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Debate Score:303
Arguments:190
Total Votes:350
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Is Obama a great President?

Is he good are bad

Yes

Side Score: 145
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HELL NO

Side Score: 158

I voted for Barack Obama twice for President and I have no regrets whatsoever. In my opinion, he is a wonderful President.

Side: Yes
daver(1771) Disputed
8 points

Obama has spent this nation into what will be a 19 trillion dollar debt by the time he leaves office. We have all seen what happens when nations spend more than they have. It has never ended well. Thx Obama.

Obama has cowered before our enemies. Putin took Crimea while Obama did nothing but make empty threats.

Egypt was taken over by the Muslim Brotherhood while Obama stood by and did nothing.

The people of Iran stood up during the Arab spring (Yes they are Persians) and begged us for help to overthrow their oppressors, while Obama ignored them. Obama dithered for months while Libya battled for their freedom.

Obama traded 5 high ranking terrorists for one deserter and now wants the army to let him go, cause that would look kind off stupid. Hmmmm

Obama just signed a deal with leading sponsor of Islamic terrorism in the world. Prompting our allies to seek help in obtaining nuclear weapons from, guess who -- Putin and Kim. Thx Obama

There are more Americans living in poverty now under Obama.

Health costs continue to rise under Obamacare. Emergency rooms remain full under Obamacare. There is a doctor shortage under Obamacare. Millions remain uninsured under Obamacare. People have lost their full time jobs under Obamacare.

Have to ask, what is so wonderful about all that.

Side: HELL NO
9 points

Obama has spent this nation into what will be a 19 trillion dollar debt by the time he leaves office.

That is a fairly dishonest way of portraying it. Not only did Obama not rack up that total sum, but as a %, Obama is hardly even the worst contributor to the debt.

We have all seen what happens when nations spend more than they have. It has never ended well. Thx Obama.

The implication is that deficit spending never ends. Many if not most nations have had to deficit spend at some point or another; It's not as if Obama invented the concept.

Obama has cowered before our enemies. Putin took Crimea while Obama did nothing but make empty threats.

To be fair, the entire world did so. Note that "fair" is a bit of a joke in that instance. But out of curiosity, what would you have had him do?

Egypt was taken over by the Muslim Brotherhood while Obama stood by and did nothing.

What would you have had him do there? Nullify their democratic election and appoint a dictator, as the United States has done in the past with terrifying effect (see: Iran).

The people of Iran stood up during the Arab spring (Yes they are Persians) and begged us for help to overthrow their oppressors, while Obama ignored them. Obama dithered for months while Libya battled for their freedom.

There was little to nothing we could do in Iran. Any attempt to forcefully impact the outcome would have led to a global economic catastrophe due to Iran's power over oil shipping and refining, and an unbelievably large political conflict would have ensued, the likes of which would have led to far more serious criticisms of Obama.

As for Libya, dithering isn't a horrible thing to do. When the United States jumps into conflicts, we almost always end up getting something wrong. Whether it is invading the wrong country, supplying weapons to the wrong groups, supporting the wrong groups, etc, dithering is not an inherently negative thing here.

Obama traded 5 high ranking terrorists for one deserter and now wants the army to let him go, cause that would look kind off stupid. Hmmmm

Whatever happened to no one gets left behind?

Obama just signed a deal with leading sponsor of Islamic terrorism in the world. Prompting our allies to seek help in obtaining nuclear weapons from, guess who -- Putin and Kim. Thx Obama

I am not sold on the Iran deal by any means, but would would you have him do?

There are more Americans living in poverty now under Obama.

I would have a great time if you could try to argue how that is Obama's fault, especially when the source cited says that the rate had been climbing until right before he took office and is currently in decline.

Health costs continue to rise under Obamacare. Emergency rooms remain full under Obamacare. There is a doctor shortage under Obamacare. Millions remain uninsured under Obamacare. People have lost their full time jobs under Obamacare.

http://www.factcheck.org/2014/02/aca-impact-on-per-capita-cost-of-health- care/

Pointing to problems that existed before the ACA is not pointing to evidence of things caused by the ACA. I am no fan of it, by any means, but the criticisms of it are far too often partisan.

Have to ask, what is so wonderful about all that.

At least he isn't Bush? That's about all I can think of that bodes well for him.

