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Debate Score:72
Arguments:21
Total Votes:112
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McCain now, Obama later

McCain not too old, Obama too young

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Side Score: 19
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Side Score: 53
1 point

dude, ok, McCain's not THAT old.

personally, I'd rather have someone that's been around for a while, than just some green not to experienced guy.

it's not like McCain's gonna drop over and die any second!!

now, yeah, he's old, and i believe that he will be a good 4 year president, but even i admit that 8 years would be too much for him.

Side: yes
0 points

While some consider John McCain too old to be president, I prefer someone with more life experience. And I specifically think Obama is too young/inexperienced to be president at this time. (And has anyone else noticed that McCain's mother is still alive, while neither of Obama's parents are?)

The best way for Obama to give us, "Change we can believe in" would be to truly act in a bipartisan manner even if he is not elected president at this time. With McCain reforming the Republican party, and Obama reforming the Democrats (Lord knows both sides need it!), there may be some hope for this country! If Obama could show that he is capable of putting the best interests of the country above politics as a Senator for at least another eight years, this Republican would consider voting for him at a future date.

Side: yes
jessald(1915) Disputed
3 points

In response to your experience argument: No President operates alone. Both will have tons of advisors. Obama has said he will work closely with Biden and Biden has 10 years more experience than McCain. Obama/Biden is a better team than McCain/Palin.

Also, like others, I don't believe McCain will truly bring change. He follows the same principles that Bush does. The only concrete thing I've heard him say he will reform is earmarks, and those only represent a tiny amount of government spending.

Side: No
Probama123(44) Disputed
1 point

So now your going to blame obama for his parents deaths? or say that, his parents death is a bad thing for him? what is wrong with you? Also McCain may have more experience, unfortunately all of his policies are screwed up, so he would just be doing the wrong thing efficiently.

Side: No
0 points

I sort of agree. Again I don't know who I like, but I feel Obama's too young and inexperienced...

Side: yes
Jamais(268) Disputed
0 points

You mean to tell me that you created an account just to say over and over that Palin did better?? Undecided?? Hmmm...

Side: No
-1 points

Vote for Obama for president 2016. A change we can all live with ;)

Side: yes
3 points

Come on Joe. We all know your just saying that. When 2016 comes around you'll be just as against Obama as you are now.

Side: No
pvtNobody(645) Disputed
4 points

I disagree he'll just be saying Obama for 2020.

Side: yes
-2 points
7 points

There is no clear case that McCain will reform the Republican party. He has voted consistently in line with President Bush, which shows he acts along the party lines.

His recent activity shows that he's not up for the position:

1. Forgetting where spain is, trying to bluff

2. Strange twitches and confusion during press conferences

3. Refusal to release medical records unless behind closed doors

Side: No

While I enjoyed your logic and honesty, CathyM, I cannot agree. Normally experience would be a deciding factor for me as well but I cannot get behind the McCain-Palin ticket...and I mean NOT AT ALL and Palin has much to do with that. I vote for the person, the status of the country and consider all things available to me in order to decide if this person fits the situation. We're in some very deep trouble here that requires as much change as we can accomplish in the next four years...and hopefully eight if Obama shows himself to be the true agent of CHANGE! I agree that much is unknown about Barack Obama but what I do know about John McCain tells me he must not be our next President. Even the first debate re-cemented that thought. Foreign policy involves much more than Iraq, Afghanistan and Pakistan or Iran. There are problems in the world involving China, Korea, South America and so forth not spoken of by John McCain and he should have touched on those instead of only HIS Veterans and the war zones.

I say Obama now and perhaps Obama later, depending on the first term. For now, I know he's our best hope for the White House in 2009.

Side: No
7 points

i AGREE strongly. and plus, has anyone besides me noticed that what McCain says now contradicts what he had said starting from the beginning of the millenium ? like Palin, he seems indecisive too.

McCain vs. McCain
Side: No

THANK YOU!!!! jamoke

Side: No
-4 points
2 points

We need Obama now. I do not want anymore experience. We've had that and look at the mess we're in. There is no disgrace in honest failure but there sure is if we do it again.

We have taken a huge detour from our true place in this world. Anti-Americanism is now a world wide epidemic and we all know how deserved that distinction is.Now we must confront our future.

Without pointing out in detail that John McCain is dishonest,or that he does not hold leadership within his party,that he reacts over the top to every situation or simply "suspends" everything, there is the clear fact that John McCain is establishment. He votes along side Bush. Period.

I am looking for ideals and ideas. I'm interested in character and leadership by influence. Someone who is even keeled and not reactionary. I'm ready for for authentic,balanced,full contact, moral,for the common good,hopeful,new kind of politics. Obama will surround himself with experience, but what I am interested in is the light that shines from this man the presence that has drawn so many to this unlikely candidate. To me he seems the only one possible to restore the image of our people - tolerant, kind, fair, willing to use force as a last resort - never a first,that we actually consult with our allies and speak with our adversaries.

I believe that even if Obama can't fulfill his entire plan for change, that he will lead us toward a new consensus on not settling for fake discussion and worn out campaign slogans that things might get real enough to engage those who have given up on ever feeling hopeful about their government again.

Side: No
2 points

Yeah, that sounds reasonable... I mean we should just all take turns being President!

No.

There are pretty clear differences, I mean you can't really be for both of their policies at the same time, maybe you can like both as people at the same time, I certainly do.

I'll tell you what, Obama now, McCain later. Deal? (/crosses fingers because he'll never vote for McCain.)

Side: No
-1 points

McCain Now!

Obama, Never!

I dont see McCain lasting eight years as President. However, I think he will accomplish something in one term. Obama is not the man for the job. He simply is dangerous!

Why? For one, he wants to slow our advancement in weapondery. He wants to meet straight up with NuttJob over in Iran. Guess he wants their military to catch up with ours so we can have a fair fight.

Side: No
jessald(1915) Disputed
2 points

"he wants to slow our advancement in weapondery"

The U.S. spends way, way, waaaay more money on the military than any other country in the world. We can afford to cut back. (source)

"He wants to meet straight up with NuttJob over in Iran."

Do prefer McCain's strategy of ignore them and hope they go away? Or do you think we should start another 10 year war?

Side: No