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Population Control

Do countries have a right to control population growth? If so, by what means?  If you disagree, why? 
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6 points

yes, they should whenever or if the parents cannot financially support having a child or taking care of one. Anti-Natalism is anti child and that’s not the point. the government can’t control what comes or what child you have, but when it comes down to financial aid, they can control that.

Happyteacher(15) Disputed
2 points

Isn't the right to procreate an individual right, regardless of the impact on society?

2 points

Isn't the right to procreate an individual right, regardless of the impact on society?

I don't believe it is because the rights of the offspring override the rights of the parents. If for example, a parent decides to procreate in order to create a child he/she can later abuse, then the right of the child not to suffer that abuse overrides the parent's right to force the child to endure it. I also believe this stands true if the rights of the offspring are hypothetical (i.e. the child doesn't exist). If for example, two parents cannot give a child a stable and satisfactory upbringing, then why should they have the "right" to force an innocent to endure poverty, or drugs, or physical/sexual/emotional abuse?

3 points

I don’t think the government should have control over population growth. People have the right to make their own choices. The government should not have the right to tell people whether or not to have a baby.

1 point

I agree the government should not tell no person whether they can’t have a baby your taking away a freedom that people have and they should be able to determine if they do or don’t want a baby not the government. Anti-Natalist countries shouldn’t be so controlling over there population there taking away kids that could make a difference in the world.

3 points

Governments have the right to control birth rate as long as it’s reasonable and there are laws to ensure the safety of the children that are not wanted. I’m not anti-natalist, but I believe that if a government can’t support a country because of its rapid growth population, then they have the right to enforce laws that limit the birth rate until things are more stable. I think that limiting a birth rate per family to 1 child is wrong, but limiting it to fewer children is okay as long as it’s ethical.

Happyteacher(15) Disputed
1 point

What is reasonable? What type of data would be needed to determine this?

2 points

They do anyway, and they are going to do it by whatever means they can get away with.

Abadman314(1) Disputed
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The government can’t really tell you if you can have kids or not. That creates a unfair choice between having a boy or girl. If the population is falling and they give out incentives you should help out the country and have kids.

Happyteacher(15) Disputed
1 point

If the government has to deal with the affects, why shouldn't they have the right to limit population growth within their own country?

Happyteacher(15) Disputed
1 point

Please give an example of a country that has done this before.

S11_ja(1) Disputed
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They really should not have the right. There’s a reson everybody has rights & the government can’t just come in violating those rights they may be able to share their opinion but that’s it they don’t have the right to control others choices

Happyteacher(15) Disputed
1 point

But, what if your right to have as many children as you want infringes on the right of others to have a future?

JeremiahGRO(1) Disputed
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I feel like depending on the country and type of government they posses determines the level of control they can have over birth rates. Governments like in China have total control over what their civilians do and how they act. Governments like The United States’ would have a big issue trying to enforce laws on birth rates due to the amount of freedom we have had our entire lives.

1 point

The government shouldn't be able to tell if you if you can have a kid or not. This will create problems between what gender your child is and if you really want that child. The government should let you be the one that chooses.

2 points

I think the government should be able to control birth. Because there are more than 7 billion people and the birth rate is slowly increasing over time and soon we are going to run out of resources to provide for these children. Many different people agree like Thomas Malthus, and English clergyman born in the 18th century said that humans would reproduce faster than the earths capacity to feed them.

2 points

No, countries do not have a right to control population growth because they are removing their right as a human being and forcing them to chose between having kids or not . They should not obligate people to choose this way of living anti natalist . People should be happy when they have kids but the government making them choose ruins it .

2 points

I believe a country has the right to educate it's citizens on the current situation and advise a solution, but I disagree with complete control of the birth rate. Pro-natalist policies do a good job of this because no one is 100% forced to have children but steps are taken in order to persuade adults to have children. Anti-natalist policies in my opinion are too harsh and only create more problems.

2 points

Yes, they should control the population because if the country or continent is getting less birth than death they need to consider the future of the country or continent. I believe the government is doing the right thing by trying to get women to have children. They are trying to keep the country or continent from disappearing.

2 points

Yes, if it is reasonable and for the right reason. Like, if the population was decreasing then they may try to convince women to have children. But, not if they population is too high and they start saying that if hey have more then a certain number it is wrong they should just urge women not to have a lot for the good of the world.

2 points

the government should not have an input on wether or not women need to have kids. if they're not ready to be parents they're not ready! i'm sure children raised properly will benefit a country more financially.