Side: Yes
4 points

Wonderful? In what regards? His administration's race baiting? Doubling the national debt? His weakness in foreign affairs? Increasing the costs of health insurance? Class warfare waging? What exactly is it that is so wonderful?

Side: HELL NO
1 point

Obama has messed the country's healthcare system up with his Obamacare.Obama has decreased the military's budget making it harder to repair and run military equipment/transportation equipment (ships, tanks, jets,ETC.)... The country is losing ties with China and other countries because of him... And granted Bush did give Obama a handful when he got office but it has all went down hill when Obama came into office.

So how can he be a wonderful president???

Side: HELL NO
8 points

It ALL went downhill? Obama created millions of jobs (over 11 million in the past 5 years), he passed the ACA (which, granted, is not perfect, but is definitely a step in the right direction and has improved healthcare access in this country, and has reduced the number of deaths that could have been prevented), made great strides in balancing the deficit that Bush left for him (reducing it by more than half). He's reduced the number of homeless veterans, enforced equal pay laws, began the withdrawl of troops from the Middle East, supported and removed debilitating restrictions on stem cell research. He helped the environment and auto sales with the Cash4Clunkers program. He also has used his platform as president to call attention to other issues, such as rape/sexual assault, the lack of paid maternity/paternity leave in this country, diversity, education costs, climate change, etc.

Is he perfect? No, of course not, but to say everything went downhill is insane and a blatant lie. He did a lot of good, while working with an opposing, obstinate majority party in Congress.

Side: Yes
5 points

Obama has messed the country's healthcare system up with his Obamacare.

Uh, hu.

Sure.

Good thing there's so much evidence to to back that up.

Glad you did all this research.

Obama has decreased the military's budget making it harder to repair and run military equipment/transportation equipment (ships, tanks, jets,ETC.)...

Again, um... Military spending has increased under Obama.

Again, great research. xD

And granted Bush did give Obama a handful when he got office but it has all went down hill when Obama came into office.

And again... you clearly have no idea what's changed since bush left office.

Side: Yes
3 points

A great president, he was.

A great person, he was not.

Side: Yes
3 points

Often giving the majority of people what they want doesn't support the future of a country in a positive way, even if the majority can't necessarily see it. Things like gun laws and gay marriage (thanks to Obama) might not be supported by the majority, but less guns only means less fighting (which is good) and not supporting gay marriage is like saying "I'm on a diet so you can't eat donuts." (Not supporting is selfish). So even though these examples of things that Obama has done aren't supported by the majority of America, they make the world now and in the future a better place. Obama is therefore awesome.

I don't even live in America. #straya

Side: Yes
2 points

He is one of the best presidents the United States has ever seen. How often do you see a president standing out 2 times? He has contributed a lot to basic human rights and made allies with a lot more countries which the States did not bother about earlier.

My vote goes to Obama! Cheers

Side: Yes
2 points

Barack, is a proficient president. In comparison to many other countries' presidents, he overcomes quite the amount. He has flaws, everyone has them, but he still maintains his role as an idol to many.

Side: Yes
1 point

Obama is a great president. He looks out for the poor people in his plan Obama Care. I think that your income should matter when you pay taxes and for health care. He also is very open and supports gay marriage, which I think should be legal. Obama has done a great decision by firing Hillary Clinton and replacing her with John Kerry, who along with Obama has improved our foreign relations with many countries including: China, Iran, and Russia. During his term, our economy came back from the Great Recession and ended the War in Iraq. So is Obama a great president? Hell freakin' yeah!

Side: Yes

As far as I can see he's one of the best we've had in a long time (granted, Bush wasn't much to compare to). He's definitely a president to be remembered, many of the things he's done will hugely benefit us in the long run.

Side: Yes
5 points

Well, Obama is indeed the greatest President we have ever had as far as supporting the killing of healthy late term unborn Babies and forcing us all to pay for it. He still supports Planned Parenthood regardless how they harvest Baby organs for money from healthy late term Babies.

Obama is the greatest fanatical extremist when it comes to pushing the Liberal Ideology.

He has helped force every state in the union to change their marriage laws regardless what the people wanted in their own state.

He is yet one more Democrat gun control fanatic.

He hates the rule of law and has ushered in anything goes illegal immigrant policies on all the nation no matter the cost. The Democrat party obviously sees the illegal immigrant vote down the road.

He is absolutely the greatest debtor spending president in our history. He has double our national debt of every past president combined.

So if you look at his presidency in terms of the greatest harm put on our nation, he wins hands down.

