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Nothing is true, everything is permitted

Do you understand what those words really mean? When my mentor told me those words I didn't understand them at all, it took time for me to understand. I felt betrayed by those words, like everything I had ever been taught was a lie...But then I came to realize:
Nothing is true- nothing can be known with absolute certainty, we are limited by our own perception, only by having awareness of what we don't know can we begin to come into true understanding.
Everything is permitted- All of the rules of society and the values we hold ourselves to are fragile and precarious, for they are not written into human nature as if it were chizzled from stone, it is more akin to layers of paint coating and masking the rough shell of human consciousness, applied through repetition and the behavioral reinforcement we where subjected to, only by understanding this and still choosing to do right can the human race attain true virtue.

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Antrim(1287)
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If your statement;- nothing is true-nothing can be known with absolute certainty is true then your profound revelation is an oxymoron.

If what you assert is not true then it is a self contradiction.

So, is your proclamation true or false?

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Altair(3) Disputed
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Those words aren't to be taken literally, they have a deeper meaning as I already explained. To learn the truth you must first recognise that you don't know the truth, otherwise you are the victim of your own projections and the projections of others. There is a reason scientist still call things "theories" even when all the evidence points in that direction.To recognise the limits of your perception and continue to question everything no matter how certain it seems is not an oxymoron, it is the most basic and fundamental building block of wisdom.

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Kalamazoo(333) Disputed
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When a statement is proven wrong it's author always resorts to one of two qualifying rationalizations in a futile attempt to edit their original assertion.

1) My statement was taken out of context.

2) The text, or in the case of the Biblical scriptures of the Old Testaments;- '' THOSE WORDS AREN'T TO BE TAKEN LITERALLY''

Then I ask, why to hell make such words?

It is true that a circle is not a square.

Can you explain to me how that is not an absolute truth?

I repeat;- If you claim your statement;- ''NOTHING IS TRUE'' to be true then you have made a self contradictory statement and you need to recognise this and not try to waffle your way out of your misworded assertion.

Many assumptions need to be challenged and the difference between relative and absolute truth explained but such topics are separate issues and do not detract from the inappropriate use of words in the title of your thread.

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Nomenclature(1257)
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You realise that this is a mantra of Nazism, right? I'm not exaggerating either.

It is not true that nothing is true, regardless of what your "mentor" said. Perception is not to be merged with truth. They are quite simply two different things.

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Altair(3) Disputed
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Merging your perception with the truth is called learning the truth.

To learn the truth is to know that you don't know the truth.

What does this have to do with nazis? When did any nazi ever say that?

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