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Debate Score:21
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LET'S MAKE OUR WORLD A SINGLE NATION

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Side Score: 13
2 points

End Sharia law and free North Korea. Until then this dream can't be achieved.

Side: AGREE
2 points

I love it how libs worship government like a god. They never conclude that the one world ruler would be Hitlerian.

Side: disagree
2 points

Okay, great idea.

When and where do we start?

Please fill us in with the details of your grand plan and we're with you all the way.

Side: AGREE

I would like to see this happen. The only way this would work is if we adopted a universal religion. Atheists want NO religion, but that will never happen- humans by nature need a divinity. One government would cut most of the wasted energy on militaries.

Side: AGREE
Balrog(64) Disputed
1 point

Islam will soon be the universal religion. Hopefully the libs don't mind bowing to Mecca five times a day.

Side: disagree
AlofRI(1866) Clarified
1 point

I'm an atheist and I'm NOT against religion. I just wish that when someone follows one, they follow it quietly! That they do NOT try to shove it down anyone's throat that doesn't want it .... that includes pushing national laws that demand their rules be followed. Follow your own rules WITHIN your religion and I'll have no problem.

I think, in a few years, most religions will die of their own inability to prove their god exists.

On the one government thingy, we're not ready yet. I agree, it would be better (likely), since nationalism has failed to bring world peace over many centuries. Time to get together! First, we must get over this religion thing.

Side: AGREE
BiggieSmalls(34) Disputed
1 point

You don't follow Progressivism quietly, so doesn't that make you a big, giant hypocrite?

Side: disagree
1 point

I don't disagree with the proposed result. I think a lot of human time, effort, and money is simply wasted maintaining armies as self defense from each other, the global figure being about 1.6 trillion dollars. Trade is beneficial, but not as much as it could be without one side trying to win over the other. Propaganda. Big-dick policies. Big-dick leaders. Terrorism. Nuclear armageddon. I'm sure there are countless other losses and threats brought about by international competition that I haven't even thought about.

On the other side is motivation from competition. Apparently people want to do better than their neighbouring countries. The fear derived from war certainly does the trick. I don't really feel that on a daily basis, but maybe others do? Either way I think the negatives outweigh the positives in this case.

The problem is how. Similar issue to having a single language, but on a much larger scale.

Organizations like the UN are a step in that direction. At least a somewhat unified will can be possible.

Side: AGREE

This is a recipe for totalitarianism on steroids. The only thing keeping us from Orwell's "1984" is the fact that we have nations.

And besides, once you proposed this to cultures who hate the West, which is most, they'd laugh at you or go to war with you.

Side: disagree
1 point

A one world government and the homogeneity of governance that necessarily follows is a terrible idea for a myriad of reasons. While it seems a laudable goal, this perception is the product of shallow, optimistic analysis. The main reason people think it is a good idea is because it would, in theory, mean that wars were not possible. Obviously, however, this isn't the case. Civil wars and insurgencies have the same results as wars between nations: death and destruction.

In addition, imagine if the world government became malevolent. As it stands, if our nation of residence is becoming oppressive we can flee elsewhere. Under a one world government, however, where could one flee to escape it's totalitarian clutches? Further, what force could oppose a malevolent world government? When Adolf Hitler set his sights on world domination it was only other nations that could stop him. Those within his empire had no such ability and even the French resistance required outside aid. The French resistance also only existed due to the fact that the French army wasn't entirely militarily crushed because they were conquered so quickly by the German Blitzkrieg. If there is a malevolent one world government, there will be no force that can oppose it and emerge victorious.

Further, one must think of the manner in which we have progressed as societies in the past. Different nations try different methods of rule and we can compare these to inform our manner of governance. One might find, for example, that giving one's citizenry greater freedoms results in greater productivity. This is a big reason why nations grant freedoms to it's citizens; in the interests of what is pragmatic, rather than in the interests of morality. Different nations and empires each found different methods of progression at different times and intentionally or unintentionally shared these. For one example, the renaissance is at least partially creditable to the manner in which the Medici ruled Florence, including their patronage of artists, inventors and other polymaths.

Finally, one must think about the ability to be represented by one's government and it's accountability to it's citizens. When one is governed on a smaller scale, one can be greater represented by their government. This is both because one makes up a larger percentage of the voting population and because different issues have different importance to people living in different areas. This is demonstrated by, for example, the cities of the U.S. being more left leaning while the countryside is more right leaning (Source 1). These contrasts are magnified when one considers the political and ideological differences between nations. Moreover, under diversity of governance, one may be able to choose between several available options which government they prefer. It is also an immediately apparent fact that a government is more accountable to it's citizens when it is more local. A multinational government based in Brussels, for example, has less reason to be afraid of unrest in London than unrest in Brussels. Moreover, it is easily demonstrated that at larger numbers accountability and representation is reduced. If one has 100 citizens and one ruler, it merely takes ten outspoken citizens for a problem or concern to be made apparent. If one has one million citizens, however, it takes one hundred thousand protestors to have the same effect.

Sources:

(1) http://www.economist.com/blogs/democracyinamerica/2010/11/political landscape

Side: disagree
1 point

The biggest barrier between liberals and their one world nation dream is that 95% of humanity thinks Western liberals are dangerous idiots in need of being destroyed.

Side: disagree
1 point

Hello a:

I'm a driver. I NEVER want to give up driving.. But, self driving cars are coming whether I like it or not..

One world government is too. I'd rather it NOT, but it doesn't care what I want.

excon

Side: disagree
outlaw60(12699) Disputed
1 point

LET'S MAKE OUR WORLD A SINGLE NATION

And then Resident Dummy says this

I'm a driver. I NEVER want to give up driving.. But, self driving cars are coming whether I like it or not..

One world government is too. I'd rather it NOT, but it doesn't care what I want.

excon

Stupidity reigns Supreme in your party Super Stupid LMMFAO

Side: AGREE
1 point

It may just be an analogy, but I don't think the introduction and acceptance of self driving cars will mean you'll have to give up driving. Even in the extreme but eventually likely case that driving becomes illegal it should still be possible to drive recreationally in designated areas, like go-karting, except I imagine the demand would result in areas as big as or larger than golf courses.

I'm curious as to why you believe a one world government is inevitable.

Side: disagree
BiggieSmalls(34) Disputed
1 point

Voting for the party that is pushing for the one world government is brilliant then.

Side: AGREE
1 point

LET'S MAKE OUR WORLD A SINGLE NATION

Well okay Stupid you want to live in Cuba ????????

Side: disagree
1 point

On the higher level we are all ONE. But to manage and co-ordinate anything better and properly we generally do divide our work split and organise it to manage it better. Thats' how the world should function.

Side: disagree