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Debate Score:77
Arguments:40
Total Votes:124
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Most Christians only believe because they have been brainwashed from a young age

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Side Score: 49
2 points

I'm not doubting they truly truly believe and that they will vehemently object to your characterization of why they believe. But if you can step out of yourself for a second and take a look you'd see we are absolutely awash all our lives with whatever preconceptions you got as a kid. Everything from you're the fat one, or smart, or funny, or clumsy, or immersed in one ethnic identity, or ethnic but it's not the biggest deal about who you are, whatever. People decades later need therapy to uncover truths and falsehoods about who they are to feel better about themselves. So basically, we may know that people are that impressioned by their youth, but yet you're denying going to a weekly religious service and being taught to recite beliefs really isn't the reason you hold those beliefs. Does that really make sense?

Hey, if it truly is all voluntary then why don't a full half the people in this world end up choosing some other religion than the one they came up believing in their family? There are so so many. If they read everything about every one of them and then chose then the odds they would stay with just the one they knew from childhood would be less than 50%. But no, in reality, the vast vast majority of religious folk simply are practicing what they were taught as kids.

Side: True
2 points

Your atheism isn't going to keep your kids from believing in God

It makes for decent enough drama, but is this actually common? Do kids raised without religion actively seek it out and convert all that often? As it turns out, yes. The most recent data on this that I've come across comes from Pew's 2008 Religious Landscape Survey, which finds that only 46 percent of people who are raised religiously unaffiliated (which includes atheists, agnostics, and those who say they're "nothing in particular") remain unaffiliated as adults.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.vox.com/platform/amp/2014/4/28/5659984/only-30-percent-of-kids-raised-as-atheists-stay-that-way-as-adults

Side: False
Grenache(6103) Clarified
1 point

1) The path of atheists does not answer my point that the religious stick to what they know. They're utterly separate.

2) 46% remaining unaffiliated meanst on 54% become affiliated. About half. So basically based on half of nonreligious you're claiming brainwashing doesn't occur.

3) Becoming "affiliated" is not the same as immersed in belief. People become affiliated simply by marrying into families who are, or wanting their kids in that community.

Side: True
FromWithin(7252) Disputed
1 point

You left out the part of how people like you are brainwashed to support even No Restriction abortions.

Some of us have the humanity to see though the brainwashing, and stand up for life.

I pray that someday you wake up and do the same.

Side: False
1 point

"I beseech you therefore, brethren, by the mercies of God, that ye present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable unto God, which is your reasonable service. And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God. For I say, through the grace given unto me, to every man that is among you, not to think of himself more highly than he ought to think; but to think soberly, according as God hath dealt to every man the measure of faith. For as we have many members in one body, and all members have not the same office: so we, being many, are one body in Christ, and every one members one of another. Having then gifts differing according to the grace that is given to us, whether prophecy, let us prophesy according to the proportion of faith; or ministry, let us wait on our ministering: or he that teacheth, on teaching; or he that exhorteth, on exhortation: he that giveth, let him do it with simplicity; he that ruleth, with diligence; he that sheweth mercy, with cheerfulness.

Let love be without dissimulation. Abhor that which is evil; cleave to that which is good. Be kindly affectioned one to another with brotherly love; in honour preferring one another; not slothful in business; fervent in spirit; serving the Lord; rejoicing in hope; patient in tribulation; continuing instant in prayer; distributing to the necessity of saints; given to hospitality. Bless them which persecute you: bless, and curse not. Rejoice with them that do rejoice, and weep with them that weep. Be of the same mind one toward another. Mind not high things, but condescend to men of low estate. Be not wise in your own conceits. Recompense to no man evil for evil. Provide things honest in the sight of all men. If it be possible, as much as lieth in you, live peaceably with all men. Dearly beloved, avenge not yourselves, but rather give place unto wrath: for it is written, Vengeance is mine; I will repay, saith the Lord. Therefore if thine enemy hunger, feed him; if he thirst, give him drink: for in so doing thou shalt heap coals of fire on his head. Be not overcome of evil, but overcome evil with good."

Sometimes you gotta give the brain a good washing to get all that gunk out of the mind.

Side: True
-1 points

It's all about geography, were the subject was born. If you're born in the United States you're likely to become a Christian. If you're born in Pakistan you're likely to become.......whatever the hell they are. If you're born in China, you're likely to become Chinese. I'm being glib but I think you get the point.

You Christians, if you were born in India you'ld likely be worshiping a cow right now.

Side: True
1 point

So you openly admit that the West is Christian. Excellent....

Side: False
1 point

I’ve known people who became believers in Christ later on in their life and they weren’t Christian at a young age. Debate over.

