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Marxist Socialists want 3 things: Total state control, free stuff, and anarchy

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I don't consider myself a Marxist, maybe because I'm a socialist (a "democratic one"), that wants three things. (1). The government given BACK to the people. Trumps "government" is dedicated TO state control … and HE wants to be the STATE! (2). I want to see the "free stuff" given to the 1% (and a few "loyalists"), STOPPED! It should be given BACK to the people who WORKED FOR IT! The diversion between the capitalists and the PEOPLE is un-American! The PEOPLE no longer control the "state"!

As for anarchy, you obviously are a Trump supporter. if YOU don't want it, better get out of the conservative, white nationalist, movement! Anarchy turns socialism communistic! Anarchy will NOT exist with a "Second Amendment"! Putin and Trump are anarchists, the WORLD recognizes that fact, the only ones that DON'T are the ones who believe half of America (the LEFT part), wants it! Wanting the PEOPLE running the "state" AGAIN, is anything BUT that!

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I don't consider myself a Marxist, maybe because I'm a socialist (a "democratic one"), that wants three things. (1). The government given BACK to the people

This was exactly what Marx himself wanted. If you believe the tripe about Marx wanting to expand the state into a dictatorship then I am afraid you may have been taken in by the right wing propaganda which saturates American media. In a true Communist/Socialist society dictatorship is impossible because the predominant purpose of these systems is to decentralise power. Dictatorship requires a centralisation of power and hence the right is turning the truth upside down -- something I have noticed they do a lot.

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Amarel(5669) Clarified
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I am afraid you may have been taken in by the right wing propaganda which saturates American media

If by “right wing propaganda” you mean The Communist Manifesto, then this bit makes sense.

Shall we start quoting Marx again?

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AlofRI(3294) Clarified
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Well, I guess Stalin's society wasn't a socialist/communist regime after all. The right will be SOOO disappointed! Trump is working for a "centralization of power, with HIM as the "center". And I DON'T believe the "tripe". You seem SO determined to be rig … er … correct above anyone else that you make up your own interpretations of what someone says! Kinda like "turning the truth upside down."

Trump never had a Board of Directors in his vast businesses, he wants to make ALL decisions himself …. a dictator! NO ONE tells Putin what to do, a dictator! Stalin was the only voice that counted in the USSR, a dictator! You say dictatorship is impossible in a communist/socialist society?? I don't think the older Russian people would agree! Dictatorship ISN'T possible in a democratic society, whether it is socialist or NOT! Trump isn't convinced.

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