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Lets raise it! I'm SAAAAAaaaavage!
Debate Score:64
Arguments:59
Total Votes:70
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Our Low Minimum Wage is SAAAAAAAAaaaaaaavage!

Lets raise it!

Side Score: 24
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I'm SAAAAAaaaavage!

Side Score: 40
1 point

Maybe $9 or $10, but $7.25 is ridiculous... that's £4.71/hour- student's pay.

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1 point

Why do we need any minimum wage at all? All it does is harm business and workers who just want to get their foot in the door, their wages should be between the worker and the employer, the government shouldn't be involved.

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Nox0(1393) Disputed
2 points

Harms business? Do you think that business that cannot afford to pay $7/h should survive?

DO you realize that companies Like McDonald's or Amazon would pay like $4/h ?

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Elvira(3446) Clarified
1 point

So the government doesn't need to pay (as much) benefits to people, and because workers in a full time job should have a wage they can realistically live on.

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1 point

Hey prod. I missed you. ;)

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1 point

Wow, see I have a part time job once a week, and I get paid £7.50/hour for that..!

Yes godamnit raise it! It's no going to affect your God-fearing apple-pie eating commie-hating 'Murican way of life and cause Nazi's riding dinosaurs to rise from hell, just because you're paying those who need it, a little extra..!

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Give the hard workers a break. Raise the minimum wage to $15.00.

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Cuaroc(8822) Disputed
1 point

Give the hard working corporations a break. Lower the minimum wage to $5.00.

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The minimum wage should be raised inclusive of all set at $15.00 per hour.

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-1 points

I think we should add a few extra 0's on the end of 11, but this is a good start. Anyone who disagrees with the notion that raising the minimum wage causes everyone to get payed more and has no side effects is just SAAAAAAAaaaaaaaaavage!

Cheers ;)

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4 points

The set minimum wage now is to keep small business's afloat. If you work for a big corporation ask for a raise they can afford it.

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This will only bring about more unemployment.------------

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Sitara(11101) Clarified
1 point

How? .

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2 points

I have explained this many times, please refer to other similar debates.

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DevinSeay(1122) Disputed
1 point

Small businesses will collapse and bigger corporations will move out while fast food restaurants raise prices on their food along with grocery stores, gas stations, etc.

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Nox0(1393) Disputed
1 point

No, not really. It would kill only already half dead businesses. All large companies can afford it.

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1 point

Large companies would be worse than small business due to diseconomies of scale.

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Trolling101(3) Disputed
1 point

Wrong if we double everyone's wages we will be 2x as rich!

Side: Lets raise it!
1 point

Wrong, that will merely double the prices. Nothing will come about this doubling of wages.

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Warjin(1577) Disputed
1 point

And you know this because it's been done and proven how many time?

Side: Lets raise it!
2 points

Minimum wage really affects youth entering the labor force. Wall Street Journal

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2 points

the problem with raising the minimum wage to $11 an hour is two fold. First, some of the small companies that pay 7-8 dollars an hour will cut back on their work force to make up the difference in payroll. Then you will be asking employees to work much harder or faster to compensate for the lack of adequate help. Also, companies may also stop providing health care coverage to their employees. I am not just talking about the ones making minimum wage, but employees who are higher up the food chain to make up lost profit. It is inevitable.

Second, the price of products will go higher, causing inflation to rise. Those dollar menus at fast food places will now be two dollars instead of one. Gas prices will increase without a doubt, as gas station owners who pay 8 dollars an hour will all jack the price of gas up to recoup their extra payroll.

Once inflation starts to rise, the government will have to raise interest rates to bring down inflation, stalling economic growth.

Who will this hurt? Try the unemployed and people on social security, as their dollar goes far less. People on social security will see a rise in their monthly checks due to the annual cost of living adjustments. With the government paying out far more in benefits, they will have to raise taxes to make up the difference and cut spending programs like education and defense to prevent going into default like so many countries in Europe have done. Higher taxes and higher inflation will hurt the people who are above the 11.00 an hour right now with no benefits to that class of people.

Not a good idea to raise the minimum wage that high, economics 101.

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The minimum wage is usually too low to matter to most. When it's raised it benefits high school kids who don't need. It tends to hurt the people it claims to help.

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1 point

The worst action to take would be to raise it. If anything, we should be thinking about getting rid of it altogether.

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Trolling101(3) Disputed
1 point

Then the 99 percent will be poor and have 1 percent having everything if anything we should raise it....

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Troy8(2430) Disputed
1 point

No, let me give you a lesson on economics.

Raising the minimum wage would only hurt the people working at that wage. By raising the minimum wage, you are in effect increasing a price ceiling, which results in a surplus. That surplus is unemployment, resulting from decreased demand in unskilled labor due to higher prices.

Here, have a graph.

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The thing that nobody wants to acknowledge is that some forms of work simply aren't worth $11 an hour. Some forms of work simply aren't worth $7.50 an hour!

When the minimum wage increases, one of three things happens:

1) Prices for all goods and services that depend on minimum wage labor at ANY point on the chain go up.

2) The labor is outsourced to a region with lower or nonexistent minimum wage laws.

3) In spheres were labor cannot be outsourced, individuals are employed under the table, illegally.

Raising the minimum wage doesn't really help anyone; it results in more unemployment AND higher prices, negating the benefit that those earning minimum wage receive as well as putting a heavier burden on those who have invested the time, effort, and money to land a real job.

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1 point

Go ahead and raise.

Then try and find a job if you're elderly or need work experience.

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Well it would help increase inflation....

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1 point

A person should use those type of lower wage jobs as a temporary stepping stone. Live with a roommate or 2 for a couple years, go to community college, learn a trade, and you (and your roomates, presumably) are 'good to go' from that point onward--having earned a higher wage through (generally speaking) being a greater asset to society.

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