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Debate Score:71
Arguments:51
Total Votes:84
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One Country

Should the countries around the owrld unite as one to make one big country?

GOOD IDEA

Side Score: 29
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BAD IDEA

Side Score: 42
3 points

I believe it is inevitable, sort of, but impossible now.

Looking at the curve of human history it tends toward more united, more shared resources, overall higher standard of living. Now, there are wars, obviously still impoverished areas (and a lot of them) but overall when looking from a distance humanity only goes one direction in our experience so far.

At some point the concept of "country" will not mean what it means today as inequalities in rights and resources slowly disappear. At the point when there is more equality than inequality, when even cultures have molded into something overall shared, though perhaps different. Then it will not so much be a matter of one country swallowing all others, but that "country" is no longer needed.

It seems as alien as to us now as the idea of any "country" would have seemed to cavemen tens of thousands of years ago. I believe something like this will happen though, in some tens of thousands of years or so.

Side: GOOD IDEA
2 points

I like it! One big giant world owned by the United States!

Side: GOOD IDEA
Axmeister(4322) Disputed
3 points

"I like it! One big giant world owned by the United States!"

Of course, you really meant Britain but said USA to annoy me.

Side: BAD IDEA
DevinSeay(1120) Disputed
1 point

There would be a massacare every 5 seconds. World's population would plumet.

Side: BAD IDEA
Hellno(17753) Disputed
1 point

Should the countries around the owrld unite as one to make one big country

If they chose to unite and be one under the authority of the USA as I suggested then why would there be a massacre? It was their choice.

Side: GOOD IDEA
uncadeau(26) Disputed
1 point

The fact that so much of the world has a problem with the US, is likely to make your suggestion very unsuccessful. Rather have world presidents as your parliament or something.

The whole idea is ludicrous though, the world is fine as is, it allows different people to segregate, sort of a 'good fences make good neighbours' idea. And there would be raging civil wars all the time.

This is what we have the UN for.

Side: BAD IDEA
1 point

True, England is so much more awesome - there is simply no competition. We should be in charge of the world.

Side: BAD IDEA
2 points

Weather it is a bad or a good idea is irrelevant. Population is skyrocketing, there are environmental problems, and were running out of resources, we need a unified government that can take the world and the 11 billion people that live on this planet and due something amazing. Every time in history when a unifier of smaller countries makes a single one human beings are able to accomplish amazing things. Some examples, the founding fathers making a solidified government over the confederacy, china and the unification of the 7 kingdoms then making the great wall, and boudicca rebelling against roman oppressors. Sure there will probably be a group oppressed or lakes of spilled blood from a war to unite, but that has less to do with the idea of a world power and more to do with human nature. History our greatest teacher has shown us to civilization is immune to corruption or being an oppressor, but such is life at least the death and poverty of some will not be in vain and can be enjoyed by future generations.

Side: GOOD IDEA
benstiller8(9) Disputed
1 point

look at what happened when Russia unified neighboring countries to form the USSR. Besides, on a slightly less desolate prediction of what would happen, we wouldn't have freedom to move to somewhere else and have a different form of government, because it would all be the same. And whenever any empire gets too big, it simply collapses, every time.

Side: BAD IDEA
2 points

Boundaries need to be uninvented someday. Boundaries only still exist because we're too stupid to realize that they accomplish nothing except separate us and contribute to us acting like animals.

Yes.

Animals.

You know how animals mark territory to survive and not compete?

Well, that's what national boundaries are. Just sophisticated ways for us to mark territory because we're still barbaric animals that don't want to get along apparently.

So yes, having just one country is a good idea and will be inevitable. If it never happens, all that shows is that we'll never stop being territorial beasts... which I do not believe we want to continue being.

Side: GOOD IDEA
1 point

It's not like if the world unified that every would just imediately intermix! The only real difference is that rather than being Town Laws, Region Laws, Federal Laws, it would be Town Laws, Region Laws, Federal Laws, World Laws. Some federations would still function one way, some another, some with lots of crime, some with little. Just with a few universally true laws

Side: GOOD IDEA
1 point

Actually, i don't mind) Good idea. But there are many problems. it takes a lot of time to be one country. if we really want to be one country, people should try not fight with each other. we are not saying that we will be one country immediately , we gradually become one country if we want it. being one country has good sides, our life will be full of adventures. no visas, you will travel where you want. i think good idea, but difficult.

Side: GOOD IDEA
1 point

The sooner the better, the faster we can move on. In order to succeed everything must be unified one day.

Having different countries only causes trouble and problems.

