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Liberals: You don't agree with me, thus you are an idiot.

This is the archtypcal response nigh every single time I debate with a liberal; never have I known so closed-minded a bunch!

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I whole-heartedly agree. Every chance I get to speak with one a conversation can only be directed their way. Liberals themselves seem to remain ignorant of this; intentionally or not. Their moronic points of view have lead to their moronic status in this debate, and in the minds of many Conservatives and etc.

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That is what liberals do. They have imperious attitude of superior intelligence that they are always right.

It is this and that, and government is good.

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alex7477 Disputed
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HAHA! This is laughable. Conservatism is one GIANT contradiction. Example; You cant have an abortion, thats insane! The government should do something! But no don't regulate my business, dont tax me, its none of your business!

If you dont get it yet here is the low down. In a conservatives mind, the government can tell you what to do with your body and can tell you who is allowed to get married. But they still believe the government should stay out of our lives.

So for a conservative, the government has merit on moral issues, but when it comes to economic issues, it has no right to tell us what to do. Its ridiculous

Have fun with Sarah Palin, you bunch a morons.

Side: False
Troy8(2433) Disputed
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You are misunderstanding conservatism. I liked PrayerFails simple explanation of it:

Liberalism: Less economic freedom, more personal freedom

Conservatism: More economic freedom, less personal freedom (abortions, gay marriage)

Libertarianism: More economic freedom, more personal freedom

So, now, using your logic, liberalism is also one giant contradiction, which I hardly think is true. You need to think critically before posting something like that, you dimwit.

Side: True
TERMINATOR(6780) Disputed
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Example; You cant have an abortion, thats insane!

Why is that 'insane'? You have a particular worldview - opinion, if you will - and believe that anybody with a different position is just plain wrong. That is both presumptuous.

Take, for instance, native Americans. Many of them live in their large one-roomed houses in which a wood-burning stove rests in the middle, a kitchen in one corner, beds in another corner. There are no internal doors, no room - everything is in that one room. You may consider such a lifestyle to be horrible, and may even attempt to demand that the government do something about such 'primitive' living conditions. That does not mean that those conditions are horrible, simply that you (I'm using that word in a very general manner) are so pigheaded that you desire everybody to conform to your standards. Anybody who deviates is an idiot.

Those Indians may like living in such a house, and would resist feverishly if the government attempted to relocate them to what you would call a 'modern' and 'acceptable' house. Why should they be forced to adapt to your specific worldview?

It's exactly the same with abortion, or any other topic at which people differ. Everybody seems to want to impose their will on society - that their word is supreme and nobody else can do anything about it - but that does not make your opinions, or your morals the best choice for society, simply for yourself.

But no don't regulate my business, dont tax me, its none of your business!

Why is it none of their business? How else are they to pay for the many things which you take for granted: paved roads, schools, police and fire departments, etc., etc.

Side: True
alex7477 Disputed
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"They have imperious attitude of superior intelligence that they are always right."

How could you say this and be taken seriously when the title of all this is "Liberals: You don't agree with me, thus you are an idiot"

Get outta here.

Side: False
Sitara(11080) Disputed
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Oh bullocks. Liberals are some of the best people I have ever known. My experience with conservatism was a nightmare.

Side: False
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I'll have to disagree. There is logic and reason besides both ends of the spectrum. What you are hearing is relative to the person you are debating with and how said person came about their values, not to mention your immediate disposition to your opponent, and the factors that disposition is composed of; such as your ability to emulate, compromise, and respect.

Side: False
FrankS(4) Banned
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Funny, that's exactly the same attitude I get from dimwitted think-they-know-it-all conservatives who say that Liberals are idiots for not agreeing with them! In fact, you are an idiot just for making such a moronic statement.

Side: False
TERMINATOR(6780) Disputed
2 points

I'm an idiot for being smart enough to see past their bullshit?

Side: True
2 points

... that or liberals consistently supply logical facts and statistics to support arguments, as conservatives continue to make up anecdotes and "what if" situations with no basis in reality,

and after such nonsense for 4 or 5 exchanges we say "I give up, you're an idiot."

That has been my experience.

And do you have any links to a debate you won on the conservative side Terminator? Or is it another of those things conservatives just kind of make up after the fact?

