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Dictatorship. Democracy.
Debate Score:92
Arguments:49
Total Votes:112
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 Dictatorship. (22)
 
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No banning: Didtatorship versus democracy.

Dictatorship.

Side Score: 51
VS.

Democracy.

Side Score: 41
3 points

Showing your hypocrisy again by copying debates. I never normally ban people but I banned you as I feel no remorse in giving you a taste of your own medicine and I was unwilling for the debate to be consumed with your stupid accusations of facts being opinions. You had nothing to add to the debate.

Like I said on the original debate; Democracy weakens countries in many ways.

Side: Dictatorship.
5 points

Keep going, if she bans you her debate title is false. :D

Side: Dictatorship.
joshv(35) Disputed
2 points

When you say democracy, do you mean a pure democracy or like a republic.

Side: Democracy.
Sitar(3680) Disputed
1 point

It is only hypocrisy if I say it is wrong to ban. Classic tu quoque fallacy. If yopu can bban me, I can say something about it.

Side: Democracy.
Cartman(18192) Disputed
3 points

It is hypocrisy because you say it is wrong to copy debates. Oh, and it isn't a fallacy, it was just a statement. Calling you a hypocrite was not challenging an argument you made.

Side: Dictatorship.
Sitar(3680) Disputed
1 point

If you can ban me, I can ban you. I only banned you from my other debate because you used the ad homenim fallacy.

Side: Democracy.
thousandin1(1931) Clarified
1 point

You have a pretty shaky grasp on what does and does not constitute a fallacy. This is not limited to argumentum ad hominem, but many other ones you cite such as 'no true scotsman' and strawman arguments.

If somebody insults you, but also responds to your arguments, they are not committing any kind of fallacy whatsoever- though they are being rather rude.

Ad hominem arguments are specifically those made based on the real or perceived character of the opponent, rather than the content of the debate. Quite literally, something about the debater is used to dismiss their argument without addressing it. Examples of this would be one of the many troll personas on this site refusing to address an argument because the person making the argument is a 'liberal.'

"Are you really going to listen to an argument made by a liberal/abortionist/theist/whatever" is a solid example of argumentum ad hominem. "You're an idiot" followed by actual responses to your points is not argumentum ad hominem.

'Tu quoque' that you use rather frequently is similar; pointing out that the other party does the same thing is not a tu quoque fallacy unless it is left at that, and their argument is dismissed based on that. Pointing out that the other party does the same thing, and then going on to address their argument anyway is not tu quoque.

I'm not aware of many cases where you've legitimately been subjected to argumentum ad hominem. Many of your 'no true scotsman' assertions are either illegitimate or are grey areas. Many of what you call strawman arguments are not either.

A big fallacy that you are guilty of yourself is the 'argument from fallacy;' that is where a persons argument is dismissed in its entirety because a portion of it contained some form of logical fallacy. A logical fallacy only discredits the statements containing that logical fallacy. Even then, a statement including a logical fallacy isn't necessarily false- it can simply be the case that they have failed in their attempt to back the statement.

Side: Dictatorship.
Cuaroc(8829) Banned
1 point

Claims to be a no banning debate and someone is already banned.

Side: Dictatorship.
Sitar(3680) Disputed
2 points

I banned him by accident. How do I fix that? .

Side: Democracy.
3 points

Hey, you figured it out. Good job.

Side: Democracy.
God_(507) Disputed
0 points

You've banned two already! and one of them was one who commented on the fact that you've broken your title... I don't think it was an accident: "There are no accidents" ~ Master Oogway

Side: Dictatorship.

I would prefer a monarchy/dictatorship, but truly we haven't seen many successful or benevolent ones.

Side: Dictatorship.
joshv(35) Disputed
2 points

If we haven't seen any successful ones in the past, then why would you prefer it. Shouldn't passed examples be evidence that it doesn't work.

Side: Democracy.

Never said there weren't any. Just not many. I prefer a monarchy or dictatorship for religious reasons.

Side: Democracy.

What about a democratically-elected dictator for life, with the option for a no-confidence vote?

Edit: Nix the 10 years, maybe just strict requirements for a no-confidence vote that can be done at any time.

Side: Democracy.
3 points

You can have both. Hitler was a democratically elected dictator and the Germans worshiped him for a long time. That was until Uncle Sam kicked his a$$ back to Berlin.

Side: Democracy.
2 points

You can have both so long as you know the dictator is a potentially good one,capable of ruling justly,fairly

Side: Democracy.
2 points

Democracy has been great so far, but there is nothing about Democracy that forces people to give more rights.

Side: Democracy.
2 points

Though the principles of democracy are not always maintained and advocated,still it's way better than the rule of a cruel,despotic dictator,whose powers are unlimited for unlimited time.Democracy provides security to the masses through elections.

Side: Democracy.
-1 points

We don't have much democracy in America where people are manipulated by the dictatorship of corporate media, you get to choose between two people, money dictates the outcome of policy decision,... these contrasts nullify the assumption that people are living in a true democracy when it is more leaning towards dictatorship.

Chomsky on "Democracy" in America (7min)
Side: Democracy.
joshv(35) Disputed
1 point

Tell me, how is the corporate media a dictatorship. Most of the media i see that brainwashes people are left wing propaganda.

Side: Dictatorship.
2 points

Out of curiosity: are you saying that most media you see in general is left wing, or just that most of the media that you see that is brainwashing people is left wing?

Side: Democracy.
14giraffes(87) Clarified
1 point

I agree there is a liberal media bias. That serves the purpose of restricting how far leftists can go. My views on this are annunciated well by professor Noam Chomsky in a documentary on the media titled Manufacturing Consent. But this 30 minute exchange gives plenty of historical evidence of the media knowingly using propaganda (a feature of dictatorship): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gu1ONVg362o

If interested check out the documentary by this link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bjMRU75M AI

Side: Dictatorship.