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Matt Damon's take on Sarah Palin

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Matt Damon on Sarah Palin

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Winning Side!
10 points

I agree that the idea of a book-banning fundamentalist political novice, chosen for purely cynical and calculated reasons, and more likely than any past VP to become president via sudden death, is terrifying. The facts that she belongs to a church preaching end times theology and condemns Jews and secular Americans as evil, lies readily about her record, and is an anti-environment proxy for the oil industry makes it even scarier. You want to see continued paralysis of effective action on climate change, continued movement toward theocracy, and war with Iran? If so, vote for McCain and Palin.

Side: Accurate

Lets see now. Matt Damon is an idiot is he? Did you know that he dropped out of Harvard 12 credits short of graduating to pursue his acting career? Did you know his mother was a college professor? Yeah, we don't want to listen to him. He's just a dummy who happens to be a great actor! What does he know. Why people ALWAYS put down actors and actresses when they come out for the candidate they believe in and like is beyond me. They're no different than you or I with the exception of the amount of money they make! Isn't is just possible that some of these people care just as much as we do about what's going on here in America and the government we so desperately want to change? It's real simple...someone asked him his views and he answered. If you were the "man in the street" and some news person came up to you and shoved a microphone in your face, asked you what you think about Palin, you'd answer! But you're just "the man in the street"...what do you know?

He's right on about Palin...no ifs ands or buts.

Side: Accurate
6 points

i love when people want to generalize celebrities as unintelligent when it comes to politics. as if matt damon is on the same political and intellectual playing field as jessica alba or p. diddy. as if it's out of the realm of possibility that someone who makes films for a living, could actually read a newspaper regularly or want to be well informed.

matt damon's claim that he doesn't know anything about sarah palin and that he doesn't think he will in 8 weeks is perfectly justifiable and accurate. there isn't a single person on this website or any other website who is demonizing matt damon, who actually did know who sarah palin was before the end of august. and i don't mean her name and profession, i mean who she was, her political views, her religious views, her history of requesting government earmarks, etc.

both john mccain and barack obama, love 'em or hate 'em have been in the public eye and under a microscope for years. you pretty much know as much as you can about either candidate and have formulated your opinion one way or another. i think what matt damon was saying is this woman will become john mccain's successor if god forbid, something happens to mccain in his first term. you're talking about a relative unknown, a hockey mom from a small town in alaska, becoming the most powerful leader in the free world. it is COMPLETELY absurd.

Side: Accurate
Inkwell(328) Disputed
2 points

I would rather take the chance that a hockey mom MIGHT be president than guarantee that someone who can attend a racist hate mongering church for twenty years, twice a month by his own estimation and NOT know the racist views of its pastor is president. I would rather take a chance that someone I don't know well with a decade of executive experience become president than guarantee someone I don't know who has the same amount of legislative experience is president. I would rather take the chance that a governor with a 65% approval rating might be president than guarantee that a senator who is part of a congress which can barely break into double digit approval rating is president. Would I rather have a president who serves on boards with terrorists and is willing to talk to terrorist nations with no preconditions and know sophisticated understanding of diplomacy and how meeting with them plays back in their own country or one who stands clearly on the side of this country and believes it does the work of good. Is anything more absurd than believing a man who says he will cut taxes for 95% of all Americans? Who can believes this stuff when it comes out of his mouth during one of his sermons . . . I mean speeches? Who can hear him say he wants to create a national civilian security force and not think "police state"? Who can hear him say he wants that force to be as well equipped and funded as the combined US military? So he is going to create a new agency with funding equal to the Dept of Defense AND cut taxes for 95% of Americans? You want absurd? Another Democrat saying he will cut waste(as if we have never heard that before) spend tons more on new entitlement programs, move the country further into socialism, AND cut taxes on 95% of all Americans. I can't help but wonder if he realizes that nowhere near 95% of all Americans even PAY federal taxes. Absurd? What is absurd is that people hear this nonsense and buy into it.

