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Name me an openly antisemitic Republican member of Congress

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Name me an openly antisemitic Republican member of Congress

Hello bront:

Here's six: Matt Gaetz, Louie Gohmert, Paul Gosar, Kevin McCarthy, Steve Scalise, and Steve King.

https://theintercept.com/2019/02/15/ilhan-omar-aipac-republicans-anti-semitism/

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So show me video of them saying anti semitic things.

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Nevermind Con. It took me two minutes to refute your claim. Going after someone who happens to be a Jew isn't antisemitism. Going after "The Jews" as a group because they are "the Jews" is antisemtism.

There's a difference between someone saying "Bernie Sanders is a dumbass" and someone saying "The Jews are vile trash". See the difference? Me too.

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Explain to us why numerous Holocaust survivors have accused the Israeli state of mimicking Nazi Germany.

That will be your answer, you evil scumbag.

You are -- as per usual -- purposefully trying to mislead people into falling for the absurd falsehood that fascism and anti-Semitism are the same thing. Clearly, they are not the same thing. Anti-Semitism is/was but a single, solitary component of certain fascist regimes. Mussolini's chief propagandist (and later his mistress) was Jewish for heaven's sake.

You are a lying fascist piglet and that is the absolute truth of the matter.

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Explain to us why

So a switch off of the topic because you cannot name an open antisemitic Republican. Just as I suspected.

Secondly, Israel isn't the American Republican Party.

As for holocaust survivors, many say the opposite of anything another survivor says, thus your weak attempt to dodge the topic is nonsensical.

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That will be your answer, you evil scumbag

So Israel literally doesn't put people in furnaces, doesn't invade other countries, and treats its minorities well, making your piss poor attempt a....

Piss poor attempt.

Meanwhile, you literally are in a movement that is antisemitic, defends Islam, demonizes Jews, and goes after the church, demonizes capitalism, etc, just like the group you claim to hate, and I'm in a group that literally takes the opposite of those positions.

A swastika wearer like you is a swastika wearer even by any other name.

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Fascism and anti-Semitism are the same thing.

So you openly admit you hate Jews and are in a political ideology that hates Jews. Sounds familiar.

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Anti-Semitism is/was but a single, solitary component of certain fascist regimes

So was the omnipotent state. Again, the Socialist position, and the opposite of my position.

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So was the omnipotent state. Again, the Socialist position

You have been proven wrong about this twice already so once again you are DELIBERATELY turning reality upside down -- a familiar fascist trick:-

Under socialism or communism—Marx and Engels drew no clear or consistent distinction between the two—government itself will eventually wither away as people gradually lose the selfish attitudes inculcated by private ownership of the means of production.

https://www.britannica.com/topic/socialism

Hence, you are telling people the precise opposite of the truth.

Because you are a fascist who is being paid by some equally corrupt corporate entity to tell lies on the internet. You are very literally a pathetic, disgusting little piece of shit and -- frankly -- it is little surprise that even your own children cannot stand to be around you. In layman's terms, you are about as low as it is possible for our species to get.

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Mussolini's chief propagandist (and later his mistress) was Jewish for heaven's sake

So are Trump's kids. You've literally called him a Nazi.

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You've literally called him a Nazi.

So have several Holocaust survivors, a leading Holocaust historian, Trump's own ex-wife and about a dozen members of his own party.

Donald Trump "kept book of Adolf Hitler's speeches in his bedside cabinet"

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/donald-trump-adolf-hitler-books-bedside-cabinet-ex-wife-ivana-trump-vanity-fair-1990-a7639041.html

A leading Holocaust historian just compared the US to Nazi Germany

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/ 2018/10/5/17940610/trump-hitler-history-historian

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You are a lying fascist piglet and that is the absolute truth of the matter.

Cool. So explain to us why you take so many Fascist positions.

Fascism

-a political philosophy, movement, or regime (such as that of the Fascisti) that exalts group identity above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition.

Sounds familiar, doesn't it?

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Mingiwuwu(1832) Clarified
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Cool. So explain to us why you take so many Fascist positions.

Certainly. I don't support any fascist positions because I am a Marxist. A Marxist is the political opposite of a fascist. Your question is loaded with an intentional (and absurd) false positive which is both:-

A) Intended to deflect your own genuine agreement with the classic fascist positions (i.e. nationalism, populism, authoritarianism, reactionism, militarism, nepotism, racism, corporatism, isolationism) and use of classic fascist propaganda (i.e. meme/pamphlet spam, big lies, false flag attacks, deflection, distortion, omission, Freudian projection etc...) as a means to promote fascist ideology.

B) So hilariously ironic given that you have also been accusing Jeremy Corbyn (another borderline Marxist) of being a fascist all night:-

Jeremy Corbyn has a long and honourable record of opposing fascism, racism and anti-semitism

https://morningstaronline.co.uk/article/ jeremy-corbyns-record-opposing-fascism-racism-and-anti-semitism

His activism has included roles in Anti-Fascist Action

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JeremyCorbyn

Corbyn is a left wing, borderline Marxist who was literally in an anti-fascist campaign group. And here you are accusing him of being a far right fascist extremist.

Your corporate fascist propaganda is stupid, and you are a subhuman, worthless little failure who has sold his conscience to the highest bidder.

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Cocopops(314) Disputed
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Please please and quadruple please, try hard, very hard to understand that your standard diversionary tactic of introducing straw man type arguments into genuine topics of real interest doesn't fool anyone.

No one was arguing whether or not the Holocaust survivors accused the Israeli state of mimicking Nazi Germany''.

Introduce this argument under separate cover and display the source of your claim.

Either address Bronto's question directly or stay under your rock.

You simply cannot resist ''THE CALL OF BRONTO''.

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Please please and quadruple please

Lmfao. The third time is triple, dopey. Struggle with maths, did you? Ahaha!

straw man type arguments

Interesting that you somehow have failed to grasp this debate is a straw man argument.

No one was arguing whether or not the Holocaust survivors accused the Israeli state of mimicking Nazi Germany''

Ah, I see now. You are too stupid to grasp the relevance of my comment. Would a diagram help you, perhaps?

Republicans have become a fascist party, and the reason they aren't openly anti-Semitic is because the very fascists who are running the Republican Party, and who fund and finance it (i.e. Sheldon Adelson etc...) are pro-Israeli Jewish fascists.

Would you still like that diagram? Or are you simply content to reinforce Bronto's deliberate attempt to mislead people into believing fascism and anti-Semitism are the same thing?

In fact, don't bother answering. Just shut the fuck up. You're a moron.

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