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Lied & changed its narrative Those bonuses are all fake
Debate Score:57
Arguments:39
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Let's face it. The Democrats lied to you about the tax bill.



AT&T, Comcast giving $1,000 bonuses to hundreds of thousands of workers after tax bill
AT&T is paying bonuses of $1,000 to more than 200,000 U.S. employees.
AT&T's CEO said it was in response to tax reform.


**"Beginning in 2018, we will see benefits from the tax reform ... in the form of lower corporate tax rates," CEO Brian Moynihan said in an internal memo to employees obtained by CNBC.
President Donald Trump signed a bill on Friday that overhauls the U.S. tax code.

Bank of America will give some of its employees a $1,000 bonus, citing the tax bill that was just signed into law.**


**Wells Fargo, Fifth Third Bancorp unveil minimum wage hikes after tax bill passage
Fifth Third and AT&T are paying employees special bonuses after getting tax cuts under the Republican tax plan.
Wells Fargo said Wednesday that it would boost minimum wages for employees to $15 an hour, following Fifth Third's similar announcement.**


**Sinclair**

"Sinclair Broadcast Group announced Friday it would pay a $1,000 bonus to almost 9,000 of its full-time and part-time employees after the recent passage of the GOP tax bill."

**Washington Federal**

"Seattle-based banking company Washington Federal said it would give 5 percent merit increases to all employees earning less than $100,000 annually, as well as invest in employee training and technology upgrades, and make a $5 million contribution to its main philanthropy foundation."










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Lied & changed its narrative

Side Score: 39
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Those bonuses are all fake

Side Score: 18
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If you watch the fake news of CNN, MSNBC, NBC, CBS, ABC, ETC. ETC. you would believe that this tax bill only helps the Rich.

If you listen to the Liberal deception on this site, you would believe that Trump only cares about the Rich! The facts are that the wealthy might be the only ones who could possibly have tax increases as a result of losing deductions on very high wealthy mortgages, and state tax deductions, etc.

Your federal standard deuction will be doubled to $24,000 so these losses to state tax deductions will not effect most middle class families.

If you blindly swallow the outright lies from the Trump haters, all I can say is get off debate sites, because you have no clue to what is going on.

Not one Democrat voted for this GOP Tax bill! Do you know why that is? Democrats live off their welfare voting blocks, and need our tax dollars to buy those votes!

Now this Tax bill is also a huge tax cut for low income families who will pay no federal taxes on the first $24,000 of their income!

This tax bill will double the tax credits for your children!

This tax bill will drop couple's income tax brackets to 12% if you make up to $90,000!

DOES THAT SOUND TO YOU LIKE A TAX BILL THAT ONLY HELPS THE RICH?

Stop believing the outright lies from fake news!

Stop believing the outright lies from the Democrat Party!

Stop believing the outright lies from the Liberals on this debate site!

Ues your brains, see through their lies, and when your paycheck increases in Febuary, remember all the lies from the left when you vote in the next elections.

Side: Lied & changed its narrative
2 points

Hello bront:

Look.. The tax bill is SOOOO generous to corporations, that they can AFFORD to give away money.. But, the giveaway has NOTHING whatsoever to do with the new tax law.

Here's the TRUTH about it that right wingers won't tell you.. IF some future congress DOESN'T make the middle class tax cuts permanent, taxes for the middle class will go UP.. IF corporations put the money in their pockets instead of creating jobs, the tax law will have been just one giant giveaway to the rich.. Finally, IF we don't grow at 4%, the ENTIRE $1.5 TRILLION is added to the debt...

Happy New Year.

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Side: Those bonuses are all fake
1 point

Here's the TRUTH about it that right wingers won't tell you.. IF some future congress DOESN'T make the middle class tax cuts permanent, taxes for the middle class will go UP

And of course what Democrats won't tell you is that they would be permanent if Democrats had chosen to participate.

Side: Lied & changed its narrative
1 point

IF corporations put the money in their pockets instead of creating jobs, the tax law will have been just one giant giveaway to the rich

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AT&T;, Comcast giving $1,000 bonuses to hundreds of thousands of workers after tax bill

AT&T;is paying bonuses of $1,000 to more than 200,000 U.S. employees.

AT&T;'s CEO said it was in response to tax reform.

https://www.cnbc.com/2017/12/20/tax-reform-reaction-att-is-giving-bonuses-to-200000-employees.html

"Beginning in 2018, we will see benefits from the tax reform ... in the form of lower corporate tax rates," CEO Brian Moynihan said in an internal memo to employees obtained by CNBC.

President Donald Trump signed a bill on Friday that overhauls the U.S. tax code.

Bank of America will give some of its employees a $1,000 bonus, citing the tax bill that was just signed into law.

https://www.cnbc.com/2017/12/22/bank-of-america-is-giving-some-employees-a-1000-bonus-citing-tax-bill.html

Wells Fargo, Fifth Third Bancorp unveil minimum wage hikes after tax bill passage

Fifth Third and AT&T;are paying employees special bonuses after getting tax cuts under the Republican tax plan.

Wells Fargo said Wednesday that it would boost minimum wages for employees to $15 an hour, following Fifth Third's similar announcement.

https://www.cnbc.com/2017/12/20/fifth-third-bancorp-unveils-bonuses-minimum-wage-hike-after-tax-bill-passage.html

Sinclair

"Sinclair Broadcast Group announced Friday it would pay a $1,000 bonus to almost 9,000 of its full-time and part-time employees after the recent passage of the GOP tax bill."