2 points

No because a women’s body should not be taken advantage of. This belittles women and makes it seem like the only thing women can do is have children. It should be a choice that the women decides since it’s her that has to go through with it

1 point

No, because it's not the governments choice on how big the population should be and people have the right to make their own choices. I don't think the govenment should not have the power to control our population. You can have as many children as you want no one should have the ability to control that.

1 point

Countries don’t have the right to control population growth because they shouldn’t tell you how many kids you have. How many kids you want should be your decision and no one should be able to take that away from you but if you know you can’t provide for the kids based on your income you shouldn’t have them.

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Depending on the type of Government the country has determines their control on others. If they have a limited government they shouldn’t be able to control the birth of children. However, with an unlimited government they have unlimited power so they can control the population and the birth rate.

1 point

I believe that they should only be able to control population growth if it is before a female is trying to have a baby. If she is already pregnant, then they shouldn’t be able to control her current, in-born baby. I also believe that if you can’t afford a child or can’t sustain a healthy and responsible life for them, then you shouldn’t be able to

have a child, but if the mother is already pregnant then there is nothing the government can do.

1 point

No, but people should take into consideration what their country is wanting them to do. Governments don't have the right to control population growth because they are not in the same situation as many of their citizens. Citizens should strongly consider the government's suggestions, then decide for them whether to have children.

Happyteacher(15) Disputed
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What happens when the people don't take the government's suggestions?

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Yes I believe they do, if we have an overpopulation in the millions and we as a country and community we can provide for the children we are making, we should have to limit our selves on how much we can have, if we aren’t going to control our selves then the government has to step in and control for us, it’s not their fault that it’s has to happen it’s all on us not being able to see what’s happening and control our selves, if you believe that they shouldn’t be able to then we will eventually get to a point to where we aren’t going to have the food to feed our children. It’s the right thing for everyone for the government to step in and try to control some of us.

1 point

The government does not have the right to control population growth, it is the right of the people to decide if they want to have children or not. If people want to have children they will have children no matter if the government is enforcing a pro-natalist or an anti-analist government. It then falls into wondering what the government will do once a child is born.

1 point

I believe that you have to be able to financially provide for your children. If you cannot you shouldn't be allowed to have an a excessive amount. Children deserve a healthy and financially stable life to pursue there education and dream.

1 point

The gov can’t tell you if you should have kids or not because it’s not there life and they don’t control it unless your a kid but if your adult you need to run your own life because you free you feel me i feel the need that everyone can do what they want

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No the government does not have the right to control wheater people can give birth or not. If someone wants to have babies then they should be allowed to have babies and if they don't want to have any babies then they shouldn't have to have any. depending on what government you're apart, of they could either be pro-natalist or anti-natalist, but they still shouldn't be able to control if you should give birth or not.

Happyteacher(15) Disputed
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What are some of the affects of pronatalist or antinatalist policies?

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Governments need to stay out of bedrooms. Other than laws to make sure no one gets exploited (such as laws against pedophilia, sex slaves, etc) the government should not meddle with who breeds and whether or not they have kids.

Granted the world is badly overpopulated and it's just going to get worse. But meddling with the ability of people to have the families they want will just be a slap to humanity itself.

Chinaman(307) Disputed
1 point

Government needs to stay out of bathrooms Libtard. No government has told me whom i can and can't have sex with but government can tell us all about bathroom use.

1 point

i believe countries should control the birth rate/growth in their countries. however, i’m not anti-natalist because i don’t agree with the “one child” policy which prevented 400 million births. i just believe that countries should be able to control the birth rate to control with over population or under population etc.

Happyteacher(15) Disputed
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According to the data, pro-natalist policies are not working. What would you suggest?

1 point

In my opinion i think the government shouldn't control if u can have children or not. I think people have there own rights and freedom to have children if they want to. Anti natalist countries shouldn't be controlling over the population and by not having children you are decreasing the population.

1 point

In my opinion i think the government shouldn't control if u can have children or not. I think people have there own rights and freedom to have children if they want to. Anti natalist countries shouldn't be controlling over the population and by not having children you are decreasing the population.

Happyteacher(15) Disputed
1 point

How would you address the issue of overpopulation? Education? Career opportunities?

1 point

Yes ,countries should be able to control the population growth within their countries. For example we see China as a Anti Natalist contry because of how the government has created the one child rule. Which has help decreased the population growth in that country.Letting the government control the population growth is a good thing , if you think about it, if us human don’t control population growth soon our earth has limited space and as wells as limited resources, at one point our home, our earth will become over populated soon if we don’t control the population growth. And well soon run out of earths natural resources.

Happyteacher(15) Disputed
1 point

Do you find it problematic that a government entity will be regulating or defining what life is?

