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 Jesus was a horse thief should he have been lynched ? (43)

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Jesus was a horse thief should he have been lynched ?

Here is a description of Jesus and his crew stealing a colt , that's a hanging offence...  hang  them high ..... 
19:29 And it came to pass, when he was come nigh to Bethphage and Bethany, at the mount called the mount of Olives, he sent two of his disciples,
19:30 Saying, Go ye into the village over against you; in the which at your entering ye shall find a colt tied, whereon yet never man sat: loose him, and bring him hither. 
19:31 And if any man ask you, Why do ye loose him? thus shall ye say unto him, Because the Lord hath need of him. 
19:32 And they that were sent went their way, and found even as he had said unto them. 
19:33 And as they were loosing the colt, the owners thereof said unto them, Why loose ye the colt? 
19:34 And they said, The Lord hath need of him. 
19:35 And they brought him to Jesus: and they cast their garments upon the colt, and they set Jesus thereon. 
19:36 And as he went, they spread their clothes in the way.



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He was lynched, just not hung.

Dermot(1790) Disputed
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It's hilarious how many things you get consistently wrong ,

lɪn(t)ʃ/

verb

past tense: lynched; past participle: lynched

(of a group of people) kill (someone) for an alleged offence without a legal trial, especially by hanging.

"her father had been lynched by whites"

synonyms: hang, hang by the neck; More

Mint_tea(981) Disputed
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Lynching isn't always only by hanging. It's the "preferred" method but not the only one.

Sitar(2752) Disputed
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He was crucified for our sins...................................................................

Dermot(1790) Disputed
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For your sins maybe as you believe that nonsense , who was crucified for his thieving ?

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We don't "really" know what or who Jesus was. All we have are word of mouth stories passed from campfire to campfire. NOTHING was written for at least 50 years (half a century and a long lifetime, in those days). Most was scribbled and chiseled after a hundred years, or so a Bible study expert (ex- Priest), and friend, tells me. That's stuff the churches don't want you to realize. (Explaining why he is no longer a Priest). It was centuries after the "fact" that any of it was translated from ancient languages to Greek and Latin. A "translation" leaves all kinds of room for interpretative "guesses". We REALLY don't know much, that would stand up in court, about the man ... if we are realistic about it.

I like most of the ideas attributed to him. Most are just common sense. Horse thief? Maybe. I'm only sure he was never arrested for grand theft/auto. ;-)

NowASaint(867) Disputed
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You don't know. Those who know their sins are forgiven know it was God who died for their sins and rose bodily from the dead offering forgiveness to all who believe on Him.

You say you don't know because you don't know what I know. You are willfully ignorant because you enjoy being a pervert and don't want God telling you what you should or should not do.

Dermot(1790) Disputed
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Well yes I do know it's in YOUR favourite book the bible , Jesus was a low thief so going on your logic he's gonna roast in Hell ......

Arsenal(82) Disputed
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So since your boy Jesus was proven to have nicked a horse and stealing is a sin then by jove Jesus was a bloody sinner so that means your God was a sinner and all that makes it seem rather daft to worship him. And of course the big dilemma here is.......The Bible says he without sin cast the first stone. so Jesus and your God were with sin. so they've no sodding right to judge any of us blokes as sinners. So we need no forgiveness. Hey mate! Me thinks that the path of logic here buggers up your whole theology and renders it as pointless as tits on a board.

NowASaint(867) Clarified
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I'm sure you like the part where Jesus said fornicators will be in Hell forever where the worm never dies and the fire is never quenched. It describes you, fornicator, and makes you feel like you are important being referred to by Jesus.

Dermot(1790) Disputed
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There's also the part where thieves like Jesus roast in Hell , hey and nothing wrong with fornicating ....

AlofRI(1211) Clarified
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Aren't we ALL fornicators? If you are not, you ought to try it sometime. It's a great way to clear your head of bad thoughts and just mellow out ... something you obviously need. Live, laugh, fornicate! It's good for what ails ya!

Remember "Come on baby light my fire!" Well, after that the fire goes out, you're in heaven, not hell! Then YOU will feel important when you murmur "Oh, my Jesus!" ;-)

P.S. You might even become "a creator!"

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If he lived in the states back in the day a bounty would have been out on his head and they would have hung em high :)

NowASaint(867) Disputed
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pervert '

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Another proof of atheist lame-brains operating with something akin to a frontal lobotomy, having decided they are better than God.

Read the story, fools. To start with, the animal central to this story was the foal of an ass. It was a donkey. We all know donkeys are stubborn like atheists who stubbornly refuse to thank their Creator for their existence.

Ok, moving on in the Sunday School lesson........

Jesus sent the disciples to get the donkey, instructing them to say "the Lord hath need of it" if anybody asked them why they were taking the donkey. When a person watching the donkey was told the Lord has need of it, they stepped aside and let the donkey go. The donkey was given to service for the Lord who is God, Jesus the King of all Kings who is coming to rule the world from Mt. Zion and if atheists won't repent of their sin and believe on the Savior they will burn in Hell and face as their Judge the One they rejected as their Savior and they will be rejected by Him with their blood on their own heads after they insisted on trampling the blood of Chris under their feet all the way to the place of the damned.

Dermot(1790) Disputed
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Ha , Ha ,the usual lame brained excuses because the thief Jesus is exposed as being a low thief ,amazing the way you judge everyone else except the criminal Jesus ... hang em high :)

NowASaint(867) Clarified
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There is no such thing as a good atheist.

