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 Land of the Free? Bullsh*t (13)

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Land of the Free? Bullsh*t

The united states represents 5% of the World population but 25% of the World's prisoners...
What are your thoughts? Is it because the US is a free land that so many are incarcerated? Or is this image we give to the World a bunch lies?
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Firstly, these figures are dependent on accurate information being provided by all nations participating in the survey.

Assuming that the comparative percentages are correct then we should recognise that America has more criminals that most other nations and it's detection rates are better.

It should also be understood that the filth behind bars are there for very good reasons which include, re-offending paedophiles, rapists, murderers, drug dealers, protection racketeers, pimps, habitual muggers, people traffickers and so forth.

Such re-offending low lives must be made aware that there are consequences for their crimes against the society in which they infest.

If we broke down the ethnic background of the locked up filth I feel that we would find that a disproportionately high percentage would be, blacks, Mexicans and illegal immigrants.

How the criminal filth love to hear the sanctimonious shitheads assert that prison does not rehabilitate offenders.

Much better that they are allowed back onto the streets to ply their deadly trade whist they attend classes to help the poor misunderstood souls how to integrate back into society, such a yarn.

Atrag(5666) Disputed
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Assuming that the comparative percentages are correct then we should recognise that America has more criminals that most other nations and it's detection rates are better.

So your explanation is that USAians are inherently more disposed to crime than other nations?

No dear, the reason is that the USA has much harsher sentences than most other countries and is more focused on imprisonment than community sentencing.

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Well bitch, your feeble explanation for the figures is contrary to all international statistics.

Giving 'gouge your eyes out McGurk' a community service sentence would only be an effective form of punishment in the surreal world where shitheads like you spend most of your time jerking off.

Due to the presence of millions of hardened illegal immigrant criminals,( the ones Trump wants to repatriate) American offenders are the most violent in world and all attempts at rehabilitation fails 9 times out of 10 with criminals re-offending when freed on some cock-eyed rehab, scheme.

It's filth like you who are responsible for ordinary citizens being the victims of heinous crimes as the habitual criminal takes advantage of your disproven ideology.

Wake up shithead and smell what it is your shoveling.

outlaw60(15368) Disputed
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Community sentencing ? Just let the felons back into the community and life will be good will it not ?

Gypsee(347) Clarified
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I knew you'd come :)

Supposing my statistics are correct, I do believe that criminal should be in prison for the safety of others and for justice. However, does it really make others more safe? I mean yes, that particular rapist won't rape anymore but does it stop other rapists from raping?

It is the land of the free; those prisoners had freedom of choice and they chose badly.

its ironic that in the land of the free someone can get 55 years in jail for selling marijuana .

It's a bunch of bullshit :)

Yes and no, relatively speaking we are a pretty free country in comparison to some countries in the middle east, and North Korea. However many countries are also free as well, so it's not so unique to us except that the pursuit of more freedom was the motivation for the establishing of this country. Freedom is "spectrumal" in the sense that we all have some degree of freedom, some just have significantly more freedom.

We are more free as a people then we are as individuals, in the sense that we together decide where freedom ends and law begins, which is good because it effectively creates a barrier in which one's freedom doesn't intervene with another's. For example killing is illegal in most cases or on it's own because one's "freedom" to kill would contradict another's freedom to live. It can be bad though because sometimes as a people we hold faulty attitudes and beliefs, which causes the laws we make to sometimes to be based on bad reasoning. For example, despite the fact that it has little impact on anyone else homosexuals weren't free to marry each other for a long time, for some because it was believed an omnipotent being with the power of absolute righteousness 24/7 condemned it for some reason, for others because they thought it was icky, or in some cases both.

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So you are as you claim a citizen of the United States ? If that is true then there should be no criminal justice system in the United States ? Question posed and don't do the typical Progressive spin what if a family member of yours was murdered by a criminal ? Would you not want the criminal justice to work for your family or would you like to see the criminal walk that committed that felony ?

Gypsee(347) Clarified
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me? You talking to me?

I don't really know what the typical Progressive spin is...I never said there should be nocriminal justice system. I just wanted to point out the irony and mostly the incarceration rate in the United States. It suggests many different things:

1. either people are thrown into prison for nothing ( like our friend nicely pointed out about drug crimes)

2.or people do commit more crime. Why? I say someone write that it is because of our freedom that we commit more crime. So, in other words increased crime rates is a consequence of a free land. It is a logical point. In a free land, people will tend to do commit more crimes. So it makes sens to have a strict justice system in order to limit crime

3. Or it could suggest something deeper. Why do people commit crimes? Is incarcerating criminals the real solution to reducing crime?

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Land of the Free doesn't mean there aren't repercussions for doing bad things. Some people, yes probably shouldn't be in jail, but you are free to make the decisions you want and if you make a bad decision then that's your fault and no one else's. While it may not always seem like we are truly free, we have more freedoms than many countries out there. It also begs the question.....is humanity really capable of having full freedoms? I don't think we are "grown up" enough yet.

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Yes, land of the free is bulls*t. Plain and simple.

But if you and I are among the lucky ones not in jail then at least in the limited sphere of our own lives we can live on with a false illusion that yes we're free. And some families for many generations are able to keep that illusion up.

Hey, the alternative is waking up from the matrix.

The United States holds 5% of the world population and 25% of the World’s prisoners. What are your thoughts?

The majority of convicted criminals may have a hard time telling the difference between things which are free and those which must be paid for. Also the saying was “Land of the free, home of the brave.” This implying it is often harder to follow a basic idea of non-bias self-separation, than the free actions of being simple based and opportunistic.

On a fundamental explanation haven’t the incarcerated taken free liberty upon others. Free does not need be perpetual in all accounts it holds self-evident boundaries.