Most world religions are sexist.
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Especially in Arabic Islam, where women can only show their faces to their husbands. However it is also showed in Judaism, where women are not typically permitted to be on the Bima in the orthodox sect nor are they permitted to have Bat-Mitzvahs whereas males ARE allowed on the Bima and ARE allowed to have Bar-Mitzvahs. However in Conservative and Reformed sects it is much different, so one could argue that it is becoming more equal in America, however in the Middle East and India, the religious hierarchies are VERY patriarchal.
Yes. Most religions are also very old. Unfortunately, sexism has been almost universally present throughout history and geography. And the religions swept this into their practices because it was so prevalent. The problem is, religions are reluctant to change, so old practices are difficult to get rid of.
the people that dont agree with this are all stupid.
we are talking about religion, we are obviously going to talk about the age and what they do, if sexism didnt come from religion and all that, then when did it come, think about the FACT that before jesus was born before the romans and all that, the sun was (and dont know if it still is) a woman, therefore men used to worship women because the sun is vital to us.... that hate towards women started in arabic places such as saudi arabia and all that... and then the romans needed to get rid of virgin maria because everyone after the death of jesus started to follow and listen to her, therefore they gave maria the reputation of being a bitch and a prostitute, and people back in thous days believed in everything and even more when it came from powerfull people....peace out!
Byn just looking through any religious text- koran/bible etc., it is easy to point out sexism.
1 Corinthians 14:34 - 35
34. Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but [they are commanded] to be under obedience, as also saith the law.
35 And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church.
18. Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as it is fit in the Lord.
“I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man; she must be silent.” (1 Timothy 2:12)
“Do not allow a sorceress to live.” (Exodus 22:18)
“So the man took his concubine and sent her outside to them, and they raped her and abused her throughout the night, and at dawn they let her go. At daybreak the woman went back to the house where her master was staying, fell down at the door and lay there until daylight. When her master got up in the morning and opened the door of the house and stepped out to continue on his way, there lay his concubine, fallen in the doorway of the house, with her hands on the threshold. He said to her, ‘Get up; let’s go.’ But there was no answer. Then the man put her on his donkey and set out for home.” (Judges 19:25-28)
Tell me that's not sexist!
The only reasons I disagree are that women have made great strides in the religious community through the years. There are many ministers, pastors, priests that now enjoy the full mantle of the churches offerings. On the other hand women have not made as many strides in the orthodox religions with the exceptions of very minor roles in some. Most religious literature written in the days BC and AD portrayed women only as secondary to the male. While that will always remain the same, we do enjoy continued freedom in many areas as women and as gay people make their impact felt in those spheres.
Religion is not sexist. It simply preaches that a man and woman have different roles in life. People always quote for example that a muslim wife must obey her husband. When in reality, it says that a husband is the leader of the home. It is his job to go out and provide for his family. It is her job to watch over the children and the home. In return, he is OBLIGATED to fulfill her every need/want within his means. People just sort of leave that part out.
In short, it is not the religion that is sexist. It is the people of these religions that misquote and distort these religions for their own gain.
You have to remember the times these religions were created. they're created during a time where women's roles were already defined. The religions just kept on it with the times, they didn't make any assertions that weren't already mainstream.
Such as the Old Testament referring to how a woman is tempted by the apple, while the MAN is tempted by the woman. It was making the obvious psychological analysis that a woman can easily control a man with her body. that analysis was acceptable back then because it was obvious. nowadays though, gender psychology is unacceptable (unless it's trying to figure out how to change men).
there's also on how Women are easily tempted into sin, which is why they should be looked out after. Even in today's society, man watches over the women of his life (mother, daughter, and lover) because that is just the evolutionary and psychological trait that we have. to be protective. we are more afraid over how the woman might get hurt, so try to keep them safe.
most religions when it comes to genders is based off of evolution and psychology (the irony). not based off of the view "men are just better than women, and they are our slaves".
Are you suggesting that women are more easily tempted into sin and that one of the roles of man is protector of women? I whole-heartedly disagree in the validity of either statement. Both represent an ignorant male perspective, negligent of a women's point of view.
I raise this question of sexual inequality to expose the weakness in modern organized religions and dogmas that are being devoutly followed by both genders and have been, from the time of their creation to present, controlled by men.
men took that control by strength of mind and physique. i don't care if women take control of something, i really don't. but don't deny evolution and psychology just because it seems sexist. it is what it is.
do you really think it's easy for a man to watch over a woman? if so, you're ignorant of the man's point of view. God giving man the duty of keeping women safe is more of a burden than a gift.
i like feminism, i like how all of a sudden i don't need responsibilities over women. all that shit that my mom tried to teach me i just threw out the window now that chivalry is no longer needed. feminism has taken the burden of protecting the female gender off of our backs.
