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Martin Luther King would shake his hand at the modern left's claims on race

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Bronto, there are lots of great arguments and examples in this clip and I won't be so foolish as to argue African Americans are not responsible for their own successes and failures. It's not an all or nothing scenario though, meaning it isn't completely their own fault vs completely society's fault, it's a blend. Before the civil rights movement they were on the side of the scale closer to society's fault, now they've slid the other way on the scale. That doesn't give a free pass to society, though.

I also find it highly suspicious that when they get to problem number one it's "Progressivism." If you conservatives ever hope to be taken seriously you're going to have to stop targeting that word like it's the modern equivalent of Nazism. It basically reveals in the end this is a well crafted propaganda tool, not just a sincere appeal from within the African American community.

And on a personal note, I believe the financial trends of the last half century are a big part in the whole of society. Vastly diminished disposable income, vastly expanded personal debt, home buying out of reach of many, and on and on. Families don't stay together like they used to in part because they're broke, and young families try to make a go and end up unable to afford to have kids until they're almost too old biologically to have them, OR, they storm ahead and have them anyway and it all falls apart.

Anyway, I don't expect to persuade you, but I had to say it.

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It basically reveals in the end this is a well crafted propaganda tool, not just a sincere appeal from within the African American community

Larry Elder is? Bwahahahahaha! Yes, he and Malcolm X, Allen West, Ben Carson, Larry Elder Etc were/are bots crafted in some right wing propaganda conspiracy... we even spray painted them all black to make it seem real...

Side: False
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vastly expanded personal debt

That's because libs keep sending their kids after liberal arts degrees that pay nothing but cost bookoos to get while conservatives send their kids to get degrees and certificates to real jobs that pay real wages.

Side: False
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home buying out of reach of many, and on and on

If only we hadn't had the mindless liberal immigration policies all of this time. Imagine all of that cheap land that would still be available to purchase...

Side: False
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Families don't stay together like they used to in part because they're broke

The Great Depression magically didn't have the same effect. It's an excuse...or maybe it's magic....

Side: False
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"Progressivism." If you conservatives ever hope to be taken seriously you're going to have to stop targeting that word like it's the modern equivalent of Nazism

1)We won the Presidency and are up against a cast of characters so bat shit crazy that it almost doesn't feel real. Between Pelosi, Waters, Warren and others.....it looks like the cast of a movie called "Nuts".

2)They praise ANTIFA, a group who has used violence with weapons and masks, firebombs and attacks on police to shut down speeches by women, gays, Jews and immigrants simply because they aren't liberals. Call it anything you want.

3)If you look a true liberal in the eye and call them a Communist, they don't realize it was meant as an insult...

Side: False
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and young families try to make a go and end up unable to afford to have kids

And yet during the Great Depression people had 10 kids. It doesn't seem to be slowing down Mexicans or Muslims either...

Side: False
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Well, when you're poor and depressed there isn't much more to do than get it on.

Side: True
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