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Challenge Debate: Marxism Vs. Capitalism

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Jupiter(116)

Marxism

Side Score: 3
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Sujato1004(5)

Capitalism

Side Score: 4
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Very true my friend, in fact its last step is anarchy. Which is awesome an utopian. But impossible, I am a Marxist because if you don't believe than it will never happen. But I believe a combination would go well. What's your opinion

Side: Marxism
1 point

Hm. Well one ideology that has become popular is democratic socialism. its capitalism but it has socialist ties. With cheaper healthcare and cheaper education, more of a for the people with respect to corporation's, not for corporation with respect toward the people.

Side: Marxism
1 point

My friend I thank you, for many people are arrogant and selfish in there belief. I might want Marxism, but I understand I have to be realistic. I know it wouldn't work at the rate Marx said it had to be. I'm also working on an idea of mixing a communist society with a meritocracy. The more hours or how effect you are is what you get in life.

Now I don't have the time of course to sit and think how every little thing would work. It takes dozens of people to do it even when all there time is devoted to it. So usually its hard to protect Marxism ( and I mean pure, not Stalin or Lenin's stuff. Marxism meant to make everyone equal and then when everything was put into place the government would dissemble . Something conservatives love, "no government". Now Marxs idea was the people rise against the corrupt government where only corporations get money and they've infested the government, and then they use the government resources to disperse the wealth and make it so the rich isn't rich and the poor aren't poor. And then once classes have dissembled, the State would go, and it would be small community's working together. Like how native Americans were but more modernized, they were communist in some regard, believeing you cant own land and people borrowed it from the earth for the time they needed it for.

I honestly think conservatives would like that idea, but most of them don't get past " government runs everything" so. Because they don't want government interfering in economics and there lives (but wanting them restricting social things idk why) So I think controlled anarchy where there is this community of people, everyone does what is needed for the thriving in the community, maybe an elder who advises but doesn't command and theres a group vote. But communism is just anarchy but a controlled form.

Side: Marxism
1 point

Marxism advocates the foundation or rather creation of an ideal human being which is not possible. I don't think there is any point pursuing such a philosophy whose pinnacle no one will ever reach

Side: Capitalism
1 point

Can you please clarify what you mean by a combination friend?

Side: Capitalism
1 point

I too support your perspective. I believe absolutism has no place in the dynamic ambience of the modern world. A synthesis is as inevitable as it is essential. I think, a synthesis of sorts was seen in the New Economic Policy of Lenin. Also, to ensure a succesful running of the Democratic Socialism, public funding of elections is absolutely essential. The more exclusive the better

Side: Capitalism
1 point

You no doubt have a very good grasp and strong belief. But one thing, Marxist communities in some countries restrict the growth of corporations to a certain level. That is not justified IMO. The government, instead of trying to pull down wealthy people should work more towards the upliftment of the poorer section.

Just for the sake of curiosity,can you tell me about your occupation?

Side: Capitalism
Jupiter(116) Clarified
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As of now I am within a career of education so that I may get a well paying job.

And yes putting too many restrictions can be bad. But giving billions of dollars in "corporate welfare" as they do in the U.S is not needed.

If I may be honest with you. I'm 16. I've actually been applying for jobs and doing yard work for cash. I Got some work lined up for tomorrow. and id also like to apologize for me not being active. I've been studying for exams.

But I have been studying political philosophy for a while. Even signed up for a "camp" of sorts where I spent the weekend

12 hours a day for three days studying and working. And it was for conservatives and I was the only liberal to attend and was jeered because of it. And I was the youngest attendee.

Mostly middle aged persons and some in there 30s and 20s. Even after the day sessions were over we debated long into the night in the lounge.

But I studied philosophical politics fir a few years, not even caring about "republican vs democrat" and I learned that the left side of the spectrum appealed to me the most. Then got into American politics and got disgusted because of the horrid and unbelievable thoughts of some people.

Side: Marxism