Now I know he didn't mean a national police force. I know he meant Americorps and Peace Corps and all of that. But he clearly said it should be funded as well as the military. So either he is going to create a new line item of an extra half trillion dollars or reduce military spending by half to reallocate that money to his new civilian security force. Absurd is all of the acolytes who listen to the Obamassiah preach that he is the one we have all been waiting for and how he will bring the light and then hear this kind of typical Democrat "new math" and think he is a change from the typical Dem. Now if all you care about is changing from a white guy to a black guy, from a Republican to a Democrat, I guess you won't be disappointed. But if by change you mean changing the bitter partisan gotcha politics that stalemate DC and keep us from moving forward because the pols wont tackle the hard problems, that change resides in only one of the two men. McCain is the one who his party has reviled for being willing to buck the party machine and do the right thing. Obama? Well he did get a partisan bill to tighten up control of rogue nukes. That took a huge measure of backbone and courage; I am sure he faced a lot of party opposition to THAT issue and only pursued it at great personal cost. He DID support campaign finance reform . . . until it came time to put his campaign where his mouth was. Then he wasn't prepared to give up the cash fueling his campaign for his principles. So it has to be asked . . . Does he have any core principles? Something he would stick to even if it cost him the election?

McCain has sucked up to his core which he doesn't agree with and who doesn't agree with him. No question he has played politics. But he has NOT abandoned any of his core beliefs. He has played the game enough to mention judges they approve of. He has picked a conservative Veep instead of Lieberman or whoever he might have preferred. But he has NOT done anything as blatantly hypocritical as abandoning his supposed core belief on Campaign finance to get elected.

Matt Damon? Who cares. Each of us thinks our opinion is important enough or interesting enough to come to this site and post it so why should Matt Damon be any different. Are we just jealous he has a larger podium than we do? Have at it Matt . . . Better than listening to Brooke Hogan spout off that a woman shouldn't be president because she gets all moody and hormonal during menopause and her monthly menstrual cycle.

Absurd? I guess we each have our own definition of the word.

Side: Misguided
tclass(14) Disputed
4 points

An obviously intelligent and well thought out response is marred when you levy sensationalistic claims against Barack Obama in an attempt to make him appear less qualified. The McCain Campaign ad committee would do well to pick your brain. And while my original post was little more than an attempt to defend the idea that an unqualified hockey mom from Alaska, who put her ignorance on display last night when discussing issues like the Bush Doctrine and a potential war with Russia, could potentially lead the free world, I felt compelled to respond.

If you know that Barack Obama didn't mean a national police force then why would you paint that picture and resurrect ridiculous Republic fear mongering rhetoric that the majority of the country would be too stupid to understand? There are people in middle America who saw a widely circulated internet video and said they "would never vote for Barack because he a damn Muslim". Let’s not get into the dangers of discussing church affiliations. Palin’s Pentecostal Church whose pastor tells people they will go to hell for voting democrat doesn’t seem nearly as frightening to people who live in a society built upon the idea of separation of church and state.

To my original point, telling people that Barack Obama's plan to increase service opportunities through government funded civilian initiatives in an effort to create jobs and inspire a shared sense of civic responsibility is some sort of Orwellian "police state" is in a word...absurd. Yes we do all have our opinion of the word.

It’s so typical that the right would rather demonize Obama with monikers like "Obammasiah" and juxtaposing a single governor's approval rating with the rating of a Senate (which Barack hasn't been a member of long enough anyway, right?) comprised of 100 people, 49 Democrats, 49 Republicans and 2 independents than highlight the ways in which John McCain will change Washington. Although, I guess we could expect change from John McCain. However according to this argument, "he [McCain] has NOT abandoned any of his core beliefs". Do you mean core beliefs like Economic policy? In which McCain voted against the George Bush tax cuts - twice, and was castigated by Mitt Romney for his failure of "Reaganomics 101", only to recant and now favor making the Bush cuts permanent by the end of his first term because no Republican candidate for President could ever favor tax cuts. McCain learned that in 2000. Or maybe his core beliefs are more accurately reflected in his "bucking of the party machine" on Environmental policy. McCain originally opposed lifting a ban on offshore drilling but I think anyone who watched the RNC will recall the most ridiculous mob-mentality chant of "Drill baby drill" I've ever heard. I'd love to get a percentage of the number of people chanting "drill baby drill" at the Republican convention who have actually read any article with experts who know a lot more about the situation than these people could ever purport to know. Offshore drilling is such a stop-gap measure that would never end our dependence on foreign oil despite the 86 billion barrels we may dig up, and would only offer a brief respite to the increasing gas prices which would have short-sighted Republicans saying, "We did it" (most likely in some sort of awkward unified chant) right before the bubble bursts and we're paying $8.00 a gallon.

But I digress. McCain is the candidate of change. He's changed enough since 2000, when I was actually a McCain supporter, to placate to the Neo-Cons of the Republican party and become their nominee. McCain has sucked up to his core so much that it's no longer visible.

