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Debate Score:121
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Let's Talk About: Abortion

Are you for or against abortion, do you believe that there shouldn't be late term abortions, but believe in early term abortions? State your arguments below.

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Side Score: 63
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Against

Side Score: 58

Yup. I do not support late term abortion though. That is pretty messed up.

Side: For
FYIRepub(19) Clarified
1 point

What is the difference between late term and early term?

Side: For
LadyLinkstar(415) Clarified
1 point

A simple search can take you a long way my friend.

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Side: For
1 point

I don't either, but it is important to remember that late-term abortions only make up about 2% of abortions. Most women make up their mind before then.

Side: For
1 point

I don't either, but it is important to remember that late-term abortions only make up about 2% of abortions. Most women make up their mind before then.

You said that most women "make up" their mind before then.

Why didn't you just say that most women "decide" before then?

Making up someone's mind is a long term process, something that involves a change of mind.

You can't change your mind from a long held belief early on.

Side: Against

Yes, sometimes it is more inhumane to force a person to have a child than to abort the child because of bad economic status.

Side: For
1 point

Yes, sometimes it is more inhumane to force a person to have a child than to abort the child because of bad economic status.

Why did you say economic status as opposed to financial?

Most people abort their babies due to financial status, not economic status.

Finance and funding is not the same as your personal economy.

Side: Against
WastingAway(340) Disputed
1 point

Either way, it's a valid reason. Additionally, you didn't dispute why people should be allowed to get abortions

Side: For
1 point

We' re all just a load of cockroaches and rats.

Rip a fetus out and then smash it with a bat.

You see, I don't even care if it was me,

That received a premature fatality.

Abortion is just a miniscule hinderance,

an inevitability of causality.

It's just another death of a pest , in reality.

Side: For
1 point

The unanswerable question is when does a life begin. People debate between whether it's from conception, from birth, the moment it look human-like and many more. I, personally, can't really decide because at the end of the day its still a life that won't be able to be lived.

Side: For
FYIRepub(19) Clarified
1 point

Life doesn't "begin" to say so would be believing in spontaneous generation. Which was an idea we threw away 200 years ago. Life is a very complicated matter.

Side: For
IAmSparticus(1516) Clarified
1 point

You keep repeating this flawed understanding of spontaneous generation. Nobody is saying that a flea is coming out of dust. They are saying that biological building blocks through the process of sexual reproduction eventually creates life.

Spontaneous generation requires biological life to come from non-biological substances "spontaneously".

Side: For
1 point

People often assume they know the solutions to unwanted pregnancy without considering how the woman must feel. The fact is that carrying a baby that was produced by rape is ignominious to both the woman and the child. It is also not uncommon that children that are put up for adoption may never be adopted and be forced into living in foster homes until the age of eighteen. Living in foster homes without the valuable boon of loving parents can be detrimental to the health of the child. This can often lead to dropping out of high school, and turning to criminal activity. This is not to say that all women with unwanted children should get abortions, but the option should always be available, especially in cases where the life of the baby or mother is endangered. If this option is not available then there abortions will still occur, but in the non-medical form such as coat-hanger abortions.

Side: For
1 point

The government is responsible for the feelings of women and children born into unfortunate circumstances.

Don't blame it on lack of abortions.

Side: Against
Ainochikara(13) Disputed
1 point

You can't expect the government to solve all your problems. Out-of-wedlock pregnancy is very common in the black community, which is partially the government's fault for encouraging it. However, it's also the media, as well as the decision of blacks to not get married first. The lack of marriage leads to families that are more likely to break apart, and children that are not cared for are more likely not to complete their education, or turn to a gang as an alternative family. It's a complex problem with many factors.

Side: For

Let's start with this. The number one cause of wanting to abort a baby is because of rape. Now, rape is a very serious thing. If one is pro- life, or anti-abortion, that person is saying that the mother has to give birth and raise a child by them self, and also hate. Every time this baby says something, it reminds her of the awful thing that took place. I'm pro-abortion, not for killing babies, or to go against any religion, but to make people more aware that the baby will suffer more with a terrible life.

Side: For
foratag(247) Disputed
1 point

You are an absolute liar. The three reasons for an abortion are:

negative impact on the mother's life

financial instability

relationship problems /unwillingness to be a single mother

http://womensissues.about.com/od/reproductiverights/a/AbortionReasons.htm

http://www.guttmacher.org/pubs/psrh/full/3711005.pdf

Rape comes in at number 9

Side: Against
1 point

Okay and ? All three of those reasons are negative and can harm the child. Getting it aborted is probably 10x better then forcing it into situations like that.

Side: For
1 point

Lets say a 17 yr old girl is walking down the street and suddenly she gets raped? well now that girl is pregnant at the age of 17 and is a junior!..... Why should this girl be forced to have this baby it wasn't her choice...?! no one should have to be forced into motherhood!!! If you think abortions are a good thing then please give me your reasons!?

I would really like to know your reasons (im not being sarcastic)

Side: For
1 point

It's the death of a life, being an Atheist, I don't believe in life after death. Here's proof that it is killing a life.

Spontaneous Generation is completely impossible, to state otherwise is completely absurd. If your one of those "I am not for late term abortions but for early term abortions" then you might as well support abortion all the way. Life is a complicated matter. But a child is most definitely alive from the time it is a sperm, to the day it dies 85 some years later.

Side: Against
Cartman(18205) Clarified
2 points

But a child is most definitely alive from the time it is a sperm...

Does that mean masturbation is murder?

Side: For
FYIRepub(19) Clarified
2 points

Do you take a knife and chop up the sperm? Masturebation is releasing sperm, something that happens in the middle of the night sometimes (wet dreams) after they are released and are soaked up in your clothes or blankets I do not know nor do I care. But once a sperm and a female egg cell meet and begin the making of a baby, it is a human.

