesus replied: “‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.’[a] 38 This is the first and greatest commandment. 39 And the second is like it: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’[b] 40 All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments.”
I appreciate you being gentle in a respectful debate, I hope you understand that disagreement doesn't mean attack.
"But when the king came in to see the guests, he noticed a man there who was not wearing wedding clothes.
He asked, 'How did you get in here without wedding clothes, friend?' The man was speechless
Then the king told the attendants, 'Tie him hand and foot, and throw him outside, into the darkness, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.'
Are we talking about the same God who asks us to teach about love?
If God said so, he refers to someone ready to repent. The beginning of salvation is first accepting that you are a sinner. If you justify your sins and you shamelessly enter God's party in the name of God is all loving, you will surely end up like that guy. If everyone is okay, then why did jesus come?
When jesus saved the prostitute, ain't it a way of showing love? But what did he telll her later?"Go and sin no more"
If you want to take God's love and being linient, you will surely see His other side, His intolerance for sin or filth. God used to kill sinners instantly untill jesus came. Don't you ever think God is stupid so you can use His own words to justify your sins. Even satan knows the bible better. And you are in no position to discredit leviticus
So you question Jesus when his second most important commandment is to love your neighbor as you would love yourself? Who are you to question Jesus? Who are you to judge or condemn? God is the one who will meet the sinners and judge what is in their hearts. Until then, we are not to take His place in doing so.
When did i question jesus? I questioned you "after jesus saved the prostitute, what did he tell her later?". And i answered it my self saying, "Go and sin no more" . And now you talk about commandments? Are many of the commandments not from leviticus? An you discard the one which says gay should be killed because you don't like that one. If you believe in commandments, you either take it whollyor leave it. Don't choose the ones you don't like because it is inconvinient for you when going fleshy sinful desires.
And bear in mind the difference between rebuke and judgement.
Rebuke is very key in the christian fellowship. Take it or leave it.
If you do nothing wrong in your own mind, why do get worried about what people say. Why do you defend yourself if there is nothing to defend yourself from?
There are 4 passages within the Bible that condemns homosexuals. One is Genesis and one in Leviticus. Now the Old Testament is "Yawehism"- a dead religion and not Christian so I will ignore these passages. The New Testament still includes 2 however. But do these really condemn homosexuals?
Romans (1:26- 27): This passage is first of all not uttered by Jesus, our first red flag. Paul's views are relics of Yawehism and are sometimes different from the son of God himself. Furthermore, Romans is a letter to, surprisingly enough, the Romans. The context is in fact that of RITUALISTIC homosexual acts. The sin Paul is condemning is actually IDOLATRY and not homosexuality. This passage is used by Jesus's critics often, but it is taken well out of context.
Corinthians (6:9): This passage has been recently shown to have been edited. Earlier manuscripts of this passage show that "prostitution" is the condemned sin rather than "homosexuality". In Greek these words are similar and the mistake seems excusable, however it is a very big mistake none the less.
This is of course ignoring the hotly debated quote from the lord himself (Matthews 19:11-12) which states that 3 categories of "Eunuchs" are not subject to the law that Jesus outlines before this chapter, that lovemaking is for a man and a woman. He says those who are "born eunuch" are unable to follow this law and that is absolutely acceptable. Now that is interesting because nobody is born a eunuch. This phrase is actually a slang term among Jews, found in the Talmud also, as a term for GAY MEN. Personally I believe the reason that lesbians are not mentioned is because lesbians are technically unable to have sex.
Who are you or in what authority do you stand to declare the old testament dead? Its because of the old testament jesus came. It is the root of jesus. It the cause of jesus's coming. His coming was prophesied in the old testament. Are you saying everything about David, Solomon, Samuel, Elijah, Mosee, Abraham is irrelevant? Are you serious?Is that your best excuse for defending gay? The religion is dead..is the God of Abraham too dead? Do you not know its because of Him christ came? If there wasn't an old testaments of several convenants with God there would have never been a christ.
And when christ came he went back to them to save their souls.
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For this is the reason the gospel was preached even to those who are now dead, so that they might be judged according to human standards in regard to the body, but live according to God in regard to the spirit.
If they were dead and didn't matter, then why would jesus go back to preach to them?
But, more often than not, "God's love" is the kind most people would prefer to not partake in. Like those "GOD LOVING" parishioners in Carolina receiving the "love" in "God's House", those innocent "creations" in Sandy Hook that never got the chance to "sin". If that's a form of Gods love, maybe his hate would allow us to live longer in his "creation". :-(
God's love is what people make it out to be, not always what God does. At least that's my opinion. The people who claims they are speaking for God while they preach hate aren't speaking for God, just themselves.
Your "loving god" also turned a defenseless woman to stone (allegedly) for no more than weakening to her "god given" curiosity of what was going on behind her, Maybe a dangerous sinner was creeping up on her ... we'll never know, poor lady. Well, she got a piece of her unforgiving "god's love". I would never do a mean thing like that, even if I was GAY!
Why does a "book" that is supposed to express a "god's love", express so much hate? The Quran also. This only confirms the statement "Belief in a cruel god makes a cruel man." Also: "Religion causes us to hate others that we wouldn't normally hate."