You refer to a woman's sexuality as being the epitome of her existence? That's sort of what it sounds like. Perhaps one could attempt to justify that when women were still confined to the home or before the sexual revolution, but since then, many of us have made great strides in overcoming our visual worth. Check out that link for some more ideas from Peggy Phalen on dissembling the woman's unconscious image. I do appreciate that now you admit that view to be unacceptable, but just in case you were curious...
I believe in the beginning of your argument that you're attempting to defend sexism in dogma from an archaic POV and if so, I can sort of try to understand your reasoning. But then you go on to employ the "Strict Father" model as a way to justify your saying man watches over the women of his life (mother, daughter, and lover) because that is just the evolutionary and psychological trait that we have. to be protective. we are more afraid over how the woman might get hurt, so try to keep them safe. Which, and you'll forgive me, as a modern woman, for rejecting that idea, is an incredibly misogynistic statement blatantly placing women a step below men.
It isn't a matter of one gender being "better" than another, but rather of one being given more liberties, more opportunities and simply being treated differently than the other. I agree that the sexual inferences and prejudices were probably in step with the times, but I completely disagree with your saying that men are meant to watch over women and keep them safe. Really, what's that about?
Modern day sexism in religion. What about the present problems? (www.associatedcontent.com)
When you say you that men need to protect the women in their lives, who or what are they protecting them from?? Other men? It is the inability of some (and only some) men to view women as anything other than a sexual object that has resulted in men believing that it is their duty to protect "helpless and vulnerable" women.
right in that first paragraph;
"You have to remember the times these religions were created. they're created during a time where WOMAN'S ROLES WERE ALREADY DEFINED. The religions just kept on it with the times, they didn't make any assertions that weren't already mainstream."
wrong ! woman don't have a strict "role" to preform. do we have to cook,clean and bare you children ? no. no one should be able to physically force us to do any of this. woman should be aloud to wear what they want, say what they want, do what they want, be who they want, go where they want, live how they want. men get to so why shouldn't woman ? think its sexist now ? how would they world survive if due to all the strict guide lines "MEN" have put in place forced woman to leave, to die. you need us so treat us like we need to be treated. i don't care if its through religion. its not like things haven't changed before.
this is disgusting. Not all women are like this so why should we punish every single one of them ? plus this could also mean that the men were just thinking about the wrong things, so if they got self control they could train them selves to contain them selves;
"Such as the Old Testament referring to how a woman is tempted by the apple, while the MAN is tempted by the woman. It was making the obvious psychological analysis that a woman can easily control a man with her body. that analysis was acceptable back then because it was obvious. nowadays though, gender psychology is unacceptable (unless it's trying to figure out how to change men)."
this is sad, your stereotyping all girls against one mistake, made by the MAN.
this one annoys me;
"there's also on how Women are easily tempted into sin, which is why they should be looked out after. Even in today's society, man watches over the women of his life (mother, daughter, and lover) because that is just the evolutionary and psychological trait that we have. to be protective. we are more afraid over how the woman might get hurt, so try to keep them safe."
are all woman easily tempted into sin ? oh i forgot MEN are just as easily taken by temptation i didn't realize that temptation only exists for women. yes men are most the time more masculine but we can look after our selves, we really can.
women and men should be equal. slave to no one.
you are now going to disregard everything i have just typed, as i am a 14 year old.
i found this while researching for my speech on sexism.
because of my age quite a few people are going to think I'm immature or what ever
but this is what i think. this is my point.
So, basically the religions are behind the times, and really need editing?
It is unfair that some people use religion as an excuse for sexism- and more unjust that they think it's right & they can get away with it.
There really is no excuse for chauvinism- and the Adam+Eve is, let's face it, less credible than red-riding hood.
Sexism is a socially constructed concept, different than racism. It cannot be denied that men and women have different roles in biology. Sorry, you just can't. Nature built women to give birth, nurse, and carry babies. Even if you throw evolution in there, women evolved broader hips and breasts to nurse and carry babies. Science has proven that women hear a baby crying better than men.
Likewise, women and men have different emotional makeups in general. These are all biological realities. So, for a religion to believe that men and women are suited for different roles is not "sexist"'; they believe it to be practical and realistic.