No banning: Didtatorship versus democracy.
Dictatorship.
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Democracy.
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Showing your hypocrisy again by copying debates. I never normally ban people but I banned you as I feel no remorse in giving you a taste of your own medicine and I was unwilling for the debate to be consumed with your stupid accusations of facts being opinions. You had nothing to add to the debate. Like I said on the original debate; Democracy weakens countries in many ways. Side: Dictatorship.
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You have a pretty shaky grasp on what does and does not constitute a fallacy. This is not limited to argumentum ad hominem, but many other ones you cite such as 'no true scotsman' and strawman arguments. If somebody insults you, but also responds to your arguments, they are not committing any kind of fallacy whatsoever- though they are being rather rude. Ad hominem arguments are specifically those made based on the real or perceived character of the opponent, rather than the content of the debate. Quite literally, something about the debater is used to dismiss their argument without addressing it. Examples of this would be one of the many troll personas on this site refusing to address an argument because the person making the argument is a 'liberal.' "Are you really going to listen to an argument made by a liberal/abortionist/theist/whatever" is a solid example of argumentum ad hominem. "You're an idiot" followed by actual responses to your points is not argumentum ad hominem. 'Tu quoque' that you use rather frequently is similar; pointing out that the other party does the same thing is not a tu quoque fallacy unless it is left at that, and their argument is dismissed based on that. Pointing out that the other party does the same thing, and then going on to address their argument anyway is not tu quoque. I'm not aware of many cases where you've legitimately been subjected to argumentum ad hominem. Many of your 'no true scotsman' assertions are either illegitimate or are grey areas. Many of what you call strawman arguments are not either. A big fallacy that you are guilty of yourself is the 'argument from fallacy;' that is where a persons argument is dismissed in its entirety because a portion of it contained some form of logical fallacy. A logical fallacy only discredits the statements containing that logical fallacy. Even then, a statement including a logical fallacy isn't necessarily false- it can simply be the case that they have failed in their attempt to back the statement. Side: Dictatorship.
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We don't have much democracy in America where people are manipulated by the dictatorship of corporate media, you get to choose between two people, money dictates the outcome of policy decision,... these contrasts nullify the assumption that people are living in a true democracy when it is more leaning towards dictatorship. Chomsky on "Democracy" in America (7min)
Side: Democracy.
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I agree there is a liberal media bias. That serves the purpose of restricting how far leftists can go. My views on this are annunciated well by professor Noam Chomsky in a documentary on the media titled Manufacturing Consent. But this 30 minute exchange gives plenty of historical evidence of the media knowingly using propaganda (a feature of dictatorship): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gu1ONVg362o If interested check out the documentary by this link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bjMRU75M AI Side: Dictatorship.
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