I simply can't get into religion due to its hate and cruelty. "Men never commit evil so fully and joyfully than when they do it for religious convictions." If "God" created all of us, he created gays. YOU were not there to hear the words said (allegedly) against gays. You believe the words were said .... that's the definition of "hearsay"! The words were not a "signed Executive Order". NOBODY alive actually heard them "from the horses mouth" ... they likely came from an entity more closely resembling the other end.
"The Bible is what fools have written, what imbeciles command, What rogues teach and young children are made to learn by heart." (THAT IS signed: Voltaire) I prefer not to be Christian, OR others that find it so easy to hate.
Jesus ran around with 12 guys who worshiped him and talked about loving everyone. It seems being gay may be downright fundamentalist. Of course he did string along a prostitute to keep up appearances, so being out of the closet may be problematic.
But if you want to follow the example of Christ then closet homosexual is the way to be. And that seems every bit as relevant today, wouldn't you agree everyone who pretends outrage?
Why would it be when Jesus was openly gay and many Christians accept this as fact, what's the big deal what his sexuality was anyway except amongst haters like the guy who posted this question a notorious hater of anyone who is different .....
You Christians need to read your bible ( I know it back to front )
Bet you don't know what part of the bible the it is in 🙀
" When Jesus saw his mother and the disciple whom he loved standing near, he said to his mother, 'Woman behold your son!' Then he said to the disciple. 'Behold your mother!' And from that hour the disciple took her to his own home."
That disciple was John whom Jesus, the gospels affirm, loved in a special way. All the other disciples had fled in fear. Three women but only one man had the courage to go with Jesus to his execution. That man clearly had a unique place in the affection of Jesus. In all classic depictions of the Last Supper, a favourite subject of Christian art, John is next to Jesus, very often his head resting on Jesus's breast. Dying, Jesus asks John to look after his mother and asks his mother to accept John as her son. John takes Mary home. John becomes unmistakably part of Jesus's family.
Well if you feel that strongly about it maybe you should start applying it to your ' work ' as you obviously do not know the difference ; maybe you could apply your 'new ' skills in evaluating what I just relayed to you 😉
Your incoherent ramblings would have an effect on anyone's head ; and a further correction I'm applying ' ❄️ ice cold logic to your obviously heated commentary
I sometimes leave some lines out when i see it unecessary as common sense will take charge of it in the mind of the decoder. But then........
Now here we go:
He said, i 'believe' evolution implies humans will change to hamburgers.
"Even if" that were true, not that i believe so but that evolution says so, that would be just a slight portion of the information about the evolution theory.
Estimating 6% that's if it were true(included in the evolution theory)
And i replied, i don't believe in the evolution theory itself as a whole(100% of what it says).
Therefore it's not sensible for him to say i believe in some portion(6%) of it.
It was just a silly remark more like a suggestful question.
The intention is to make evolution sound stupid, not to say i 'believe' in people changing into hamburgers.
You say .....I didn't know common sense was that scarce..... that's because you're not self aware otherwise the veracity of your statement would have brought an ' insight ' into your poor besieged cranium .
Again , I'm not talking so your question is incorrectly worded , I'm typing words to your zoo keeper who is signing them to you thus your confusion 😂😂😂👋👋👋👏👏👏��👏👏👏
No it's not my ' cup,of tea ' you told everyone on CD you were gay will I post it up again ? Or is it still an ' error ' I don't care if you're fucking gay , why do you keep telling me .... go away tell someone else ...
"" I don't believe in Evolution at all.... except , that humans will become "
I don't recall saying this any where ,you two pathological liars.
If you want to prove it.
Drop the link of the exact place i said it because even though i don't believe i said that, i have looked through several posts and couldn't find these exact words.
It looked similar to something but then not the same....edited
"then you said you were gay didn't you ?"
Yes i mistakenly did. Because i did not read your comment meticulously as i usually don't. And i upon your second reply, i went back to check what you were really saying in the previous one, and it was then i realised the mistake.
I told you it was a mistake but then you refused to take my correction.....and took it the way you enjoy to believe.
Are we indeed ? But yet you admitted I was right on the post where I said you were gay ?
So your saying what ?
From day one you've lied on CD ... so here you are you pathological liar admitting you're gay ' by mistake ' and claiming that humans become .... hamburgers 🍔🍔 so a gay hamburger lover ....🤔.....
Your words buddy
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"also you're so anti gay I bet you're .... gay 💃"
Ain't that obvious enough? And am i supposed to be afraid to say my opinions?
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"I didn't say such a thing. You know what that translates to?"
You're boring
"I don't believe in evolution at all except that humans will become hamburgers because of it"
I don't know why you've been forcing words on me.......severally.
Why?
Thats my problem with you.
And sometimes you also deviate off topic.
Recently dermot gets it before you do and am surprised; i thought you were supposed to be the megamind and he the ice brain...megamind do you need any extras? Apparently it seems the mind is mega empty.
My incompetence leaking? When you are the one i have to re~explain things that others already comprehend to you.
Your problem is you don't follow conversations from the start, you just jump to the latest posts....and merely understand what was really the bases for the argument....yet you ask confident questions and when you don't get reply, you think the fault is from my side...
And so annoying when i have to explain everything again from head to tail.
