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No more boyscouts Libs destroy all they touch
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Libs demanded girls be allowed in Boyscouts. Now they're going bankrupt

No more boyscouts

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Libs destroy all they touch

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It's better to go bankrupt than become racist sexist homophobic and transphobic like Adolph Hitler!!!!! .

Side: No more boyscouts
marcusmoon(580) Clarified
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It's better to go bankrupt than become racist sexist homophobic and transphobic like Adolph Hitler!!!!! .

What you say is certainly true, but it has nothing to do with the Boy Scouts of America.

Side: No more boyscouts
DanBongino(111) Disputed
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It's better to go bankrupt than become racist sexist homophobic and transphobic like Adolph Hitler!!!!!

Not condemning Islamic sexism, homophobia and Hitler worship today are you oats?

Side: Libs destroy all they touch
BigOats(1341) Clarified
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I was obviously saying it in jest. A parody can sometimes achieve more than a factual statement.

Side: No more boyscouts
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Boy Scouts are for boys, Girl Scouts are for girls. If you biologically aren't either, lucky you, pick a side. Stop getting angry because your daughter is being oppressed by the "evil white men".

Side: Libs destroy all they touch
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Girls being allowed into the Boy Scouts of America (BSA) has nothing to do with the bankruptcy. According to the article (not the headline), the bankruptcy is the result of sex abuse litigation, and the associated costs.

Most likely causes of the decline in BSA membership have nothing to do with girls being allowed or not, but rather with cultural changes in the US, particularly the gravitation toward electronic media for entertainment.

The independence and self-sufficiency that the BSA works to foster is at odds with the near-constant attachment to social media and video games that is a hallmark of the main cultural difference between Gen X and the following generation. This is too bad, because the values, behaviors, and capabilities the Boy Scouts has always been dedicated to teaching are urgently needed.

The core of the BSA mission has always been to teach boys how to be men in the best sense, specifically so that they can make the society better for all.

Our culture has a crisis of manhood. Our boys are increasingly growing up without fathers in the home, our schools are failing our boys, MGTOW is on the rise, and young men are increasingly turning away from the voluntary responsibilities we need them to take up. Scouts is one of the last institutions built around turning boys into men, and dedicated to making them the sort of men that have always been the pillars of a just, safe, and prosperous society.

Despite being a generally conservative organization, the Boy Scout values are pretty universal.

A Scout is:

Trustworthy

Loyal

Helpful

Friendly

Courteous

Kind

Obedient

Cheerful

Thrifty

Brave

Clean

Reverent

These qualities support the goals and needs of everybody, anywhere on the political spectrum. These are values that support the integrity we need from our politicians, the sense of care and responsibility to the common good we need from our CEOs and financiers, the respect and fair-mindedness we need from our law enforcement officers, the willingness to help others and treat people well that we need from everybody.

If you are one of those who thinks being dedicated to turning boys into men makes the BSA a misogynist organization, consider that the goals of the #metoo movement are best served by the kind of men who embody these Boy Scout qualities, and live out these values. As much to the point, the very need for the #metoo movement is exactly those men who have not embraced the qualities the Boy Scouts organization teaches.

Side: Libs destroy all they touch
BigOats(1341) Disputed
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Girls being allowed into the Boy Scouts of America (BSA) has nothing to do with the bankruptcy......the bankruptcy is the result of sex abuse litigation, and the associated costs.

And the sex abuse litigations, more likely than not, are a result of policies that have allowed openly gay people to become boyscout leaders.

Side: No more boyscouts
marcusmoon(580) Clarified
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And the sex abuse litigations, more likely than not, are a result of policies that allow openly gay people to become boyscout leaders.

It is hard to tell.

The vast majority of child molesters (of boys) are not openly gay.

The vast majority of openly gay people do not molest children.

Were any of these molestations committed by openly gay Scout leaders?

My tendency is to interpret the cause of the molestation more in terms of some people are good at hiding how [email protected]$#ed up they are, and when this is combined with there being fewer adult men (e.g., dads) involved in their sons' lives, including scouting activities, there is more opportunity for molesting lowlifes to be alone with vulnerable kids.

Molesters target marginalized, insecure, and needy kids. These qualities correlate more highly with boys growing up without dads in the home (for likely the same reason that criminality, low high school graduation rates correlate with absent fathers.)

What happens to our sons, and what they become is strongly influenced by whether the men who are supposed to be responsible for them actually step up. and are faithful to that responsibility.

Side: No more boyscouts