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Liberals don't care what the Constitution says

If you bring up the second amendment, they want to burn the Constitution.

If you bring up free speech, they toss out some tortured definition of free speech that says "most speech". Which means politically correct speech. 

Finally, they'll then toss the Constitution back into the ring to defend the media being a propaganda machine not based in reality...

The Constitution is like a light switch to the left. On. Off. On. Off. On. Off....

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Both the liberal and conservative extremes do this. Which technically makes your debate heading true.

You see the problem extremists face is they're referencing a document based on compromises, balance, civil rights, and aiming for enough government to function but not too much to overwhelm. Both the conservative and liberal extremes seek to throw out the balance and go all in on one side or the other. That's why they end up trumpeting one clause and ignoring another. Heck, wasn't there a debate on here yesterday about having a Constitutional convention to change it? Basically, extremists want to take out any hint of compromise and balance, and that's why their missions are fundamentally un-American.

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Hello G:

There WAS one of those debates... GUESS which side DIDN'T offer an opinion????

I'm gonna do an excon MIND MERGE, and bring those question over HERE.. I wonder if I can FORCE 'em to answer.

excon

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FromWithin(5436) Disputed
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As always you try to paint Conservatives as just as bad as Liberals.

You are 100% wrong as per usual. When it comes to the constitution, the Left is the only side calling the Consitution a living document.

Yes, we have had ammednments to it, and Conservatives want ammendments to be few and far between for the very reason of the slippery slope and changes in our culture.

Any ammendment should be supported by both sides, and clearly used when the Constitution does not speak to whatever issue it may be.

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Lets not forget about the 10th amendment, the liberals want to do away with that one while claiming everything on the planet falls under the 14th.

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Both sides are unconstitutional......................................................................................................

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Hello bront:

Clearly, right wingers care LESS about the Constitution.. Right winger Jim DeMint wants a Constitutional convention.. I'm curious as to WHICH rights in the Bill of Rights will make it to the new one..

Talking about the 1st Amendment, will you have the RIGHT to kneel during the Anthem? NO!

Will they REQUIRE a warrant BEFORE they search? NO!

Will they ALLOW torture? YES!

Those are only a few of the differences right wingers want.. Can you name some?

http://www.newsobserver.com/news/politics-government/state-politics/article158431584.html

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Talking about the 1st Amendment, will you have the RIGHT to kneel during the Anthem? NO!

They do have the right to kneel. If I bitch about the kneel, it doesn't mean I "supressed their speech". It means I didn't like their speech and understand the rights of the NFL. Making an NFL rule and throwing a man in prison for speech aren't the same thing. (Zips over con's head).

Interestingly enough, you had no problem with real suppression of speech by violence when ANTIFA tried to shut down non-liberal speakers who included a gay man, a woman, a Jew and an immigrant from India... you praised them point of fact.

So here's your logic.

Giving the finger to the kneel with no violence? Bad.

Burning down buildings, using weapons, rioting, and threatening conservative minority speakers? "Antifascism".

Really?

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Clearly, right wingers care LESS about the Constitution

Yes, that's why you often use the rhetoric, "I thought right wingers were about the Constitution" as though it were common knowledge. You say it because it's true for the right and not for the left. The left will kick any law that gets in their ideology's way to the curb. You know it, and I know it. Your words about the 2nd amendment post Vegas still ring through my ears.

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Sitar(3266) Disputed
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Liberals allow the torture and murder of unborn babies which is unconstitutional......................................................................

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If you think a Steve Bannon supported Constitution will give every person more rights I've got a great bridge I'll sell ya! That IS who will want to be the next John Hancock, (shudder!). A "black" in every garage, a gun in every pocket, no more support for Israel .... (he WILL sell that to the brainwashed conservatives), We will be a GREAT Republic .. like the Republics of China, Cuba, N. Korea, Iran. .. and especially the lost apartheid "Republic of South Africa".

THIS, and ALL other liberals want to KEEP our Constitution, the one WE have fought for as much OR MORE than conservatives! (Many rich ones have heel spurs, etc.!)Your attempt at telling liberals what they think is not as effective as what Faux and Breitbart does to the minds of gullible conservatives ... not even a nice try!

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if you think a Steve Bannon supported Constitution will give every person more rights I've got a great bridge I'll sell ya!

What more rights do you want? The Constitution already covers our rights. It came pre Bannon...

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We will be a GREAT Republic .. like the Republics of China, Cuba, N. Korea

Bannon, not a leftist, wants us to be Marxist Communists? I'm almost convinced that you're wearing a helmet and carrying a drool bucket...

Of course I'm glad that your leftist arguments aren't coherant, logical, or based in reality. Keep selling this Pilosi-esque drivel and we'll never see another liberal President again.

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THIS, and ALL other liberals want to KEEP our Constitution

And yet libs praised ANTIFA for using violence and arson to kill free speech, all while condemning the second amendment...

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AlofRI(1832) Clarified
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I don't know of ANY liberals who praised ANTIFA for using violence OR arson and VERY few condemn the 2nd! We praise ANY antifascist movement when peaceful. It wasn't a liberal who said "there were very nice people on both sides." There are NO nice people on the Fascist side ... and that includes Bannon! The Second Amendment needs to stay, but not as an anti-American Government amendment, and NOT as a permission for terrorists to obtain anti-American weapons or any "Tomdick" and Harry to be able to outgun our police (or mow down concert goers!).

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the one WE have fought for as much OR MORE than conservatives

1)Most military personel are Conservatives.

2)Last I checked, the right freed the Democrats' slaves, took down Jim Crow, and had to fight the dems on the civil rights movement of which they opposed.

3)I'm sure the children of Quakers (ultra conservative by definition),who fought the British, were libs....

4)When Muslims kill gays and oppress women? Not a peep from the left. So what have you guys "fought" for again? Communism last I checked .

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AlofRI(1832) Clarified
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During WW2 MOST were blue collar workers. I'd be willing to bet many of them had "heel spurs" and went anyway! Not only Muslims oppress gays and suppress women, American religions AND businesses do also ... and the left has been "peeping for years" about equality, maternity leave and equal pay for women. We HATE communism, it's not US that are under investigation. You'll remember who Putin tried to STOP from winning the election by spreading anti-liberal propaganda to keep Hillary (whom he HATED) from winning! Trump STILL refuses to condemn Putin OR communism (or Fascism)! Yes, I'm sure many Quakers are liberals, just like many Baptists, Catholics, Congregationalists, Jews, etc.. Liberals go to church every week, just like conservatives. The Democrats that had slaves were disowned by the party (or they disowned the party), and the southern conservatives welcomed them with open arms .... and closed minds!

You obviously get your information from Faux News and Fascist Breitbart ... all REALLY FAKE NEWS! Truman, Ike, Kennedy, Johnson, Nixon, Ford, Carter, Reagan, GHW, Clinton, Dubya, Obama ALL fought communism .. six of the twelve were Democrats (liberals). Every President fought against communism since FDR ... last I checked .. until NOW!

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I don't know about all liberals - there are some on either side of the aisle that apparently don't care, but I can speak for myself, and that alone invalidates blanket statements.

The Constitution was written by heroes of mine,and while there are flaws in any document, it comes closest of all to establishing as perfect a society and government as I've seen, and I love the words on that paper.

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