Side: Accurate
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-2 points
4 points

As a voting American I think that even celebrities have the right to their opinion about government and the process by which we elect these people, and weather or not they are qualified for the job. Celebrities have become politicians so who is to say that they don't know just as much about the issues as everyone else, maybe sometimes they know more. All I know is that he has the right to his opinion, that's America.

Side: Accurate

You are 100 % correct. He is entitled to his opinion. I just don't want to hear it ;) I mean, to suggest that a creationist should never be president is just plain stupid. Especially when you consider all past presidents. How many of them were Darwinists?

Side: Misguided

Well it seems some people have an issue with the fact that he's an actor. How about we get another view.

Why Sarah Palin shouldn't be VP
Side: Accurate
3 points

Ronald Regan and Arnold Schwarzenegger.

Anyone else see the insane irony of all the crazy ranting on the other side of this issue? So actors are all dumb, unless their Conservative? hmm...

For what it's worth, Matt Damon is right on in his assessment.

And wasn't the main complaint about Obama, like a week ago from republicans, experience? Jeez, your hypocricy knows no bound.

At any rate, I'm not sure if I said this before on this site or somewhere else, but it seems to me more and more many republicans look at politics more like a sport, where they will always root for the hometeam no matter how much they suck, even if they pay off the refs, even if they're single handedly taking down the entire sport in their effort to win the championship.

Side: actors
Inkwell(328) Disputed
1 point

1. I assume you are not addressing me as I said nothing about Damon being an actor. I said he is too ignorant to take seriously or frankly even listen to. I AM on the other side of the issue but have said nothing about which side of the aisle his sympathies lie with. He is a moron because he is a moron. I don't know if he is liberal or conservative. I don't see how it is germane but YOU are here joining the folks you are dissing in making it about party or political bent.

Damon said many things. What are you agreeing with? That dinosaurs ruled the land 4,000 years ago? That someone who believes in creationism shouldn't be allowed to be Veep?

Why is it that you don't understand the difference between the president and the vice president? Obama and Palin are running for different jobs. The two jobs don't have the same needs. She has MORE executive experience than Obama. She has a similar number of years in public service. Her experience just plain isn't as big an issue as his. Yet you are willing to vote a lightweight empty suit as President while blasting her for her lack of experience . . . which is similar to his. And he is coming out of the single most corrupt Democratic machine in the whole country. All the screams and whining of Democrats would carry a lot more weight with me if every dead resident of every cemetery in Cook County, Ill hadn't voted Dem for 4 decades or more.

I agree with your assessment of politics resembling rooting for a sports team but you are lying to your self if you think Democrats are any different. I can provide dozens of examples if you like.

Side: Misguided

I agree. I up voted you again.

Side: Misguided
1 point

"republicans look at politics more like a sport, where they will always root for the hometeam no matter how much they suck, even if they pay off the refs, even if they're single handedly taking down the entire sport in their effort to win the championship."

BRAVO (aplauds) Well said.

You nailed it. I have been trying to come up with a way to describe this republican thing and you just said it perfectly.

Side: Accurate
0 points

I think that Democrats drink the cool-aid and close their minds, ears, and eyes to anything that challenges their world view. :P

Side: Misguided
1 point

You did not specify what Matt Damon's assessment is so I will assume that you mean that creationist should not be president. If I'm wrong in my assumption, please forgive me and explain. Now, assuming that my assumption is correct, What about Obama? Is he a creationist?

Side: Misguided
0 points

Matt is right on the money, Palin is a douche....nuff said...

Side: Accurate
2 points

Honestly, I agree it Matt Damon's take on Palin. I was a little bit nervous when I first started watching this video because celebrities have a tendency to botch whatever kind of political message they are trying to make. However, I found myself pleased that Damon stated his case with poise and backed it up with some powerful open-ended questions:

- Does Sarah Palin believe that dinosaurs roamed the Earth 40,000 years ago?

- Did Sarah Palin try to ban books when she was the Mayor of Wasilla?

- Are we watching a really bad Disney movie here?

Side: Accurate
Inkwell(328) Disputed
3 points

listen to the end of the interview again. Damon CLEARLY said he needs to know if Palin believes dinosaurs were here FOUR THOUSAND YEARS AGO . . . NOT 40 but 4 . . . and the statement should have been 65 MILLION not 40 THOUSAND ANYWAY according to latest isotopic methods of dating. Perhaps the more important question is whether MATT DAMON believes there were dinosaurs here four OR forty thousand years ago!

