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Palestine / Israel Conflict

Currently the US and their allies protect and have an alliance with Israel. If Israel is not backed by these Western European nations the Jewish population in Israel could all be killed because the countries surrounding Israel are likely to attack if support is withdrawn. However, the constant impeding on Palestinian territory and the resulting refugee crisis is seen by even the UN as a violation of human rights.

Do you think we should continue to support Israel as they stand today or do you think we should require Israel to agree to a peace agreement with Palestine which will result in giving back some territory to the Palestinians? 

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Israel is connected to many rich and powerful figures both in the Media industry and the lawyer industry of USA, Canada and Europe so they have every reason to be on good relations with Israel.

It's about avoiding making the wrong enemies.

Tristin_WH(2) Disputed
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I understand with what you are saying but what about the enemies we would be making with the Palestinian's. The land that now belongs to Israel was once theirs. Wouldn't you

want back something that was rightfully yours but taken away from you... Yes there may be loses and I feel terrible for that but people survived the holocaust so why can't they just move somewhere away from the Palestinians and live peacefully there. I'm not saying we can't agree with Israel but maybe we shouldn't get involved in this war when it wasn't ours to begin with.

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Palestine is less powerful especially since the Iran deal, they are pacified.

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I think that we should just continue backing up Israel blindly because if they are such an important ally we do not want to risk their safety and if we put stipulation on Israel they might want to back out of being our ally and that could cause disasters we do not even want to think about. if we upset them we could just create ourselves enemies that we don't want or need

KMAWHq2(18) Clarified
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Hi this is Ms Hill, if this is one of my students please email me your name. I don't know who this is to give you points. Thank you

Julianna-H(2) Disputed
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While I see your side of the argument, and there are very real consequences in our intervention. I believe our support and Israel's need of our support can be used to help the condition of the Palestinians. I do not think we want an ally who treats other countries in this way. And I think we have a responsibility as a country in power to help push the need for peace between them.

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I think that we should stand with Israel and have a alliance. If not what will happen to the Jewish people, they would be treated like trash and kicked out because Israel was forced to peacefully give some of their land to the Palestinian. I say if we don't stand with Israel and don't even try at least then those lives would be in our hands and we would probably feel pretty guilty.

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I agree with what you said about the Jewish lives potentially being at risk. if we were to leave isreal and not support them then a lot of jewish people would die. I feel like we should back them up behind there back because it would keep them even safer.

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I think we should help Israel without anyone knowing. The reason for this is that its safer and them being safe is important to us. if we were to rebel it would cause problems that we don't need. and a lot of Jewish peoples lives would be on the line. We would be basically letting Jewish people die.

adrianb(2) Disputed
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eventually it will get out something someone does news spreads faster than a virus there is not hiding from this problem nor ignoring the problem what is done is done no going back or stepping done from it we just need to have a political stand with them till the problem is resolved

IsaiahSauced(2) Disputed
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It would nearly be impossible to help Israel without anyone knowing due to the fact that our country is runned by media and if a source found out then the US would be exploited and the whole world would know they are helping Israel.

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If we continue to support Israel as they stand today the Jewish citizens will stay alive. With our supporting Israel we are saving peoples lives,homes, and there culture. The United States support will show the countries around Israel that they are a good, and to support them just like the U.S. With the supported of the U.S Israel has less wars to battle because the U.S is backing them and they have many other countries backing the U.S.

Palestinian lost the war in 1947 to Israel and the people became stateless and refuges to the Arabs. They wanted there stated back and in 2000 Ariel Sharon took 1000 armed man to the Temple Mount of Old Jerusalem, creating a huge protest which killed 3,000 Palestinian and 1,000 Israels.Israel made sure that no Palestinian don't come into Israel. If Israel was require by us to make a peace agreement with Palestinian and give back there territory it would most likely just created another war.

i think that we should continue to support Israel.With the U.S having an alliance with Israel created the countries around them to not created a war and try to get Palestinians to gain there peace with Israel and get there territory back. Palestinians can't plan attacks on Israel forever and the war will end one day some how.

KMAWHq2(18) Clarified
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This is Ms Hill. Don't forget to rebuttal someone's argument

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Israel is related with extremely rich individuals in the Media Industry. These businesses are situated in the Usa, Canada, and Europe which ideally means they have their motivations to being in a great relation with Israel. We should keep on backing up Israel since we would prefer not to hazard well being since they are a critical partner.

KMAWHq2(18) Clarified
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Vanessa, You just reworded what Good listener said. No points for this.