Do you believe in evolution? Think of it as us evolving inside our mother's womb, we don't think monkeys are equivalent to humans do we? Of course not! But once the monkey became the homo sapien then we had reached our top point of evolution. Think of it the same for an embryo the day it is conceived. If you didn't want a child you should have used a condom.

Side: For
dadman(1466) Disputed
1 point

ARE YOU REALLY THIS STUPID ?? ....................................

Side: For
IAmSparticus(1516) Clarified
1 point

If you believe that sperm is a human life, you must believe that the human species is undergoing truly massive genocide-level events every hour or so.

Side: For
Eil_is_bad Disputed
1 point

If you believe that every sperm is a living entity, that would mean that anytime you procreate, you are still "murdering" millions of "life forms." When you ejaculate, a single sperm goes to the egg and creates a human. Therefor if every sperm was a living entity, than anytime you procreate, you are killing millions and choosing one. That doesn't make much sense.

Even if every individual sperm was a living entity, it wouldn't realize it, being that it doesn't have a brain. So this doesn't really matter.

Side: For

This is what pro abortion supporters do to deceive the pubic and hide the inhumanity of their policies.

1) Steer the abortion conversation to life of mother and rape pregnancies. Talk about a red hearing yet this is the first thing these pro choice people will do. The GOP has allowed these exceptions since abortion was legalized yet we still hear every day from the talking heads in the Democrat party about these extreme rare cases. Lie, deceive, exaggerate, etc. all to condition the electorate to think the GOP wil deny these extreme case abortions.(by the way, rape pregnancies can be prevented from day after pills that prevent conception)

2) The next thing they do is talk about the medical name of an unborn Baby..... Fetus. By using the name Fetus, they somehow believe it changes the status of the life growing inside the mother. Somehow in their twisted thinking, a Baby that has not yet traveled through the birth canal is somehow different than it is after it is has moved down that canal. WOW, TALK ABOUT DENIAL!

3) Next they will talk about the pain level of an unborn Baby. These pro abortion people have no clue the exact time a Baby can feel pain yet they latch on to absurd claims by pro abortion groups. I am only aware of the one video of an abortion procedure(gee what a shock) around the 1st trimester time frame. The baby clearly moves away from the implements of his death. Saying it is ok to kill an unborn Baby because it supposedly can not feel pain? It's a laughable excuse. When they vote for those on the Left, they are supporting late term abortions where the baby most definitely feel pain. The GOP has tried a number of times to prevent abortions past 20 weeks(unless extreme cases) only to have the Democrat party stop them each time.

4) The next thing they do is talk about the supposed hard life these unwanted children will have if we allow them to live. So in all their God like powers, they know the future of every Baby aborted? How many great people have come from poverty or foster homes, etc.? To be so arrogant to allow the deaths of innocent life because of some perceived hard life is beyond diabolical. That's like the Nazi mentality where we only want blond haired blue eyed people being born in Germany. In all their arrogance, they will deem who is deservng of life. To all the special needs kids? Your lives are not as valuable to many pro abortion people.

5) The next thing some pro choice people say is that they do not personally believe in abortion, but would afford other's the choice to end the lives of their unborn Babies. Gee, how nice of them. I always wonder how a person who personally believes that aborting his own Baby is wrong because it is ending a human life, can support allowing other babies to die. HYPOCRITE PHONEY!

6) After all the scare tactics and deceptions, their next step is to lie and say they do not support late term abortions for any reason. But when you show them that the Democrat party has become so radical to even support allowing a late term Baby born alive from a botched abortion to die, they are finally silent because even they can not come up with an excuse for such inhumanity and the fact that they elect these people.

I am not here trying to judge any woman who has had an abortion. I am speaking for the millons of future lives that the Left has sacrificed, all under the notion they are burdens to society. I've heard many people (racists) who bring up the great many Black Babies that would be born were it not for abortions. WOW! I think the support of abortions quite often has racist over tones.

There can be no excuse for taking an innocent life other than rare extreme cases. Our culture is dieing from such little respect for innocent human life. There are absolutely millions of parents waiting to adopt these unwanted babies.

Side: Against
Firnen(1) Clarified
2 points

There are absolutely millions of parents waiting to adopt these unwanted babies.

Except after 5 or so years the millions of parents will have all adopted an unwanted baby so unless millions of parents each year want to adopt these unwanted children orphanages would quickly fill up after the first 5 years.

Side: For
FromWithin(5476) Clarified
1 point

What you are missing is that when people can no longer simply run down to get an abortion after this promiscuous free sex culture, they might actully use BIRTH CONTROL? The girl might actually tell that idiot guy who wants the one night hookup to get lost.

There were far far fewer unwanted pregnancies 60 years ago when abortion on demand was illegal. There were waiting lists for adoptions back them also.

Side: For
1 point

awesome post ..... I couldn't agree more ..... http://dadmansabode.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=754#p754

Side: Against

Thank you................................................................................................

Side: Against
1 point

Nope .

Side: For
1 point

Legalized Murder supported by the Progressive Left. Have 50 plus million been killed by guns in this country ? Yet all you hear is the Progressive Left cry gun control !

If the Progressive Left wasn't a fetus upon conception then what were they ?

Side: Against

Exactly, the progressive Left are complete hypocrites when it comes to supposedly caring for innocent life. They have the humanity and compassion of dictators.

Snce they could care less about innocent life, you must know that this gun control thing is purely politics and a desire to control the people by finally taking our guns one step at a time.

Side: Against
1 point

Like usual, you are a hypocrite as well by your very reasoning on this issue.

And for your second claim, no. Like usual.

Side: For