Banning books is a legit question. The other two? powerful?

Side: Misguided
xosweteangel(2) Disputed
3 points

I'm pretty sure that's the point. Creationists believe that God created the world 6,000 years ago. By wondering out loud if she believed dinosaurs were around 4,000 years ago means he is wondering if she is really a die-hard creationist as her opponents would have people believe.

Side: Accurate
2 points

Great point...I have confirmed, he does say 4000 years ago.

Side: Misguided
iamdavidh(4856) Disputed
1 point

Well, I think the point of the 4 thousand years ago thing was that she doesn't believe in evolution.

You're right though that he should have looked that up first. Republicans will grasp at any minor, inconsequential, completely frivilous detail in order to avoid an actual debate.

Side: Accurate
1 point

What difference does it make if she doesn't know when Dinosaurs roamed the Earth? There's nothing in the constitution that bars her from being president because of her beliefs. Further more, her beliefs are not going to come into play because there are checks and balances against that. Finally, I'm not aware of a point in time where the president need to know when Dinosaurs where in existence.

Side: Misguided
5 points

It makes a difference because empirical evidence has proven the existence of dinosaurs 65,000 years ago.

It is a silly example but it is a litmus test from which one can infer her approach to issue analysis, problem solving, and leadership skills.

Side: Misguided
iamdavidh(4856) Disputed
0 points

The point is, if on believes something contrary to such solid scientific evidence, what else will they believe? What other science will she ignore? If an astroid is found hurtling toward the earth, and we have the science to blast it out of the sky, will she say that we shouldn't because it's god's will the earth is destroyed?

If they come up with a shot that a girl can take when she's say 12 or 13 that prevents a cancerous STD, say HPV for example, will she be against it based strictly on the idea girls shouldn't have sex until marriage? (I would like someone to ask if she's giving her daughters those shots in the debates, they probably won't though)

The point is, just how dumb a potential president do we want? Bush wasn't dumb enough for your party?

Side: Accurate
2 points

Matt Damon is for the most part accurate on his opinion on Sarah Palin. She was mayor of a small town in Alaska, where I'm sure the population isnt as great as many places here in California or other parts of the US. And she also was only Governor for 2 years. That is nearly not enough experience to become the Vice Presidential nominee, or perhaps even the President of the United States someday. She was only picked my McCain because she is a woman, and many feminists will vote for the pair soley based on that fact. There are many other Republicans more qualified to be McCain's potential Vice President, one with more experience and knows more about national and global issues, as opposed to Palin who has only dealt with issues on a city and barely, a state level. I do feel Matt Damon was a little rude, however pretty much what he said was accurate.

Side: Accurate
1 point

I so agree with him. She is war hungrier than Bush and she is incapable to tell the truth about anything. For a woman to vote for her just because she is a woman, is stupidity.

Side: Accurate
2 points

What evidence do you have to back up your claim?

Side: Misguided
0 points

I so agree with him. She is war hungrier than Bush and she is incapable to tell the truth about anything. For a woman to vote for her just because she is a woman, is stupidity.

Side: Accurate
Inkwell(328) Disputed
6 points

Is it any more stupid than all the blacks who are absolutely going to vote for Obama just because he is black? Or all the people who will vote for one or the other strictly because of party affiliation. As for Palin being "war hungry", you just made a statement about yourself, not about her. I listened to silly twits make similar statements about Reagan, I will not sit by silently and listen you YOU, just another silly twit repeat history. You are entitled to your opinion, you are entitled to express your opinion. I am equally entitled to write off any opinion you have as the product of an insufficient amount of intellectual horsepower to push a marble downhill. If there is a candidate already proven to be a liar it is obama so your accusations ring hollow.

Side: Misguided
2 points

You have no evidence for any of these comments.

Side: Misguided
0 points

woop woop go Matt Damon!!! i think Sarah Palin is a idiot and very inexperienced she should not be the next VP no way and yes McCain will probably die of a heart attack sooner or later and you don't want Sarah Palin running the show i mean her kids names are trig and track what the fuck is with that! she is going to screw America up! and do you you really want nuclear weapons in her hands!! and have you heard her debates i mean come on you got shut down every single time and you didn't even put up a good fight. seriously she was beaten and shot and shat on i mean come on she didn't even defend McCain. no vp should be allow that to happen to make them and there president look like an idiot i mean come on this is a big role and she should not be allowed to have a chance of getting the position EVER!!!!