Side: False
TERMINATOR(6780) Disputed
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Then why is it that I supply source after source - whereas liberals rarely supply so much as a single source - and yet liberals still consistently claim that my sources are bullshit.

Side: True
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or "You're an idiot because of your source!"

Emotions take over a liberals arguments.

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Bohemian(3860) Disputed
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Like the time you used the lochness monster myth, as evidence humans and dinosaurs co-existed? I still cannot help but to be amused by that. We must remember that it is not QUANTITY but QUALITY that matters when giving sources. If you are listing conspiracy websites, and blogsites as your sources, you are better off using no sources at all.

Side: False
iamdavidh(4856) Disputed
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lol, didn't you recently cite a source on why Obama is evil, from someone who also wrote pieces on separating people by their race? Yes you did, that is a bullshit source.

1. Even with your 6k points I almost gaurantee I've provided more links.

2. Newmax, Fox, and insane people on the internet are not sources.

3. That you have the likes of MegaDittos coming to your defense should give you a clue as to the accuracy of this assertion of yours.

Side: False
1 point

"You don't agree with me, thus you are an idiot."

If you honestly believe that only liberals have this attitude you are either very deep in denial or you have never seen a political debate in your entire life. It's generalizations such as this that is the problem with American politics today. It's to the point where we aren't even discussing issues anymore we're just attacking the other side.

Side: False
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Actually, the farther to a side you are, the more likely you are to be an idiot and mentally unstable. Just listen to talk radio for either side. What ever happened to centrists?

Side: False
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I am from UK > can someone please define for me the American meaning of the term "LIBERAL" ???????

It is possible to have an opinion, it seem to me, without having to be framed into a political label with as many meanings as there are speakers.

Side: False
2 points

Don't listen to Terminator, he turns into a troll after midnight or something.

I feel this is a fair description that does a good job of putting personal opinions aside link

As you can see, theoretically there is something to be said for each side.

To put it into a UK perspective (your party system) - your party system obviously is far different than ours. A US liberal would be a combination of labour, conservative, and lib dem party. The modern US conservative would range anywhere from Conservative to Sinn Fein.

As you would guess from this, US politics is tilted far further right than the European nations, and especially UK and Scandinavian countries. However it should be noted, that because it is a two party system, we have a lot more overlap of ideals within a party.

Many Republicans in the US also bring a new aspect found rarely in Europe, that is a love affair with mixing Politics and Religion. Anywhere from 10-20% of registered Republicans support views that would put religion before state, and make the US a country based on Christian idealism. This though is not the overriding idea behind the Republican party, but a large enough portion that it should be mentioned.

It is actually difficult to compare the systems because different issues such as the above play a far bigger role in our politics, while at the same time, we do not have parties dedicated to things like "Texas Independence" as you do for things like Welsh or Irish Independence.

Side: False
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iamdavidh > Thanks. Thats roughly my impression of US politics. But you have explained it well and given me more to go on.

My experience of some Americans, especially on "debate sites" is that they regard a Liberalist as some kind of Satan. Its as if you are talking about a paedophile !!!!

Side: False
TERMINATOR(6780) Disputed
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Liberals are people who desire to destroy freedom and the American Dream. They think that minorities are more important than the majority, they think that anybody should be allowed to do anything they want to themselves. They think that American soldiers are expendable, just so long as not a single civilian is killed during war.

Side: True
Bohemian(3860) Disputed
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that anybody should be allowed to do anything they want to themselves.

Shouldn't they? As long as they are only hurting themselves then what concern is it of the Government?

They think that American soldiers are expendable, just so long as not a single civilian is killed during war.

Soldiers are willing participants in war, civilians are not. Soldiers are putting their lives on the line to protect civilians, foreign or domestic. This I tell you as an enlisted man myself.

Side: False
Myrtel(54) Disputed
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Terminator > Conservatism is extreme right ??? by definition this must surely restrict freedom !! Politicians decide on when to got to war - just as Blair and Bush GW, invaded Iraq based on lies. Killing hundreds of thousands women and children.

You seem to be saying that you will accept anything as long as it stems from a right wing conservative.

Side: False