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Ok, I'll just admit it...

You cannot achieve RBE without first having a global government which is technocratic in nature. This entails extreme tyranny but it's the only way to do it. If it's not done, then there is no way to make society transform into being reason-based because you cannot reason with the majority of humans as they are now. What good will education do if you are not in control of the media, the schools and even the parents? The new generations will be too influenced by the insanity of humanity as it currently is unless WE are the ones with the authority, the technocratic social engineers. 
Furthermore if there is no technocracy, then MONEY will decide who gains bio-tech enhancement and becomes transhuman gods rather than INTELLIGENCE and we will be ruled by the inheritors forever rather than those of true merit. It is the wealthy who have power currently, and that is dangerous because we are fast approaching Type 1 Kardashev status and if capitalism remains much longer humanities fate will be sealed in the worst way. The beorgiosie needs to be killed off and so do all those who are too retarded to conform to objective reason. Humanity as it is now cannot make it to the future, it needs to be FORCED to go in the right direction and people need to be brainwashed and biologically altered into reasonable beings before they can be trusted with any autonomy.
Ultimately, society will be ruled by reason rather than individuals when everyone is reasonable but that will never happen unless artificial forms of superiority such as wealth are replaced with real forms such as intelligence and the masses are culled and brainwashed until only reason is left.
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Amarel(5669) Banned
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This is exactly how you get Stalin and Mao. You’re not better than them. You will not do a better job than them. But it doesn’t matter because you will never be in their position.

You cannot achieve RBE without first having a global government which is technocratic in nature. This entails extreme tyranny but it's the only way to do it. If it's not done, then there is no way to make society transform into being reason-based because you cannot reason with the majority of humans as they are now. What good will education do if you are not in control of the media, the schools and even the parents?

In other words Nazi Germany.

https://www.britannica.com/topic/education/Nazi-Germany

https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/en/article/the-press-in-the-third-reich

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In other words the nation with the head of government who says and does what he wants, breaks the law with impunity and attacks the media 36 times a day is Nazi Germany

Hitler didn't attack the media. It worked for him and promoted what he wanted, just like the liberal media did for Obama. The media in America attacks Trump relentlessly, which is obviously the opposite...

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Holocaust survivor on concentration camp comparison: 'Grow up'

'Listen to me, I went through it. Please. This is not a concentration camp.'

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/248319

Nom_Chomsky(846) Disputed
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In other words Nazi Germany.

In other words the nation with the head of government who says and does what he wants, breaks the law with impunity and attacks the media 36 times a day is Nazi Germany. Don't believe me? Then just ask someone who actually lived in Nazi Germany:-

Holocaust Survivor On Trump's America: It's '1929 Or 1930 Berlin

https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/holocaust-survivor-on-far-right-in-trumps-america-its-1929-or-1930-berlinn5acb8aa3e4b0337ad1ea5a71?guccounter=1&gucereferrer=aHR0cHM6Ly9jb25zZW50LnlhaG9vLmNvbS8&gucereferrersig=AQAAAByxeBNgKgV6R4hgwsMJGpmKVssABY2Z8YGUrlIr3v8MvKuhza85tDgVWFEXNGDRmPfuotk6SAXH0KQt-AKtyFizEgXqzLihZhSPCf5tfYVzRnbwiY0w38CFzYJHCei8KeEzn4qsTX-wpYdmvV7cMFYiPxwviPe1c2h-OqP2W

What My Escape From Hitler's Germany Taught Me About Trump's America

https://www.thenation.com/article/escape-hitlers-germany-taught-trumps-america/

A leading Holocaust historian just compared the US to Nazi Germany

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/ 2018/10/5/17940610/trump-hitler-history-historian

are replaced with real forms such as intelligence and the masses are culled and brainwashed until only reason is left.

In other words use nonreason to force your version of reason, which might actually not be reason, but insanity.

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Factocracy(346) Clarified
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Intelligence and hard work get you the money in the first place, even in the world today.

It all depends on the specific context. Sometimes that is true, sometimes the opposite is true.

Mingiwuwu(1446) Clarified
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Meth Head you typed this ???????????????????

Ok, I'll just admit it...

You cannot achieve RBE without first having a global government which is technocratic in nature. This entails extreme tyranny but it's the only way to do it. If it's not done, then there is no way to make society transform into being reason-based because you cannot reason with the majority of humans as they are now. What good will education do if you are not in control of the media, the schools and even the parents? The new generations will be too influenced by the insanity of humanity as it currently is unless WE are the ones with the authority, the technocratic social engineers.

Furthermore if there is no technocracy, then MONEY will decide who gains bio-tech enhancement and becomes transhuman gods rather than INTELLIGENCE and we will be ruled by the inheritors forever rather than those of true merit. It is the wealthy who have power currently, and that is dangerous because we are fast approaching Type 1 Kardashev status and if capitalism remains much longer humanities fate will be sealed in the worst way. The beorgiosie needs to be killed off and so do all those who are too retarded to conform to objective reason. Humanity as it is now cannot make it to the future, it needs to be FORCED to go in the right direction and people need to be brainwashed and biologically altered into reasonable beings before they can be trusted with any autonomy.

Ultimately, society will be ruled by reason rather than individuals when everyone is reasonable but that will never happen unless artificial forms of superiority such as wealth are replaced with real forms such as intelligence and the masses are culled and brainwashed until only reason is left.

Meth Head you just BABBLE about nothing but you need to roll another bowl and then your mind could be RIGHT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!