Side: Accurate
0 points

I know, just another legitimate voter, valid opinion - misguided only because of celebrity status.

I love it though! I'm gonna hide too!

Only I really think we're safe. :)

Sarah Scares Me!!!
Side: Accurate
-1 points

The only difference between me and Matt Damon in this instance, is that he has the means to make his voice heard. He is a voter who has real and legitimate concerns as do many of the rest of us non-actor voters.

What is even more scary than the prospect of Sarah Palin in office is that 50% of Americans fell to their knees for her on a whim. Although she prefers polar bears, moose, and wolves, I have no doubt that she will shoot at sheep if you give her the opportunity.

If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man.

-St.Francis of Assisi

Side: Accurate
2 points

If you have women who will abort an unborn child and thus exclude him from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have women who will deal likewise with their fellow man.

-Joe Cavalry

And what's scarier is not that 50% of Americans swooned all over Obama, fell to their knees for him on a whim, but that after the initial worshiping they still refuse to consider the possibility that his acquaintances may not bode well for this country.

Side: Misguided
Jamais(268) Disputed
4 points

Nice twist on St.Francis. We could insert all kinds of variables into that. If you have leaders that send young men off to die in an unprovoked war... If you have government who decides that lethal injection exempt from the sixth commandment...

You see where I'm going.

I don't believe that abortion is right - I believe that it is beyond the reach of government. I am Catholic and have thought long and hard about this issue. I am at peace with my own opinion. I don't answer to you about it.

On a whim??? I knew after hearing Obama's 04' keynote that he was destined for something great. So did my republican Grandfather who simply said "he'll be president one day". Obama came to my small town, and spoke to us from our high school gym. He shook my hand. I would have went to hear Hillary and McCain speak but they were nowhere around. I have worked my tail off with the local campaign office because I believe so strongly - not a whim. I would hardly call this primary season a whim. Obama fought hard to to run a different kind of campaign and it worked. There was no whim.

Is this just another of your self righteous debates - where you know the outcome and watch as all the pawns blunder under your plan? I don't think so. You say you keep telling everyone that you aren't biased. Ok then you can stop being biased.

Idiot wind.

Side: Accurate
2 points

I find it very difficult to think intelligent American citizens would entertain thoughts of relevance blubbered forth from any actor, musician, news commentators, or political commentators. Please seek out and develop your own thoughts based on research from alternative sources.

Side: Misguided
RevFred(349) Disputed
3 points

I find it very difficult to think any of those people are somehow less relevant as commentators than 'random guy on the internet who likes ScoobyDoo'. Yes, you should get your information from different sources, but you should never discount someones opinion just because of what they do.

Side: Accurate
2 points

Agreed! But you can discount their argument as nonsense. He's implying that Palin doesn't have good problem solving abilities because she's a creationist.

That's like saying, we are going to give you a math test. The test will consist of one, and only one, question (let's say, a calculus problem, for the sake of argument). If you get that question wrong, then you know nothing about calculus, math, issue analysis, problem solving and/or leadership skills.

If you want to know Sarah's problem solving abilities, then give her a test designed to measure her problem solving abilities. Don't judge her on one question that wasn't designed to test her problem solving abilities.

Side: Misguided

I want to go on record. I up voted you.

Side: Misguided
0 points

I agree. Voters should not make such an important decision based on what a celebrity thinks. Check the facts yourself.

Side: Misguided
-7 points
Mahollinder(893) Disputed
0 points

Even an idiot can make excellent points. And in this case, this idiot made excellent points.

But I have to ask you, on what grounds do you suggest most actors or actresses are idiots? Are we to believe that they don't read newspapers, books, are not interested in learning, nor have an interest in Politics?

Are we supposed to suspend reason - which dictates that they are most likely normal people with concerns about who is running their country and who they think has the best implementable and beneficial policies (or vice versa) for the sake of indulging the stereotyping of an internet poster who may also be an idiot and has little knowledge about the candidates as well?

