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Nazism was far left and far right combined Part 2

**--The link provided was used by the rabid leftist socialist Nomenclature--**

Large segments of the Nazi Party staunchly supported its official socialist, revolutionary and anti-capitalist positions and expected both a social and an economic revolution when the party gained power in 1933.**

**Many of the million members of the Sturmabteilung (SA) were committed to the party's official socialist program, including many Social Democrats and Communists who switched sides and became known as "Beefsteak Nazis": brown on the outside and red inside.**

**According to historian Thomas Weber, Hitler attended the funeral of communist Kurt Eisner (a German Jew), wearing a black mourning armband on one arm and a red communist armband on the other.**

**As a Nazi, Hitler expressed opposition to capitalism, regarding it as having Jewish origins and accused capitalism of holding nations ransom to the interests of a parasitic cosmopolitan rentier class.**

**Hitler publicly praised the Soviet Union's leader Joseph Stalin and Stalinism on numerous occasions.**

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The Nazi's were in favor of a large, strong government exercising control over the means of production. Anyone who believes they were far right is not worthy of debating. The right is for small government and individualism.

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Nomenclature(1174) Disputed Banned
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Anyone who believes they were far right is not worthy of debating.

"The majority of scholars identify Nazism in both theory and practice as a form of far-right politics.[13]"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazism#Position withinthepoliticalspectrum

(Fritzsche, Peter (1998). Germans into Nazis. Cambridge, Massachusetts: Harvard University Press. ISBN 978-0674350922.)

(Eatwell, Roger (1997). Fascism, A History. Viking-Penguin. pp. xvii–xxiv, 21, 26–31, 114–40, 352. ISBN 978-0140257007.)

(Griffin, Roger (2000). "Revolution from the Right: Fascism". In Parker, David. Revolutions and the Revolutionary Tradition in the West 1560-1991. London: Routledge. pp. 185–201. ISBN 978-0415172950.)

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The majority of scholars

1)You yourself once claimed scholars were usually liberals in an attempt to attack the intelligence of conservatives.

2)Technically "majority" could mean 50.00000000000001%. It's a meaningless claim.

3)The people following Hitler were Socialists according this exact link that I keep using because you provided it.

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Nomenclature(1174) Disputed Banned
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Anyone who believes they were far right is not worthy of debating.

Far-right politics is a term used to describe politics further on the right of the left-right spectrum than the standard political right, particularly in terms of more extreme nationalist,[1][2] and nativist ideologies, as well as authoritarian tendencies.

The term is often associated with Nazism,[4] neo-Nazism, fascism, neo-fascism and other ideologies or organizations that feature extreme nationalist, chauvinist, xenophobic, racist or reactionary views.[5] These can lead to oppression and violence against groups of people based on their supposed inferiority, or their perceived threat to the nation, state[6] or ultraconservative traditional social institutions

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Far-right_politics

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foratag(247) Disputed
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I could careless what scholars think, just like I could care less what climate change scientists say who are being paid by the government to espouse certain views. The number one criteria for being on the right is individualism and small government. Everything else is a distant second. The Nazi's did not believe in small government, so they simply could not be on the right.

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These can lead to oppression and violence against groups of people based on their supposed inferiority, or their perceived threat to the nation, state

Kind of like libs are doing to Conservatives as we speak.

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neo-Nazism, fascism, neo-fascism and other ideologies or organizations that feature extreme nationalist, chauvinist, xenophobic, racist or reactionary views.

Kind of like Islam, which the left refuses to touch.

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Far-right politics is a term used to describe politics further on the right of the left-right spectrum than the standard political right, particularly in terms of more extreme nationalist

And oddly the American left kept voting in KKK members for decades after WWII, demonstrably, until and up to at least 2010. (Example Robert Byrd, who Hillary Clinton referred to as her mentor) Isn't that a daisy...

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Hitler publicly praised the Soviet Union's leader Joseph Stalin and Stalinism on numerous occasions.

Hello bront:

Yet, they warred mightily on one another... Bwa, ha ha ha ha ha..

Look.. You can TRY to paint libs as Nazilike, but you FAIL... Nazis are right wing motherfuckers, just like Trump, and just like YOU.

excon

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Really? Then explain to us how white supremacists ran the Democratic Party pre WWII and Post WWII for decades. Were you a Republican back then? Of course not. Do you have something to tell us?

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You can TRY to paint libs as Nazilike, but you FAIL

Not actually. Hitler's followers were socialists, and the links I provided were used by a leftist on this site. If his followers were socialists, and he claimed to be a socialist, then what does that tell you? Please. Do tell.

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excon(4374) Disputed
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Hello bront:

It tells me that you would rather believe a motherfucking Jew killing Nazi, than your friend excon

excon

New

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The simplest and most effective method of finding where the Nazis are is this:-

You look for the people who are trying to turn the truth upside down.

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So you're a Nazi, and I've quoted your link ver batum, copy and paste.

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Horseshoe theory.

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