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Non-racist National Socialism

We are socialists, we are enemies of today's capitalistic economic system for the exploitation of the economically weak, with its unfair salaries, with its unseemly evaluation of a human being according to wealth and property instead of responsibility and performance, and we are all determined to destroy this system under all conditions.
>>Bernie Sanders or Hitler?

Furthermore, thanks to the Marxist religion, they (the Russians) have everything required to make them patient. They have been promised happiness on earth (a feature which distinguishes Marxism from the Christian religion)—but in the future. The Jew, Mardochee Marx, like the good Jew that he was, was awaiting the coming of the Messiah. He has placed the Messiah conception in a setting of historic materialism by asserting that terrestrial happiness is a factor in an almost endless process of evolution. "Happiness is within your reach," he says, "that I promise you. But you must let evolution take its course and not try to hurry matters." Mankind always falls for a specious trick of that sort... Lenin did not have the time, but Stalin will carry on the good work, and so on and so on... Marxism is a very powerful force. But how shall we assess Christianity, that other child of Judaism, which will not commit itself further than to promise the faithful happiness in another world? Believe me, it is incomparably stronger!
25 February 1945.


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@SlaveDevice

You have argued elsewhere that people respond to your submission in a "knee-jerk" reaction manner & thus your ideas are not given a fair say. Now, I think I have engaged you on this topic (elsewhere) without being guilty of this, however I'm still waiting for an answer to some fundamental questions that are staples to the view you are promoting (that I see as highly problematic).

Lets start with one issue (as I see it); You have suggested that a "test" is sufficient to determine who the most intelligent & thus worthy (of life) individuals are, and such a "test" should be universally administered to quantify. Now, what such "test" do we know of that is at all capable of determining this (and even if it were the case, how do you distinguish between hereditary intelligence & environmentally influenced intelligence--as only hereditary intelligence is relevant from the perspective of Artificial Selection)?

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Slavedevice(1393) Clarified
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Thanks for your time - both here and other places.

I’m not happy that humans have reached the point that they are a scourge to Mother Earth- but humans have failed to plan, they just keep expanding and are never satisfied with a meager existence. I simply am saying humans have become a problem and may ruin our planet - and if you must toss some overboard, you definitely don’t want to toss the deadbeats that are lazy and can’t imagine the future.

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@SlaveDevice

Thanks for your time - both here and other places.

Its my pleasure--I'm interested in discussing with people of quite different positions/perspectives than my own. I hope our correspondence can be mutually beneficial

I’m not happy that humans have reached the point that they are a scourge to Mother Earth- but humans have failed to plan, they just keep expanding and are never satisfied with a meager existence.

I agree

I simply am saying humans have become a problem and may ruin our planet

Agreed

and if you must toss some overboard, you definitely don’t want to toss the deadbeats that are lazy and can’t imagine the future

Here, we diverge. I understand the principle behind your argument, however I don't agree that we need to "throw people overboard"--in our current situation at least.

Have you seen my Thread exploring the Superiority of a Meritocratic Oligarchy over a Democratic Republic as well as my Thread discussing a new format for Constrained Market System--as these were intended to address many of the concerns you are raising here--without the need to systemically execute/exterminate large masses of the population?

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Slavedevice(1393) Clarified
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I think hereditary intelligence is probably the choice. I am very much like the Nazis, but I feel the Aryan race is not necessarily the most competent. I’m all for allowing other races to take the test.

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xMathFanx(1722) Clarified
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@SlaveDevice

There is strong reason to believe that even average-range Human intellect is capable of extraordinary feats (by modern standards) & has barely even began to be tapped into. The problem is the environment it is raised into & product of that (currently) causes rampant, mass ignorance & stupidity. I have discussed this matter further on CD and can link you to it if you are interested

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