Side: Accurate
2 points

Matt Damon doesn't know much about Gov. Sarah Palin. He really is not well informed on government or political issues. Please let me shed some light on the subject. Sarah Palin defeated an incumbent Governor during the republican primary and went on to a victory over a former two term Governor in the general election. Governor Palin led the way to bringing many lobbyist and state legislators to court for corruption. The convicted are now spending time in prison. Governor Palin faced off against the world powerful oil corporations. Sarah pointed out that the convicted legislators, lobbyists and the chief of staff to the former governor were bribed to bring about legislation that reduced Alaska's share of the oil revenue. Sarah put forth legislation that passed the legislature and was signed into law that gave Alaska a fair share of the oil royalty. Governor Palin then set her sights on diplomatically engineering one of the largest capitol projects in the history of our country. She brought the Oil companies together to begin the construction of the Alaskan gas pipeline. With a combined $1 billion budgeted by the oil consortium to begin the engineering process to build the gas pipeline that is projected to bring 4 Billion standard cubic feet of gas per day to the markets across North America. Governor Palin has already advanced the change that is bringing us closer to independence from the foreign oil import strangulation of our country. Governor Palin is a small town girl that has come a long way. President Truman was a small town man who went all the way to the Whitehouse. Governor Palin is not a polished professional politician bent of a lifetime of serving herself. Sarah Palin is one of the "People" who has hope written all over her heart. Hope that brings us one more step closer to the intentions that our forefathers dreamed when they forged the birth of our nation. Governor Palin has more executive experience than the entire Democratic Party's ticket combined. So you see, Matt, Governor Palin is just as qualified to be Vice President as much as Sen. Obama is to be the President. Remember Matt, when you were a broke screenwriter and someone gave you a chance. Look at you now. Wait until history unveils the charted course of Sarah Palin. The small town Mom who made it to the Whitehouse. It's about time that one of the "People" actually made it to 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue.

Side: Sarah Palin is Qualified
4 points

Let me start by saying that you are correct in saying that Palin has a fairly impressive record for a two year governor. Let me repeat, For a two year governor. On the surface she does seem to have a good record, that's why the McCain campaign chose her: she looks good (no pun intended). We've all already heard the story that McCain had only met Palin once before choosing her to be his Vice President. Once she was put under the national spotlight however, new and interesting facts began to emerge about Palin.

- She has asked for millions in federal earmarks as a governor while simoultaniously saying that as a governor she intends to reduce that same wasteful spending as VP.

- That same corruption she was fighting proliferated her own administration. She fired a number of city officials who had appeared in her opponents commercials when running for mayor including: the public works director, the city planner, the police chief, and (my personal favorite) the director of the Wasilla museum, in addition to others. She also ordered other city officials not to talk to the media without her permission. (This information is from this nytimes article: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/03/us/politics/03wasilla.html?_r=1&hp;&oref;=slogin) )

- Sarah Palin said: "Iraq war is God's will." Now don't get me wrong, I might be an atheist but I don't think there is anything wrong with religion, but as soon as religion starts to affect policy decisions and you start hearing "God is on our side" rhetoric, then we are one stone's throw away from having a war on terror turn into a religious war. We cannot forget that religious extremists were the ones who attacked us. More religious extremism is certainly not the answer.

- Despite all of these faults, what bothers me the most about Palin has to be the lying. One of Palin's favorite lines is "I told congress thanks but no thanks for that bridge to nowhere." This is a downright LIE. It was much more like "Thanks [months pass, bridge to nowhere becomes symbol of wasteful government spending], oh wait never mind we don't want it [but we'll keep the money anyway because you know, why not]." I don't see how anyone can vote for a person who is that completely dishonest.

Okay now let's talk about your claim that Sarah Palin's "executive" experience qualifies her to be VP more than Obama's time in the Senate. Palin was a governor who was very concentrated on state issues at the exlusion of most national and international matters. There is nothing wrong with this if your just a governor, but when you become a national figure you will not have the same kind of experience as someone who is used to dealing with national matters, let's say for example: a senator (you know kinda like McCain and...oh yea! Obama). Now you could say that she does have some experience in that Alaska supplies a significant portion of the U.S.'s oil but that's relatively minor.

Sarah Palin has no foreign policy experience. I try to avoid absolute statements in general but here I can't help it.

Now it has been over a month since Damon's statement and still Palin has only had three interviews. Biden for comparison has had over 100 interviews since being named Obama's VP. Plus, as a candidate during the primaries, he has already had lot's of national exposure. So when Matt Damon said he didn't know much about Palin, this is what he meant.

Finally we have your comments about "real people" running for president. Maybe I'm alone here but I want my president to be embarrassingly superior to me. I consider myself a smart person, but I know I could never be a president. That's a big fucking responsibility (excuse my French). And I'm not quite sure why you think Obama does not fit into your definition of "People."

Edit: I just realized that the last statement might look like I'm accusing you of racism, but please know that I am not.