Side: GOOD IDEA
1 point

Well, kind of. But the fact you noted it as a country is still bad. The idea of linking all the countries is just that we don't have these barriers any more! Just one planet with a species that gets along! But that's a bit much to ask for, looking back through history! I mean in tribal times they din't need countries. They just stuck to their part of the woods, not really knowing about what else there was.

Side: GOOD IDEA

A New World Order would put the end to war. I hope this concept becomes a reality one day.

Side: GOOD IDEA
3 points

Everyone fights with each other. How are we going to "unite" the world? The Middle East is enough evidence to see that this wouldn't work in a million years.

Side: BAD IDEA
Matt314159(11) Disputed
1 point

It's not like having a universal set of laws would suddenly force a ton of countries in peace or war! It's simple, Nations would be like huge states that followed a global constitution. Now these states could dominate one another, unite, divide, or even overturn themselves completely. One state might be communist, one might be capitalist. But they would all follow a few global laws

Side: GOOD IDEA
FleshEaterUK(34) Disputed
1 point

That's what the world is like now. Except you've used the word 'State' to describe a 'Nation'.

Side: BAD IDEA
2 points

There is a reason why business monlopolies are illegal. If there is one country, there would be no competition, so it would never feel that it needs to improve.

If you think it would stop wars, it wouldn't. There are constantly rebellions against larger countries. Take Northern Ireland for example, or Tibet, or Kurdistan. You cannot stop rebellions and they constantly cause thousands of deaths.

Also, take China. It is a huge country that is incredibly rich. But it is so vast that it doesn't care about the details, like tiny villages, and it would be incredibly hard to govern them.

Who would be leader? Is there any person that we can trust in the hands of our earth? We couldn't even decide who should run the UK last election, even after the vote.

Side: BAD IDEA
1 point

I'd like being right next to Iraq............... Are you crazy! There would be nonstop wars forever!!

I think we shoukd keep our space for now

Side: BAD IDEA
MuckaMcCaw(1970) Disputed
1 point

There have already been nonstop wars forever. And most of them arise due to having borders, drawing lines in the sand. Keeping the long established notion that we should put our loyalty to essentially arbitrarily defined groups instead of to one human races is to keep war possible.

Side: GOOD IDEA
FleshEaterUK(34) Disputed
1 point

What, so you're saying you can stop violence by forcing people under your power by drawing your borders in the sand around theirs?

Side: BAD IDEA
1 point

no!!!!!!!!!!!!! that is a very bad idea. we would be at war with ourselves. there would be to many disputes. we would also be to spread out. if we were "one" country, yet had the different continents, it would be to hard to communicate with each other. and, what type of power would it be? kings and queens, prime ministers, or presidents? there would need to be one decided power. with the debts, there would be no way to pay them off, since, they would have combined. it would never go away.

Side: BAD IDEA
MuckaMcCaw(1970) Disputed
1 point

there would be to many disputes.

Any more than there are already? Many wars are waged for control of territories and resources. If we all had equal access to these things, there would be less need for conflict.

if we were "one" country, yet had the different continents, it would be to hard to communicate with each other.

You have heard of the internet, right? We can already communicate all over the world, but with a standardized forum for communication not regulated by different sets of rules and censorship, as well as dedicated translators constantly on, overall communication should be more widespread and efficient.

and, what type of power would it be? kings and queens, prime ministers, or presidents? there would need to be one decided power.

It is hard to tell, since nothing on this scale has ever been tried. However, trial and error and evaluation of the most efficacious aspects of extant governments could possibly forge an appropriate system of leadership. Whatever it is, it probably wouldn't be quite like any system already in existence. And why one decided power? Why not a system of bodies with checks and balances and specific areas of authority and responsibility?

with the debts, there would be no way to pay them off, since, they would have combined. it would never go away.

The debts wouldn't have to exist anymore if all economies were combined into one central pot with global access.

The question about leadership is fair, but everything else you posit seems backwards to me. These problems are created by having individual nations. A unified world without borders should have little difficulty in overcoming these issues.

Side: GOOD IDEA

"Country" is just a word. No matter how "united" you made the world appear, you would still have different and rival cultures.

If the world all became the grand country of LoompaLand, would the United States pull out of Afghanistan? No, they'd continue fighting, but it would be recorded as civil war instead of international war.

Wouldn't make any difference at all.

Side: BAD IDEA
MuckaMcCaw(1970) Disputed
1 point

Wouldn't make any difference at all.

I disagree. The primary impetus for conflict typically boils down to unequal allocations of resources and territory. With essentially equal access to these things, there would be a lot less need for most conflicts. As far as ethnic differences, these distinctions would gradually become unnecessary if we started thinking along the lines of "I am human" instead of "I am American/Jewish/etc." Only time would tell what the real result would be, but I think a decrease in in-group rivalry could prevail eventually.