Washington Federal

"Seattle-based banking company Washington Federal said it would give 5?percent merit increases to all employees earning less than $100,000 annually, as well as invest in employee training and technology upgrades, and make a $5 million contribution to its main philanthropy foundation."

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2017/12/22/heres-a-list-or-companies-giving-worker- bonuses-aftee-tax-reform-n2426226

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Giveaway to the rich

1)We could happily tax them into oblivion as we watch them all pick up and move out of the country and actually gather less taxes because everyone is gone.

2)"Giveaways" make companies stay rather than be run off. Supply side economics works in principle, whether lefties like it or not. Reagan cut corporate taxes in similar fashion and had tremendous success.

Side: Lied & changed its narrative
1 point

Finally, IF we don't grow at 4%

And if we do or even grow at 5% or 6%? We were at 4% during a year where we got smashed by natural disasters.

the ENTIRE $1.5 TRILLION is added to the debt...

It's hard Con, I know. The last Dear leader made it hard for lefties to argue the national debt in depth effectively.

Side: Lied & changed its narrative
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Finally, IF we don't grow at 4%, the ENTIRE $1.5 TRILLION is added to the debt...

Quit heavily funding the UN and mindlessly supporting other countries. Then quit giving benefits to illegal aliens who aren't even citizens. The right aren't economic geniuses con. They just don't live in looney land where you spend trillions on non-Americans and foreign countries and wonder why you're broke.

Side: Lied & changed its narrative
2 points

AT&T;is 100% lying about those bonuses. Unions had been fighting for those for months before the tax bill was passed. They requested higher wages and the company said no but did agree to that one time bonus. THEN the tax bill came out and now theyre lying and saying the bonus was because of the tax bill when it had been agreed to for months. And even if it was from the tax bill it makes up 7% of what AT&T;is saving from the tax cut. So 93% goes right to shareholders and executives.

why lie? Because its in their best interest to make corporate tax cuts and other right wing economic plans APPEAR favorable to the middle class so they will keep voting for it thinking it to be in their best interest. AT&T;is a proven example of lying so i wouldnt be surprised if other companies did it. Keep in mind corporate profits have been at an all time high for several years. These bonuses couldve been done back in 2014

Side: Those bonuses are all fake
1 point

Almost 300 companies gave $1,000+ bonuses to their employees.

Side: Lied & changed its narrative
AveSatanas(4443) Disputed
1 point

Cite that claim please. I havent seen more than a dozen companies publicly declare bonuses. And subtract 1 for At&t;'s being a blatant lie.

Also, on average these bonuses are accounting for about 15-20% of what the companies made in the tax break. In At&t;'s case the bonuses accounted for only 7% of what they made in the tax break. IF that money came out of the tax break. Which it didnt. So At&t;just reaped a massive tax cut despite making billions and they distributed 0% of it to employees.

Nobody is saying people wont benefit from whatever bonuses are offered. But in many cases the bonuses are just a cheap way for the company to appease its employees and make trump's tax plan look good because ultimately they run out the back door with most of the money.

Side: Those bonuses are all fake
1 point

Let's face it, Trump lied (and lied and lied and....) to U.S. about his tax bill.: I'm making a lot of my rich friends mad at me; It's not going to help ME at all; This is the most bigly tax "cut" in history!; All Americans are going to get a YUGE Christmas present. (....and lied and lied and ...!) Conservatives are STILL lying about what they have done to the American taxpayer ...and lying and lying .....

Dems have MUCH shorter noses.

Side: Those bonuses are all fake
1 point

AT&T;, Comcast giving $1,000 bonuses to hundreds of thousands of workers after tax bill

AT&T;is paying bonuses of $1,000 to more than 200,000 U.S. employees.

AT&T;'s CEO said it was in response to tax reform.

https://www.cnbc.com/2017/12/20/tax-reform-reaction-att-is-giving-bonuses-to-200000-employees.html

"Beginning in 2018, we will see benefits from the tax reform ... in the form of lower corporate tax rates," CEO Brian Moynihan said in an internal memo to employees obtained by CNBC.

President Donald Trump signed a bill on Friday that overhauls the U.S. tax code.

Bank of America will give some of its employees a $1,000 bonus, citing the tax bill that was just signed into law.

https://www.cnbc.com/2017/12/22/bank-of-america-is-giving-some-employees-a-1000-bonus-citing-tax-bill.html

Wells Fargo, Fifth Third Bancorp unveil minimum wage hikes after tax bill passage

Fifth Third and AT&T;are paying employees special bonuses after getting tax cuts under the Republican tax plan.

Wells Fargo said Wednesday that it would boost minimum wages for employees to $15 an hour, following Fifth Third's similar announcement.

https://www.cnbc.com/2017/12/20/fifth-third-bancorp-unveils-bonuses-minimum-wage-hike-after-tax-bill-passage.html

Sinclair

"Sinclair Broadcast Group announced Friday it would pay a $1,000 bonus to almost 9,000 of its full-time and part-time employees after the recent passage of the GOP tax bill."

Washington Federal

"Seattle-based banking company Washington Federal said it would give 5?percent merit increases to all employees earning less than $100,000 annually, as well as invest in employee training and technology upgrades, and make a $5 million contribution to its main philanthropy foundation."

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2017/12/22/heres-a-list-or-companies-giving-worker- bonuses-aftee-tax-reform-n2426226

Side: Lied & changed its narrative
1 point

Dems have MUCH shorter noses.

You can keep your doctor Pinnochio.

Side: Lied & changed its narrative