Supporting Evidence: Read this if you think Palin is experienced (www.newsweek.com)
Side: Accurate
1 point

After "Denali's" excellent comments I am thrilled to see how people do, GET IT! SARAH PALIN will be a super VP !! Matt sounds like he needs further education about his subjects before he opens his mouth. He makes his ignorance about Gov. Palin an excuse for not supporting her! READ Matt! There is actually plenty of information out there about her. She is batting a thousand...and I hope this will be a grand slam!! She is a hard worker with a sharp mind that she uses to make this world a better place, for her family, her hometown, state, and country. We should be honored to have someone with such clear integrity, and executive experience. Getting it RIGHT is more important to SARAH PALIN then getting RICH (remember she sold the governors plane when she stepped into the governors position in Alaska?) She is one of the genuine people who refuses to compromise her faith in God and this country. Where ever Sarah Palin serves, based on her consistent principles, informed decisions, and her amazing leadership qualities, she will make an outstanding and excellent contribution... Sarah Palin certainly has my vote! A win for McCain and Palin is a win for AMERICA. Lets join them and get on the highway to a brighter America. Insuring low taxes as has been proven actually helps the economy ( as in Reganomics). Remember, federal income taxes only started in approximately 1913! Tariffs and customs ( as in duty, verses duty free ) supplied the government with money (did you know income tax was supposed to be temporary?) America is a generous nation, we historically share more wealth with other countries through services, grants, special needs, and disaster relief as well as through low cost loans, then any other country in history! In other words, when AMERICA does well, the world does better too... America isn't perfect but it's still as good as it gets compared to other countries. However, America needs it's own "oxygen" ( energy, gas oil, wind solar, and new sources... ) to help all of us NOW ! We also need to stop funding oil money to the middle east and other countries. We need this money to work for us, not against us. .....John McCain and Sarah Palin will make this happen FAST. There will be new LIFE in congress...and better health on all levels and in all places....McCain and Palin 2008!!

Side: Misguided
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Although I will cede that Damon probably does not do his fair share of research, from stumbling the net, it does appear to me that Palin is underrepresented, but then again, it might just be because of liberal media bias.

What I do know is that bashing a debate with campaign slogans probably isnt the best way to spread the word, nor are the ideologies of the past neccessarily correct. Moreover, I don't believe it is actually feasible to simply stop importing oil for a large consumer such as the US, implimenting alternative energy strategies takes time, and resistance is strong. I doubt 4 years will be enough time for america to see much return from alternative energies. If such slogans are to be believed, it will have to be taken on faith. That is no definite solution.

Side: Accurate

I favored and up voted you.

Side: Misguided
1 point

The mere fact that he started his ridiculous rant with " ... I don't know anything about her and I don't think in 8 weeks I'm gonna know anything about her" makes his whole argument weak and obsolete.

Thanks Matty, for that enlightening insight. Glad you will be making an "informed" decision in this year's election. Why don't you do us all a favor and put down those scripts and start picking up some research? Maybe then you won't sound like a complete clown.

Side: Misguided
xosweteangel(2) Disputed
2 points

I think the point is that the RNC has been playing hide-and-seek with their veep selection since she first became public. When Matt says he doesn't know anything about her, I think he means that

1) she stuck to the same talking points, repeating the same sound bits, and generally running around the meat of the questions in Gibson's interview. Even Gibson, notorious for being bipartisanly sweet to politicians, had to repeat questions up to three times because of lack of any substance, before finally giving up and moving on.

2) before those three extremely well-rehearsed interviews, she gave the media basically the exact same speech in every public appearance as she did at the Rep convention.

3) the only things found out about her were forwarded by tabloids and gossip-hungry journalists, greatly decreasing the credibility of the information provided. This was necessary because of the Rep's tight-lipped presentation of Palin.

So for what most Americans know is where she came from, and what's she's NOT. By that I mean, Americans are getting to know her mostly when liberal reporters lambaste her backtracking on any of a number of statements. She has never appeared in an unscripted, completely free interview minus the strictly adhered to talking points; she has never fielded a press conference (without using her RNC speech); she has never presented her OWN point of view in her OWN words. She's basically been running the script McCain's camp has presented her.

Basically, all the cloudy obfuscating on the part of the republican party makes Damon's point relevant: who IS Sarah Palin?

Side: Accurate
1 point

Why do actors think that we care about their opinions regarding political matters? Why do they think that we want to listen to them and that they actually have an effect on the way that we will vote. If you want to know more about her, do some research. I'll do the same before I make my decision.