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My belief is that we shall remain with the Israelians and have a collusion. If not what will happen to the Jewish individuals, they would be dealt with junk and kicked out in light of the fact that Israel was compelled to calmly give some of their property to the Palestinian. I say on the off chance, that we don't remain with Israel and don't attempt in any event then those who live will be the chance for the Usa and we would most likely feel entirely remorseful.

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I believe that we should continue supporting Israel, the U.S is not just protecting themselves but the Jewish citizens if we do not have an alliance with Israel the Jews would be wiped out completely and we would also become an enemy.

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The Palestinian people should be given equal land and rights something the US is ignoring to give the Palestinian people.The Palestinian and Israel land dispute dated to 1948 till today and Palestine is losing fight because they are on their own and barely fighting at the time there land was being taken.The Palestinian people were forced out of there land by gunpoint by Israel to small plots of land that remained part of Palestine and over 7 million people and counting have become refugees because so many have been removed from there large land into smaller places where not all of the Palestinians fit. Then later the US becomes allies with Israel protecting them from being killed by neighboring countries. The reason they became allies is because they saw Israel as a main influence against Soviet influence in the middle east. But now that the US is protecting Israel I think they should interfere with the Israel and Palestinian conflict because it is said in the fourth Geneva convention it states that all civilian persons must be protected in the time of war but the US seems it isn't important and the Palestinian's are constantly being ignored. While the US spends billions to protect Israel so why not get involved Israel needs the US as much as the US needs Israel there will no doubt that Israel will not break the alliance with the US. The Palestinian people are fed up with being pushed around and ignored. So many Palestinian people have formed a organization called Boycott Divestment Sanctions/BDS this organization's plan is to boycott trades,colleges,companies,etc to make it costly for Israel and cause international anger which it has. They are fighting for equal rights for all and or if they do not their goal will be to try to dismantle Israel from being a Jewish state. Currently their are trying to pass a peace solution called the one-state two-state conflict which is either divide the country between Palestine and Israel or drive what ever Palestinians remained out of their own home country if this conflict keeps going and if the US or Israel doesn't fix this and Israel refuses to comply other countries that are part of the UN will interfere and make matters worse for them but better for Palestine. The US should help no matter the problem,race,religion,gender,etc matter the Palestine's wrong doings they are being driven from there home and are closer to completely losing there own land they are human like everyone else and deserve basic human rights they shouldn't be treated like garbage being forced to stripped of there rights and removed from there own land by force if not will be shot. so the real question is should the US interfere with the Israel and Palestinian conflict or should they blinded ignore the conflict at hand and pretend that there aren't people being treated like trash and not like human beings

My source: Vox.com

Juan_Chagoya(2) Disputed
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The palestinians want to make jewish lives into a living nightmare

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The palestinians want to make jewish lives into a living nightmare

Whereas the Israelis actually are making Palestinian lives a living nightmare.

Hundreds of children shot dead at military checkpoints.

White phosphorus shells used to bombard civilian compounds.

Bulldozing people's homes.

Ignoring hundreds of UN resolutions.

Israel is like Nazi Germany on steroids.

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I probably won't say this right, but i have to do this for a school assignment. Both sides have had troubles, the Jews didn't have a land and pretty much just got out of persecution and the Palestinians got their land taken away. The Jews believe it's their land or whatever, and so they keep taking more and more even if it's illegal to do so. The Palestinians have done some bad things as well like using children and suicide bombers. Both of them do bad things and in politics there will always be shady people. I have to pick a side, but I have a hard time doing that. :/ (I spent 5 mins hovering over the submit button, I really didn't want to submit this.)

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I think we should be on Israel side. Because if israel give more power to the Palestinians, the palestinians are going to make the Isralian live poorly by either treating them really bad or kicking them out of the city and no leaving the jews with no homes. Also they will make jews live really bad they said that they will kill all jews, an article called aish.com showed some words of a palestinian he said "the criminals, the terrorists are the Jews, who have butchered our children, orphaned the, widowed our women and desecrated our holy places and sacred sites"(aish.com).Because some of the jews were terrorist and they would kill there families but i dont think that the jews that havent done anything just get killed just because of the terrorist, it is like if your older brother breaks a glass and your mom gets you and your brother into trouble even though you didnt do anything it is the same thing that is happening to the jews. The palestinians will also destroy the houses of the Israilians and they will conquer all of Israel back and make the lives of the people living there terrible because they will have more power and once they have that power they will make all of the Israelians life horrible, the palestianian people also said "we say to the jews and we say to Clinton and we say to all those who supported the jews and still cooperate with the jews, we say to them, that this will not shake us, we are the palestinian people, who are positioned in the land of the Isra and Mi'raj, it will not shake a single hair of ours, our determination will not swway (aish.com). The palestinians want to kill the jews because they think that jews are bad people.

