Obama kills US citizen without due process.
How dare he!
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Hail the great leader!
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I'd like to see proof that Obama did this without due process because he said he did. I'm not saying I believe him, but it would be interesting to see proof. It would be more interesting to see proof that he did use due process. Either way, I'd like to see the outcome. Now, someone might argue that this is conservative media bullshit against Obama. I will let someone make that argument because I might agree with them. I'm writing a debate about whether the government needs continuous opposition from the people. I mean in both aggressive and peaceful forms. This would be relevant because if you had proof he did this, it's proof that the government needs to be opposed aggressively or peacefully. I'd still say it's a good argument for both. Side: How dare he!
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I agree with you. And I wasn't paying attention to the video, ironically. So, I'm a hypocrite for trying to have you prove anything. I think I'm going to switch my argument now. Although it is possible that he did and he won't reveal to the public what the process was. Probably because it was immoral. Either way, he's corrupt. Side: Hail the great leader!
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Like the past trillion presidents we've had, he's corrupt, where they be a Democrat or a Republican. Now, he's a democrat, with some good ideas. But even Obama has to take funding from the upper class, not the lower class. So, there are a many possibilities, but some notable ones to me are: 1. He didn't have due process because he didn't like the guy 2. the mafia, or something, paid him to do it 3. He did have due process, but he purposely had a corrupt, unconstitutional, form of due process And if it's either those three things, or something in that same category, it obviously makes sense that he's done something immoral. Side: How dare he!
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I do not consider President Obama to be a "great leader," although I know why someone would want me to say that (it's a reference to what North Koreans call their dictator). Moreover, I do not condone killing of any kind. Therefore, I if this is even true, I do not support it.This is not a matter of "how dare he" versus "hail the 'great leader.'" The last "great leader" we had did the same kinds of things, and I never heard from the right wing about it. However, the source for this is dubious, biased, and not credible. The language the narrator uses is highly inflammatory, and the rhetoric is designed to make me be afraid rather than be informed. Fear is a way the powerful control us, and information is how we fight against it. So, when someone comes out telling me "the gob'ment is gonna kill you; you better be afraid," I question why they are telling me how I should react to information. Normally, I like deciding how I feel on my own when I read information from a credible/unbiased source. There is nothing about that video that is credible OR unbiased. So, since the information is incredibly biased, and the rhetoric is designed to induce fear inside me, I question the authenticity of the information. It is well-known that fear is a primal emotion with which humans tend to disregard rational thought, and react without thinking; I believe this video, and other polarized sources all over the internet use that fear to fool us into thinking things that aren't true. It may be true, I have no idea. I am merely saying, I have not seen anything about this from a credible/unbiased source. If someone knows of one (foreign media is usually much more reliable than American for-profit corporate-run media), please let me know, and maybe post a link on here. I like knowing the truth, but when someone gives me information and tells me how I should react to it, I question the source. If it's really that scary, I shouldn't need to be told it's scary. Side: Hail the great leader!
I can't play the video for some reason, but was it is referring to Anwar al-Awlaki? He was a U.S. citizen ordered killed. This is really common knowledge. Here is a wiki quote: "In June 2014, a previously classified memorandum issued by the United States Department of Justice was released, justifying al-Awlaki's death as a lawful act of war." Again, if that's what this post is about, I am glad the guy is dead. It would be a lawful act of war (we have treason laws) so long as Yemen approved the drones (we have done strikes in countries without permission). Either way, the fact of Obama ordered the killing of a U.S. citizen without due process can be verified through multiple media outlets. Unfortunately people seem to think a valid defense for their side is to point out problems with the other side. This is fallacious regardless of the side. Since I can't see the vid, can you tell me if I'm off? Side: How dare he!
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