As far as other differences: communication could be more efficient, particularly now that we have the internet. Areas low in key resources could have better access to them, people could find it easier to go wherever they want to, and wherever they are needed. Extant national debts could be called off as a global economic system is being set up. And, in the highly unlikely event of an alien invasion (or meteor strike or the like) we could martial our forces more easily and expediently.

I think it is kind of myopic to think that nothing would change by implementing a system that has never been tried before and is contradictory to pretty much all of human history.

Side: GOOD IDEA
ChuckHades(3197) Disputed
1 point

With essentially equal access to these things, there would be a lot less need for most conflicts

But no matter what you call the world, the allocation of its resources would remain the same. Why should the land we call America have equal access to the oil in the land we call Iraq? In the one country system, the people that live in what we call Iraq would be just as protective over their oil whether Iraq was a country or not. War would still break out, because places rich in resources would not see why they should have to give up their resources to places without resources. It would just be called "civil war".

As far as ethnic differences, these distinctions would gradually become unnecessary if we started thinking along the lines of "I am human" instead of "I am American/Jewish/etc." Only time would tell what the real result would be, but I think a decrease in in-group rivalry could prevail eventually.

That's Utopian, and could only be achieved through some sort of horrendous indoctrination, I would guess.

Areas low in key resources could have better access to them

But this brings us back: why should these areas be entitled to the resources? If everyone has the same resources, then what potential is there for an economy?

Extant national debts could be called off as a global economic system is being set up.

Try getting everyone to agree to that.

And, in the highly unlikely event of an alien invasion (or meteor strike or the like) we could martial our forces more easily and expediently.

How does an army help against a meteor strike?

I think it is kind of myopic to think that nothing would change by implementing a system that has never been tried before and is contradictory to pretty much all of human history.

Once one understands that "country" is just a word and nothing more, then one sees that human nature will make sure that there is constant conflict, if not based on country, then on region, culture, race, etc. And if you eliminate all of these, then you just end up with a society of mindless drones, without any individuality or uniqueness.

Side: BAD IDEA
1 point

I think it would be cool. It may not stop disputes and in certain regions people would still speak other languages but we would have the same currency. In this recession having the same currency would help poorer countries.

Side: BAD IDEA

Any world with one world government or country would simply be a nightmare except those in power.

Side: BAD IDEA

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Side: BAD IDEA
1 point

I wish that this could happen but it never would, because there would be wars, arguments, chaos about who would rule, if many people ruled this 'one country' then there would be arguments between these rulers about courses of action etc. If one person was to rule, then they would most likely go mad with power.

Side: BAD IDEA

No, we shouldn't unite all the countries of the world. Everyone has their own differences, and to be quite fair and realistic, if It did happen then it wouldn't last long.

We already have large cultural boundaries separating us, such as the Middle East and America(example.... Not the only people we'll have problems with). We Americans already have had a taste of the most violent of those people. There is a wide spread resentment towards the Middle East in general. The Middle East (like anybody would) probably takes this to heart and returns the hate... With well, hate. So we already have 2 very distinct and pivotal regions fighting against each other. This would only cause problems later down the road.

World peace is also not economically feasible.... Because everyone wants a fair amount of everything, the only real choice for government would be either communism,socialism,or capitalism(which would inevitably put us where we are now). Think of this... Civil war and [perhaps] poverty would motivate this "country" to return to their separate selves...

(9/11)

(The Middle East,mainly for its oil reserves. Oil is the largest market in the world as of now, and the world depends solely on oil for their resources. America, mainly for its international trade and "riches." Not to mention that they could blow up your country with a push of a pen and. A smile.)

Side: BAD IDEA

The true terror would not come as a result of unending war, but what would happen if there was a one-world government at a time of peace. What rights would be trampled with the notion of maintaining peace. Wart keeps oppressors and power-seekers at each other's throats and away from ours.

Side: BAD IDEA
nummi(1432) Disputed
1 point

You do realize that we are the ones who fight the oppressors' wars and disputes and we are also the casualties, while they just sit back and watch and enjoy the spectacle?

One "country" means having one leader or one leading group or something like that. Who will they be fighting against? Themselves? How exactly will they do that if there is just one people they could use to fight another of their own group (assuming there isn't just one leader, if there was he'll have to start cutting himself, or herself)?

One government means an everlasting time of peace because there are no other governments in opposition. There might be some rebel groups, there will always be those, but that is all.

Side: GOOD IDEA
NuclearFish(182) Disputed
1 point

When governments cannot fight each other, they will fight their people.

Side: BAD IDEA

A one country system would not be a good idea since its leaders would often conflict themselves in order to get to the highest position. There is also a high possibility of a massive civil war if our leader is of nuisance.

Side: BAD IDEA