If we back up palestinians than you will be putting lives in danger and make people live very horrible. This is why since Israel is more powerful right now they should just defend themself because palestine is going to try to keep attacking land back. Israel is a safety zone for jewish people and all the citizens living in there. Palestinians will treat the jew people like poorly or they will kick them out if the city because of the terrorist jews that attacked the palestinians.I also think that the terrorist did something really bad but they should punish them not the innocent jews. Nobody deserves that because those people have been living there for a long time and i am pretty sure that they dont have any where else to go so they will stay with out homes and live a terrible life, the article of aish.com has other palestinian people they said "From here, Allah and almighty has called upon us not to ally with the jews or the christians, not to like them, not to become theor partners, not to support them, and not to sign agreements with them.(aish.com)

Making a treaty to not do anything against eachother is an even worse idea. It is bad because if one id the sides breaks the treaty then it will just cost more problems. And if more problems are caused than it will be worse for all the citizens living there. It will be worse because the two sides are just going to want to keep going on war for breaking the treaty and it could even cause more deaths. More people will die and more people will live even worse because of the palestinians.

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Palestine has been treated unfairly by the Israeli government in many ways. The Israeli government has claimed much of the land that was given to them by the United Nations and forcing thousands of Palestinians out of their homes and into a small amount of remaining land they own.

They not only put this large amount of people into small areas, or out of the country entirely, but they also send and encourage guarded settlers into the areas that are supposed to belong to the people of Palestine. The people of Israel are also blocking off the people of Palestine from Jerusalem, which is meant to be an international area so that both religions may visit their holy city.

The people of Israel also have formed a blockade around the Palestinian area of Gaza and are leaving it to decay, the feelings of Palestinians are better stated by Vox "It is relatively new, but unbearable to the Palestinians."(Vox). The people of Israel have seemed to have given up on the continuation of peace, "In Israel itself, most people have become apathetic, and for the most part of the occupation keeps the conflict relatively removed from their daily lives, with moments of brief but horrible violence."(Vox), and the people of Palestine are feeling defeated or desperate, not knowing if any path will let them have their own land, "The Palestinians are left feeling like negotiating didn't work, violence didn't work, that they are stuck in an ever-growing occupation with no future as people."(Vox).

I think this problem could be solved if we intervene and use our stance as the superpower protecting Israel to have them re-distribute the land fairly with the Palestinians and to try and create understanding within the nation so that there will be lasting peace. We can also guard the country of Israel to keep the other countries from attacking at our intervention.

johnny169314(2) Disputed
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I think that if we make them re-distribute the land then the Palestinians will start to get greedy and are going to want more and more. if they re-distribute the land and the Palestinians start to become greedy the Israel people might not like it and that could cause more problems.

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I think we should keep helping Israel because not only are we obligated to help them if we didn't help them we would pull out from Israel and the neighboring countries would kill the Israel and murder them if they couldn't escape quick enough to get out of the country in time . The US and Israel have had mutual loyalty to each other and the US needs things from those oil rich countries(https://www.intelligencesquaredus.org/debates/us-should-step-back-its-special-relationship-israel).

The Israel states have shared military intelligence, cross fertilization,and mainly there oil.The Israel states have benefited economically,politically,and militarily because of the US providing support to there country. The Israel country are expanding there settlements into Palestinian territory.The US forces there have been preventing terrorist attacks(http://www.washingtoninstitute.org/policy-analysis/view/friends-with-benefits-why-the-u.s.-israeli-alliance-is-good-for-america).

The US has benefited because they get information like nuclear attacks or missiles,middle eastern politics, and terrorist information and attacks . They work with the US to develop military technology including cyber weapons,unmanned vehicles, and warfare weapons(http://www.washingtoninstitute.org/policy-analysis/view/asset-test-how-the-united-states-benefits-from-its-alliance-with-israel).

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I think that we should continue to support Israel because if we stop supporting them then a lot of lives will be at risk and can die. If any surrounding countries try and attack Israel then they would have problems with the U.S. and probably have problems with our allies as well and could cause even more problems than what are already going on. in 1967 there was a six day war with Israel and the combined Arab countries and seized territory the UN had had designated for the Palestinians. The Israeli people won the six day war fairly and they stayed with the land the losing team had a chance to take the land but they ended up losing the war. I don't think that the U.S. should make them give back some of the land because they went through a lot to stay with the land during the time of the war 750,000 Palestinians refugees fled to Arab states.

My source: little notes I had