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Yes, it is. No, it isn't.
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 Yes, it is. (4)
 
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Philosophy is dead.

Long live science!

Yes, it is.

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No, it isn't.

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Nietzsche, 1882- God is dead.

Nietzsche, 2008- Philosphy is dead.

647 days ago
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- Bradf0rd(1322) Disputed
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Ah, the ignorent American consumer/cattle has something to tell a philosopher...

"Get a Life"

What is that, some sort of slogan for a new weight-loss product? Ha, "Get a life". Who cares about real issues, right? Instead let's all go to Wal Mart and look for cool new stuffs and then eat some McDonalds and complain about NASCAR and how people are always so this and that... and let's go see Die Hard 4 in theaters, and let's talk on our cellphones about what we always talk over and over again to all of our myfavs and let's watch FOX news and the O'Reilly Factor, and listen to how our father "George W" is saving the world from all those "ignant" terrorist who just hate us because we are free...

Yeah, a philosopher would like you to think that he is boring.

645 days ago
- beevbo(294) Supported
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Hey, Die Hard 4 was rad! He fights a jet with a semi!

The rest is spot on though.

645 days ago
- jlindbe(8) Disputed
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Ah, Bradford, you seem to think you are the sole authority on both the subjects of philosophy and science. Such arrogance usually implies ignorance. And your ad hominem attack on the "Ignorant American" is rather childish and, once again, ignorant. I agree that philosophy is not dead, for only philosophy can claim it's own death, and therefore re-direct it's avenue of thought. As Bertrand Russell put it (in his Unpopular Essays), "contempt for philosophy, if developed to the point at which it becomes systematic, is itself a philosophy."

Science has indeed eclipsed philosophy in many realms. The modern scientific method had provided us with concrete answers to many of the classical philosophical postulates that were once unknowable in pre-technoligical societies. If you state that philosophy is alive in anyone that questions the unknowable metaphysical questions that all thinking people eventually ask themselves, then the practice of philosophy cannot die as long as there is intelligent life to ponder these things. Quite frankly, I find philosophy pleasurable as a form of mental masturbation, but its actual utility has been overshadowed by scientific pursuit of The Knowable. All else is speculation. A theory that cannot be tested is not a scientific theory. So lighten up, you take yourself a bit too seriously I think. Go and actually do something to help people in a concrete way instead of thinking of clever snipes for those who disagree with you. You may find it more fulfilling and lose some of your venom.

594 days ago
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Some scientific debate requires philosophical investigation. For example, the Anthropic Principle has been used by physicists in the last 50 years to support various cosmological models, notably bubble nucleation. It is becoming a heated debate whether or not such arguments are in any way valid, pursued through mathematics and philosophy together (which are essentially the same thing).

Other problems in philosophy come right out of mathematical logic. Certain problems in the most widely-used formulation of mathematics are undecidable, so what if we're pursuing a line of thought that needs to use that problem? What do we assume to make it true? Some mathematicians still get pissy about assuming the Axiom of Choice - what is "true" in our world?

And finally, there's still plenty of room for political, economic, and social philosophy. Not everything is metaphysical BS.

445 days ago | Tagged As: No, it isn't.
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If philosophy is greek for "love of knowledge" or "love of wisdom", then surely it cannot be dead.

Philosophy is at the very edge of every scientific front. It is the imagination that thinks "what if" in the face of the science's ever so solid factual certainty.

Without philosophy, there would be no mathematics capable of proving M theory, which is the new "Theory of everything" that we are struggling with today... the theory that Einstein was working on to find the one single concept that could explain everything in existence and even how something like the universe can come from seemingly nothing.

Philosophy is at the center of psychology, government, physics, blah blah blah... and without it, how would we get anywhere?

How do you think, without one's pure and untainted love of knowledge and discovery, they would be so driven to find the knowledge that we find so common place today?

No, my friends, philosophy is not dead, it's just that you rarely see a true philosopher that calls himself a philosopher before calling himself a scientist, or a mathematician, or an engineer, or a lawyer, or whatever else they specialize in...

645 days ago
- geoff(724) Disputed
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"It is the imagination that thinks "what if""

No, that's imagination and speculation. Philosophy has simply been replaced by science. Philosophy as a term can be dropped and we'd lose none of our intellectual vision.

645 days ago
- Bradf0rd(1322) Disputed
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You don't know a thing about philosophy do you? What about Science? Do you actually know anything about either?

First off, from Wikipedia, so that you can see it for yourself if you want:

"Contemporary philosophy (c. 1960 – present)

In the last hundred years, philosophy has increasingly become an activity practiced within the modern research university, and accordingly it has grown more specialized and more distinct from the natural sciences. Much of philosophy in this period concerns itself with explaining the relation between the theories of the natural sciences and the ideas of the humanities or common sense.

It is arguable that later modern philosophy ended with contemporary philosophy's shift of focus from 19th century philosophers to 20th century philosophers. Philosophers such as Heidegger, the later Wittgenstein, and Dewey, occupied philosophical discourses exemplified in thinkers such as Derrida, Quine, Kripke, and Rorty."

... Eh, you know, it's apparent you need to read more, so here's everything you need to do the work yourself.

Wikipedia to Philosophy (I recommend you look into every branch of philosophy)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philosophy

Wikipedia to Science (I recommend you look into every field of science too)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Science

You'll find that there is a lot of philosophy behind science, but not so much science behind philosophy because philosophy is more like the foundation of science.

645 days ago
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