Side: False
NumberOne(445) Disputed
3 points

I’ve known people who became believers in Christ later on in their life and they weren’t Christian at a young age. Debate over.

Your assertion is true, but it is also true that this constitutes the least common form of believer. FactMachine's point is accurate as a general rule, but he has worded it as an exclusive rule.

Edit: My apologies (to FactMachine), but I double-checked and he has not in fact worded it as an exclusive rule at all. He said "most Christians" and therefore your assertion does not refute his point.

Side: True
2 points

Most atheists were raised by an irreligious parent. So was your point to sit and spin in one place and never make a point?

Side: False
2 points

Your atheism isn't going to keep your kids from believing in God

It makes for decent enough drama, but is this actually common? Do kids raised without religion actively seek it out and convert all that often? As it turns out, yes. The most recent data on this that I've come across comes from Pew's 2008 Religious Landscape Survey, which finds that only 46 percent of people who are raised religiously unaffiliated (which includes atheists, agnostics, and those who say they're "nothing in particular") remain unaffiliated as adults.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.vox.com/platform/amp/2014/4/28/5659984/only-30-percent-of-kids-raised-as-atheists-stay-that-way-as-adults

Side: False
1 point

Yes.

Side: True
Dermot(5462) Disputed
0 points

I’ve known people who became nonbelievers in Christ later on in their life and they weren’t Atheist at a young age. Debate over.

Side: True
2 points

Your atheism isn't going to keep your kids from believing in God

It makes for decent enough drama, but is this actually common? Do kids raised without religion actively seek it out and convert all that often? As it turns out, yes. The most recent data on this that I've come across comes from Pew's 2008 Religious Landscape Survey, which finds that only 46 percent of people who are raised religiously unaffiliated (which includes atheists, agnostics, and those who say they're "nothing in particular") remain unaffiliated as adults.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.vox.com/platform/amp/2014/4/28/5659984/only-30-percent-of-kids-raised-as-atheists-stay-that-way-as-adults

Side: False
NumberOne(445) Disputed
1 point

I’ve known people who became nonbelievers in Christ later on in their life and they weren’t Atheist at a young age. Debate over.

This isn't even relevant.

Side: False
Rusticus(1608) Disputed
-2 points
Srom(12206) Disputed
1 point

What? I'm stating facts because it's true that not every person is going to be in a Christian household and grow up in it. Some find Jesus later on in life then at a young age. There is people who believe at different stages of life.

Side: True
1 point

If you were taught to hate women at a young age, you'll probably hate women' If you were taught to be a racist at a young age, you'll probably be a racist. If you were taught to hate carrots at a young age, you'll probably hate carrots. "As the twig is bent, so the tree will grow"

case closed.

Side: False
2 points

If you were taught to hate women at a young age, you'll probably hate women' If you were taught to be a racist at a young age, you'll probably be a racist. If you were taught to hate carrots at a young age, you'll probably hate carrots. "As the twig is bent, so the tree will grow"

case closed.

So you are openly admitting that your twig was bent at a young age to be an Atheist.

Side: True
AlofRI(2687) Clarified
1 point

NOBODY bent MY twig. Nobody in my family would admit to being atheist. I had members of several religions in the family, so, NO, Bront, Nobody bends my twig! You keep waving yours around proudly and trying to make me give it some attention. Ain't gonna happen, so, put it away or enjoy it alone. I don't want anything to do with the silly thing! ;-)

Side: True
FromWithin(7252) Disputed
1 point

If you were taught by the Democrat Party at a young age that it is ok to kill unborn babies with no restrictions, then you will probably grow up to be dead inside, lacking the simple humanity to discern barbaric acts.

Side: True
1 point

Your atheism isn't going to keep your kids from believing in God

It makes for decent enough drama, but is this actually common? Do kids raised without religion actively seek it out and convert all that often? As it turns out, yes. The most recent data on this that I've come across comes from Pew's 2008 Religious Landscape Survey, which finds that only 46 percent of people who are raised religiously unaffiliated (which includes atheists, agnostics, and those who say they're "nothing in particular") remain unaffiliated as adults.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.vox.com/platform/amp/2014/4/28/5659984/only-30-percent-of-kids-raised-as-atheists-stay-that-way-as-adults

Side: True

This coming from inhuman animals who have been brainwashed to support No Restriction abortions.

DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA YOUR HYPOCRISY?

Side: False

I must be a unicorn. I wasn't raised in church, and learned about religion in college. Of course I'm not a unicorn now am I? You're just full of shit and scrambling for an argument. And a sucky argument I might add. We all know most atheists were raised by a secular parent.

Side: False