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Innocent until proven guilty Due process
Debate Score:67
Arguments:51
Total Votes:136
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Kavanaugh drank beer. Obama? Did cocaine. You care?

Obama's Cocaine Confessional Won't 'Blow' His Chances


ABC News 2007



Oh...and the sexual misconduct and murder claims that libs weren't concerned about.



Innocent until proven guilty

Side Score: 24
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Due process

Side Score: 43
2 points

Genuinely don't care if he drank beer. At all. I care if he molested or raped women and so far we still don't know if he did or not so he's innocent until proven guilty, but beer I couldn't possibly care less.

Side: Innocent until proven guilty
outlaw60(15499) Disputed
1 point

Poor Jewel does the Valley Gurl Ballsey Ford have any evidence ?

Side: Due process
FromWithin(7642) Disputed
-2 points
Mint_tea(4026) Disputed
2 points

So are you saying that we should judge a person, for his actions as a child, his entire life?

If he drank beer as a teenager? No. Don't care. If he raped a girl? Yes, I do care.

I thought Liberals were suppose to be big on compassion and forgiveness for so called mistakes from the past.

Underage drinking is a mistake, raping someone is not. The two aren't even close to comparable. As I said, don't care if he drank beer, I care if he raped someone. Since we don't know yet if he's raped someone he's innocent until proven guilty.

Side: Innocent until proven guilty
BananaHole(40) Disputed
0 points

@FromWithin

Looks like what I said is true. It's ok to rape girls as long as you're conservatives according to conservatives. If it was a liberal who did it you would be able to see that if you rape a girl in highschool, chances are you are enough of a scumbag to still be a scumbag in adulthood.

Side: Innocent until proven guilty
AlofRI(2796) Clarified
0 points

FW:

NO! The thing here is what he is accused of doing as a teen was, if true, wrong. What he has done as an ADULT, is LIE, COVER UP, and seek revenge for those who won't let him get away WITH those adult lies! We have to judge a person for his actions as an adult, but should not let his actions as a child go un-admonished OR unpunished! You rob a store as a child and get away with it, you should STILL be punished, in SOME way, for robbing it! You should STILL make restitution to the store. That's what MY mommy taught ME, How 'bout YOU??? "Christian?"

Side: Innocent until proven guilty
1 point

Kavanaugh drank beer. Obama? Did cocaine. You care?

Hello bront:

I dunno how you get so much wrong.. It's NOT about drinking beer.. It's about LYING about drinking beer..

Personally, I respect a person a whole lot more if they ADMIT they did things in the past.. I will NEVER believe that Kavanaugh is the choir boy virgin he says he is..

excon

Side: Innocent until proven guilty
outlaw60(15499) Disputed
1 point

STUPOR STUPID produce some evidence or crawl back into the hole you emerged from !

Side: Due process
Bronto(2017) Disputed
0 points

Hello bront:

Hello Con.

I dunno how you get so much wrong.. It's NOT about drinking beer.. It's about LYING about drinking beer..

1)This is my third time to request proof of any lie.

2)Bill Clinton said, and I quote, "I did not have sexual relations with that young lady." Libs said to stay out of peoples' private lives. I watched it all in real time.

Personally, I respect a person a whole lot more if they ADMIT they did things in the past.. I will NEVER believe that Kavanaugh is the choir boy virgin he says he is..

Here's video of Kavanaugh saying he drank beer in highschool and still drinks beer nearly 20 times in one video.

https://youtu.be/c1fBIonqeS4

Side: Due process
0 points

All that matters is "Did you do any damage when you made a mistake? Did you LEARN from your mistake? Do you LIE about your mistake? Do you seek revenge to cover up your mistake." Obama is honest about what he did, there is NO evidence that he hurt ANYONE. He has moved on with honesty. Kavanaugh, on the other hand …….. :-(

Side: Innocent until proven guilty
Hobbes(48) Disputed
1 point

Obama is honest about what he did, there is NO evidence that he hurt ANYONE. He has moved on with honesty. Kavanaugh, on the other hand …….. :-(

Brett Kavanaugh saying he drank beer in highschool 20 times in one video:

https://youtu.be/c1fBIonqeS4

Larry Sinclair accusing Obama of sexual misconduct, cocaine use, and murder:

https://youtu.be/3QK0eGp3N6A

Lib response:

https://theuniversalspectator.files.wordpress.com/2014/06/shrugging-obama.jpg

Side: Due process
outlaw60(15499) Disputed
1 point

All that matters is "Did you do any damage when you made a mistake? Did you LEARN from your mistake? Do you LIE about your mistake? Do you seek revenge to cover up your mistake." Obama is honest about what he did, there is NO evidence that he hurt ANYONE. He has moved on with honesty. Kavanaugh, on the other hand …….. :-(

CRAZY GRANDPAW you mean OBIE was honest about Larry Sinclair ??????????

Being both were PETER PUFFERS as we know !

Side: Due process
FromWithin(7642) Disputed
0 points

All that matters is... do you support brutally dismembering viable unborn babies for any reason up to birth?

YOU HAVE THE NERVE TO TALK ABOUT LYING OR PAYING FOR MISTAKES IN CHILDHOOD?

You are supporting the killing of innocent lives here today you mindless hypocrite!

IGNORE!

Side: Due process
-1 points

It's not the beer don't you see? It's the person drinking the beer.

If he's a Democrat, he could have been raping a woman while drunk and high on cocaine, but it would have been brushed off as a simple teenage mistake having no bearing on the person today.

When it's a Republican, he is labeled Satan incarnate while hating women, hating sick people, hating immigrants, and totally unfit for the Supreme court.

Side: Due process
AlofRI(2796) Clarified
0 points

PLEASE! Tell us of an occasion when we excused a liberal for raping a girl!???

If you hate immigrants, hate sick people, use your station for revenge OR lie to the Senate, you ARE totally unfit for the SCOTUS … conservative OR liberal! Kavanaugh is NOT a Republican, he's a Trumpist conservative! To CALL EITHER a Republican is an insult to the GOP!

Side: Innocent until proven guilty
Bronto(2017) Disputed
1 point

PLEASE! Tell us of an occasion when we excused a liberal for raping a girl!???

Bill Clinton sexual misconduct allegations

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/BillClintonsexualmisconductallegations

Side: Innocent until proven guilty
Bronto(2017) Disputed
1 point
Side: Innocent until proven guilty
FromWithin(7642) Disputed
-1 points

Senile? You elected Bill Clinton after being accused of raping multiple women as Governor (not a teenager in school).

So you total hypocrites have no problem with rape allegations when it is a Democrat!

HYPOCRITE!

This women was never raped! She says he tried to undress her, but you witch hunters scream RAPE RAPE RAPE ! CRUCIFY HIM!!!!!!

Side: Innocent until proven guilty
-2 points