Psalm 14. The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.

2 The Lord looked down from heaven upon the children of men, to see if there were any that did understand, and seek God.

3 They are all gone aside, they are all together become filthy: there is none that doeth good, no, not one.

Some of them like to pretend they are good people......trying to fool themselves and others because they need to feel like they are too good to be frying in Hell like eternal sausages with their bones smoldering coals in the bonfire.

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I fell for clickbait. Yeshua loves you..........................................................................................................

Dermot(1790) Clarified
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He loves me .. wow thanks for that Now a Stain says he hates me wish you guys would make your minds up

Sitar(2752) Clarified
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Satan is a liar..............................................................................................

NowASaint(867) Clarified
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There is no such thing as a good atheist.

Psalm 14. The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.

2 The Lord looked down from heaven upon the children of men, to see if there were any that did understand, and seek God.

3 They are all gone aside, they are all together become filthy: there is none that doeth good, no, not one.

Some of them like to pretend they are good people......trying to fool themselves and others because they need to feel like they are too good to be frying in Hell like eternal sausages with their bones smoldering coals in the bonfire.

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Can you tell me what this has to do with any current events in the world ?

Dermot(1790) Clarified
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CD is only allowing debates on current events now , thanks for the heads up

outlaw60(6374) Disputed
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What do you have to have to say about MO and his message ? Please share !

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[Edit: duplicate post.]

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It's not evident that the horse was stolen. The response of the original owners isn't included, so their response may well have been to give the horse freely. Even if they didn't, Jesus didn't steal the horse himself so he wouldn't have been the thief. You might get him on conspiracy to theft, but I'm not sure that's in the Bible and his wording would have left him ample room for deniability in contemporary court since he never actually said to steal it.

Dermot(1790) Disputed
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Again what a surprise the village idiot ( that's you ) fails to comprehend ...

19:30 Saying, Go ye into the village over against you; in the which at your entering ye shall find a colt tied, whereon yet never man sat: loose him, and bring him hither.

19:31 And if any man ask you, Why do ye loose him? thus shall ye say unto him, Because the Lord hath need of him.

Go and get the colt IF asked why do you loose him ? Say I need him ...

Go and take that car IF the owner asks why ? say I need it ....

Of course in your world that's not theft ... what a surprise :)

Jace(4299) Disputed
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It's not theft if the original owner agrees to forfeit ownership because then they gave it to you. And stealing is requisite for being a thief, so if you don't steal then you're not a thief. It's all just basic tautology. Even an idiot can get it (not sure where that leaves you).

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I don't care. Islam is the true religion and u all should be ignoring this religion.

Dermot(1790) Disputed
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Yes ignore all religions especially the one with a peadophile prophet ... wait .. that's yours isn't it ?

jeffreyone(585) Disputed
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Brainwashed. Do the thinking yourself. Take time and do an intelligent and wise comparism yourself. No second opinions. Forget what mama said, dad said or the mallam. Don't make a religious conclusion but a sensible or logical one.

Dermot(1790) Disputed
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Yes you are brainwashed , people told you what to believe , the rest of what you say defeats your own stupid argument as my Mam ,dad and the mailman were all believers you clown .

Yes , right sensible like a talking serpent , a zombie messiah and a virgin birth all perfectly logical :)

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"thief

[theef]

noun, plural thieves.

1.

a person who steals, especially secretly or without open force; "

"19:32 And they that were sent went their way, and found even as he had said unto them.

19:33 And as they were loosing the colt, the owners thereof said unto them, Why loose ye the colt?

19:34 And they said, The Lord hath need of him.

19:35 And they brought him to Jesus: and they cast their garments upon the colt, and they set Jesus thereon.

Do you now understand theft? Or is your brain stolen?

Dermot(1790) Disputed
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But I know what it says about the thief Jesus here ya go read it and weep ......

19:29 And it came to pass, when he was come nigh to Bethphage and Bethany, at the mount called the mount of Olives, he sent two of his disciples,

19:30 Saying, Go ye into the village over against you; in the which at your entering ye shall find a colt tied, whereon yet never man sat: loose him, and bring him hither.

19:31 And if any man ask you, Why do ye loose him? thus shall ye say unto him, Because the Lord hath need of him.

19:32 And they that were sent went their way, and found even as he had said unto them.

19:33 And as they were loosing the colt, the owners thereof said unto them, Why loose ye the colt?

19:34 And they said, The Lord hath need of him.

19:35 And they brought him to Jesus: and they cast their garments upon the colt, and they set Jesus thereon.

19:36 And as he went, they spread their clothes in the way.

Dermot(1790) Disputed
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Here ya go again read it and weep the thief Jesus with his crew .....

19:29 And it came to pass, when he was come nigh to Bethphage and Bethany, at the mount called the mount of Olives, he sent two of his disciples,

19:30 Saying, Go ye into the village over against you; in the which at your entering ye shall find a colt tied, whereon yet never man sat: loose him, and bring him hither.

19:31 And if any man ask you, Why do ye loose him? thus shall ye say unto him, Because the Lord hath need of him.

19:32 And they that were sent went their way, and found even as he had said unto them.

19:33 And as they were loosing the colt, the owners thereof said unto them, Why loose ye the colt?

19:34 And they said, The Lord hath need of him.

19:35 And they brought him to Jesus: and they cast their garments upon the colt, and they set Jesus thereon.

19:36 And as he went, they spread their clothes in the way.