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tclass(14) Disputed
7 points

It's wonderful when people see a video out of context and think that Matt Damon got on his soapbox and went off on a political diatribe about Sarah Palin for no reason. He was asked a topical question in an interview and he responded.

Side: Accurate
-1 points

One up vote for you.

Side: Misguided
-5 points
1 point

well, i did find the whole Bad Disney movie analogy funny (after all, disney movies are known for how horrible they do with critics jerk off signal).

otherwise, he even said that he doesn't know shit about her... i do know that when obama came around no one knew about him, but now we do after a lot of media attention. actually, smart people do know a lot about Palin... but Matt Damon isn't that smart... that's probably it... does he even watch the News? probably not.

anyway, she has more EXECUTIVE experience than Obama... and she's just going for VP.

Side: Misguided
1 point

The Matt Damons of the era thought Harry Truman was a joke. A failed haberdasher of all things. They voted for the top of the ticket despite advanced age and failing health. And ya know what? Truman surprised them all. A hick from Mizzou . . . his administration's foreign policy accomplishments were amazing. The Marshall plan. The tough decision to drop the bomb twice. Managing the conversion from wartime economy to peacetime boom. The Berlin Airlift. Who knows what we will get in Palin if it becomes necessary.

Side: Misguided
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Matt Damon can say whatever he wants to. You can see the same sort of underlying bravado in his comments about Palin as many of us saw in Good Will Hunting. I believe on some level Matt believes he's as intelligent as Will Hunting.

The bottom line is that Sarah Palin did not ban books from a Wasilla library. Matt supported Barack Obama for President before he announced his candidacy so in my opinion doesn't it render his argument about voting for someone due to lack of experience moot? In my opinion Matt's arguments are weak and full of contradictions.

Side: Misguided

Right on! One up vote!

Side: Misguided

When was it necessary for a president to know when dinosaurs lived? I mean, is that a pre-requisite before being president?

Side: Misguided
0 points

Who the hell is Matt Damon? Oh, some guy that is an actor... right!? And he complains about Sarah Palin not being well-known or something, right???

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Matt Damon, you got your opinion. That don't make you right.

Amazing, these actors are fearful of Sarah Palin and John McCain but couldn't care less about a terrorist group trying to establish a global Islamic theocracy.

Side: Misguided
0 points

well i got one thing to say hes an actor not a critic. the critics judge he acts thats that.

Side: Misguided
-1 points

This just goes to show how Out of touch hollywood is with the rest of america. They actually think by getting on TV and talking about their beliefs is going to change the mind of True american citizens. Matt damon (love his movies) is an idiot. No offense matt, but you sound like a Puppet for the Obama campaign, how can you actually talk about her experience when the Head of the Democratic side has less experience in a decision making position. Mayor/governor has more responsibilities than a senator that has been in his chair for only 140 days before announcing his running for president. You truly show your biased view hoping to gain some illegitimate respect for obama sympathizers.

The day american people continue to listen to Nose Candy lovers in Hollywood is the day this country really goes down the Gutter.

Side: Misguided
1 point

Agreed - here's interesting article related to this debate:

http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/09/election_2008_hollywood_redux.html

Side: Misguided

Agreed. One up vote.

Side: Misguided
0 points
Side: Misguided
-1 points

Hey, check it out.... the tide is turning. ;)

I hope I didn't just jinx this side ;) --->

<--- Down with that side!

Side: Misguided
-2 points
-5 points

Wow! -4 points! There must be a lot of actors in CD ;)

Side: Misguided
1 point

Yeah, definitely have touched a nerve with the Matt Damon lovers of America! ;)

Side: Misguided
0 points

Ok, so what your saying is that someone who is rich could not possibly be liberal because it's what they truly believe? I am sorry if I'm being harsh but that is one of the narrow views of the world I have ever seen. I know plenty of people who have different political views from me but I would never, marginalize their views just because they disagreed with my own. I assume you are a republican (correct me if I'm wrong) and therefor you probably have very different perspectives on a range of issues then me. Although I disagree with you I'm not going to say things like "he only wants less taxes on the rich because he's rich!" or "he's only a republican because everyone around him is a republican and he can't think for himself." The main reason there is a divide in this country is because people think those who don't think like them are idiots. I am not just talking about republicans calling democrats "liberal elitists" but also some democrats calling republicans "self righteous bible-thumpers." So please next time you make an argument don't patronize those who disagree with you

Side: Accurate