Side: HELL NO
instig8or(3307) Disputed
4 points

He is not a gun control fanatic, he was rather reasonable in all his policies actually.

Side: Yes
FromWithin(6310) Disputed
4 points

If Obama could make yet one more executive order, the gun laws he would push would be unbearable. He and the Democrat party have not been able to accomplish their extreme goals on gun control control YET!

They have tried to make the cost of ammunitions very expensive so as to make it unaffordable to have guns and ammo. Just like they did with cigarrette taxes trying to make it too expensive to smoke. THESE ARE CONTROL FANATICS!

Side: HELL NO
Cartman(18192) Disputed
3 points

Well, Obama is indeed the greatest President we have ever had as far as supporting the killing of healthy late term unborn Babies and forcing us all to pay for it. He still supports Planned Parenthood regardless how they harvest Baby organs for money from healthy late term Babies.

Funny fact: there have been fewer abortions during the Obama presidency than during Bush. Another funny fact: you don't pay for abortions. Final funny fact: Planned Parenthood was selling fetal organs when Bush was president.

He is absolutely the greatest debtor spending president in our history. He has double our national debt of every past president combined.

The current debt is 18 trillion. If you are right, that means that Obama would have had to come into office with 6 trillion in debt to run up twice as much as all presidents combined. Do you really stand by that?

Supporting Evidence: CDC Numbers (www.cdc.gov)
Side: Yes
outlaw60(12323) Disputed
4 points

Taxpayers pay for the abortions do they not ? Government funding of Planned Parenthood comes from where ?

Side: HELL NO
FromWithin(6310) Disputed
4 points

You keep confirming why I ban you from my arguments. You spew totally twisted meaningless facts.

Where did you learn math?

We were 8 or 9 Trillion in debt when Obama took office. That is the accumulation of all prior presidents. Now lets see, if I double 9 Trillion, I get 18 TRILLION.

NO ONE KNEW ABOUT WHAT PLANNED PARENTHOOD WAS DOING UNTIL THE UNDERCOVER VIDEOS! Now Obama and the Democrat party know full well what they are doing and they don't care. SICK!

The GOP has tried many times to stop funding PP but Democrats always stop them. PP does abortions and we fund PP! Medicaid pays for low income abortions and tax payers fund it!

Stop wasting my time.

Side: HELL NO
4 points

So, before I rate the current President, I feel the need to disclose that I am a Republican. That being said, I didn't mind Clinton, and frankly I could like with most of the Democratic presidents that were elected in the recent past. But, I am appalled that our current sitting president has used the office to create a legacy (and a shameful one at that) which will go down in history as the darkest days of America. A president who bough votes by promising free healthcare, welfare, and frankly all the wrong incentives to growing America to be a great country. Obama has no foreign policy and if he did it would probably be better than the shambles he is leaving us with. Frankly, Obama should have never been elected president not the first or second time. But we are stuck with him so let's make the best of it!

Side: HELL NO
4 points

our current sitting president has used the office to create a legacy (and a shameful one at that) which will go down in history as the darkest days of America

Darker than slavery? Darker than Jackson's genocidal trail of tears? Darker than the japanese internment camps? Don't you think that is at least slightly hyperbolic?

A president who bough votes by promising free healthcare, welfare, and frankly all the wrong incentives to growing America to be a great country.

Is it really buying votes if one is proposing programs that people ideologically agree with? That's like saying Republicans buy votes with tax cuts or war with Iran.

Obama has no foreign policy and if he did it would probably be better than the shambles he is leaving us with.

Now there I can certainly agree with you.

Frankly, Obama should have never been elected president not the first or second time. But we are stuck with him so let's make the best of it!

He wouldn't have been if the Republicans presented better alternatives.

Side: Yes

me being sarcastic

No, even darker than slavery, ya know Obama is a Muslim. That instantly means he a terrorist. And he started 9/11 to nail George Bush Started New Conspiracy Theory

No, way worse. You know he wanted to end the war in the Middle East so ISIS could nuke our nation to death.

Even worse! He's rounding up guns are burning them noooooooo my precious guns But seriously I want me guns...

No no not at all, if someone is saying that they will do what some people believe should happen that means they are instantly buying their votes! :D

I have nothing to say about this because Obama doesn't have a foreign policy and that is one BIG problem

Well republicans are badass with their big ass machine guns and we just thought that we didn't need to present better terms because we are awesome and who wouldn't want to live in Texas, Own a ranch and be a republican :D

No offense to Andy, Texans (I live in Texas), Ranch owners (I love da rural), and Republicans (I am a Democrat by the meaning of the word but for what the past Democratic leaders have done... I vote Republican)

Side: Yes
3 points

Can anyone tell me the greatness of this total failure of a president ?

Side: HELL NO
4 points

He made the Bush Tax Cuts permanent.

Side: HELL NO
outlaw60(12323) Disputed
4 points

That makes Obie great ? Is that all he has done to make him great ? What is really great about about Obie ?

Side: Yes
3 points

There has never been a more divisive extremist president than Obama. He spit on the majority of Americans who did not want Obamacare, gun control, Gay marriage, forced paying for abortions, amnesty for illegal immigrants. He supported the IRS discriminating against Conservatives. No one was ever fired for that corruption! He constantly fanned the flames of racism pitting Americans against each other.

He spent more time protecting Muslems than he did Christians or Jews. Go figure!

He is without a doubt the worst President in our history. No surprise that that title went to the most Liberal presdent in our history.

Side: HELL NO
3 points

Didn't Clinton do all those things. How is Obama worse?

Side: HELL NO
GoneFishing(126) Disputed
2 points

Last time i checked the debate is why Obama was a great president (or why not). Not how he was worst than other presidents.

Side: Yes
3 points

No Andy! He sucks and this debate has been featured for months! Jesus H Christ! You own this site and you're not even trying!

Side: HELL NO

I wouldn't say "great" president, but hes a hell a lot better than John McCain or Mitt Romney.

Side: HELL NO
Hellno(17745) Disputed
2 points

How do you know Barry is better than McCain would have been? Barry Obama had zero experience. Just because a liberal medal didn't bother to vet a no experience first term senator with a close to zero voting record.... really?

John McCain is a war hero! He refused release for two years in a Vietnam prison

Side: Yes
GenericName(3387) Clarified
2 points

How do you know Barry is better than McCain would have been?

Because he didn't trust Sarah Palin.

Barry Obama had zero experience.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/ article/2008/mar/07/obamas-20-years-experience/

He had plenty of political experience. Whether or not you believe political experience is truly valuable is clearly up for debate, but he definitely had more than "zero experience".

John McCain is a war hero! He refused release for two years in a Vietnam prison

I agree, but that hardly qualifies someone to be president, or serves as experience relevant to the office.

Side: Yes
2 points

I neigther support nor oppose Obama. I support him on somethings, but oppose him on others I supprt the Affordable Care Act, healthcare and contraceptive rights, gay riand bisexual rights, helping the poor and disabled, and so on. What I won't support is abortion, war, torture, assassinating people without due process, warrantless wiretapping, and just plain whining about Bush Jr. policies while doing many of the same things. Obama has both good and bad policies, and he is a hypocrite.

Side: Yes
Jacobcoolguy(2368) Clarified
2 points

He wants to invade everyone, thats why.

Side: Yes
2 points

Everyone just voted for him because he was a N... It's true. But if we didnt elect him it would have been racist. Because ya know... first N president... yaaaayyyyyyy....

Side: HELL NO

Damn right. Your now my ally

Side: HELL NO
2 points

Oh god, don't even get me started. Oh wait, this site is where I go off on all my rants anyways, so I guess I will get started. Okay, what has he accomplished? Traveling to Cuba and medicare? Great! I can go to the beach, get eaten by a shark, and not worry about health insurance!

Side: HELL NO
1 point

This is actually fun!

You can actually match to current candidates, past presidents and Supreme Court judges etc, find out where in the parties you fall, you' ll be surprised. Detailed analysis of your views.

I just took this test. It is a very good way to identify who you actually agree with most on all the issues.

I'll post it for you.

You should all take the test, but for an accurate answer you HAVE TO click on the question link so you can pick the answer that is most like your own personal views.

Out of everyone including Obama, and I HATE Obama as a leader, Jill Stein was even lower than him on my test results.

Please everyone at least do this, you will get a better pic of where you stand without all the talking points.

There are different analysis you can look at also in the results section.

But it will NOT be accurate if you don't read each questions link to what it means if you answer Answers are NOT actually obvious!

http://www.ontheissues.org/Quiz/Quiz2016.asp#sec0

Side: HELL NO