1 point

I am in favor of pro-Natalia because by the government limilting the amount of children that can be born to each family. Has unitened consequences that can affect people outside the country. For example, the one child policy in child led to men being dominate over women , so this caused female human trafficking. Since men were being women from out of the country into China to be there brides .

Happyteacher(15) Disputed
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Since current pro-natalist policies are failing, what would you propose?

Happyteacher(15) Disputed
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Since current pro-natalist policies are failing, what would you propose?

1 point

Some country's need kids due to people not wanting to have any and their population is falling due to less birth rates. Countries need to have some ways or policy's is place so they don't fall under their carrying capacity's and become underpopulated. For example, some people who are poor should receive some funding from the government so that they can have kids or run advertising to promote having kids and to say to women that it's ok to have kids cause it helps the country strive and populates the country.

1 point

No, The government shouldn't be able to control the population because in my opinion it's inhumane. The government shouldn't control weather you have a child or not because it shouldn't be their choice, it should be the choice of the parents, so I believe that pro-Natalist policies should be put in effect instead of Anti-natalist policies. For example how would you feel as a parent if your wife (or yourself) can't have a child or are limited to a less number than you anticipated. Wouldn't that make you feel terrible? That is why I believe that Pro-Natalia policies are the way to go

1 point

Yes, they should if the parents physically or mentally cannot take care of the child. But I'm not an Anti-Natalist because I don't beileve in the "One child policy", I get that they were only trying to help with over populating, but it created even more problems. Like human trafficking, uneven amount of boys and girls, and more kids without families (orphans).

1 point

i believe the government has the right to control population because the world currently holds seven billion people and it's not expanding. if a country is overpopulated it may take a long time to get back into a stable population. also children are very expensive and people tend to underestimate that and continue to have children even when they are not ready.

1 point

The government should interfere with the population count but with limitations. No can tell a woman to deliver and raise a child because there’s a line between that and the government, but for mothers that are physically unable to have a child of their own, they could adopt a child from mothers and fathers that are unfit to raise one like abusive parents. This will balance the population by giving mothers a child that other ones can’t properly raise so they don’t have to go long ways to find a child when there are always some available.

1 point

I think the goverentment should not be able to say if you can or can not have kids because it will decrease the population. It can also determine the more girls or more boys there will be. It will make the next generation have less people so less people to work on things and creat new things

1 point

countries should need valid reasoning to limit the amount of kids adults can have. neonadiling has an effect of the future of the country jobs needs and housing. Germany and other places need valid data to limit the kids with valid reasons or if they need to have it.

1 point

I believe in countries where it is becoming too over populated they should put a tax on children to discourage having more but in countries where it is not over populated they should be pro-natalist and it should not be a law nor tax

1 point

i think they don't have a right to try and control the population and that countries should be pro-natalist. It is a natural thing for increase in population and growth, so why try to slow it down? There will be more people in the country but what will happen when things go wrong and suddenly the country is underpopulated? There would be less natural resources, but rather than controlling the population, you should focus on preserving the limited resources and set rules on how people can use them.

1 point

I don’t think the government should control birth. I am pro- natalist. I believe we should explore to mars to expand our population.

1 point

I believe the government has the right to control population growth based on what's going on in their country. If they are having rapid falling birth rates then the countries should have a pro natalist policies. The pro natalist policies can try to make the countries birth rate rise which will help the population growth problem.

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I do think that countries have the right to control population growth, but I don’t think they should limit the amount of children you can have, or try to get you to have a child. If an ant-natalist country is trying to limit the amount of child births, instead of limiting the number of children born to a house hold, they should maybe try to get the parents to really think about if they want children, especially in the urban regions. For Pro-natalist countries trying to get more child births, they should try to get people from counties who don’t want lots of births to come to their countries. That way people who want lots of children can have them, and countries who need a bigger population can have them.

1 point

i think it can go halfway because reproduction is a natural thing and people should decide how many kids they should have. but also if the country knows that if the reproduction rate is slowing down or speeding up then they should help the country but not to a great extent. it can go both ways because there are pros and cons for both

1 point

Yes, governments should be allowed to control population. They can do this through pro or anti natalist policies. However, the government must first identify the effects of these policies and address them or else problems could be created throughout the population.

1 point

I believe that countries should be able to control the population. I think that if there are too many people in an area, anti-natalist countries should be able to control that. They should be able to control THEIR country by bribing them to stop having kids so they can reduce the population.

1 point

I don't believe governments should have the right to control population growth, because their policies will have unwanted consequences. People should be able to decide if they want children or not based on their economic and social availability for their child.

1 point

Governments do have the right to control population, but to an extinct. You let people come in, as citizens, they have the right to reproduce. If you want an increase in population growth then go ahead, and try to bribe the females, but if you want a decrease in population growth, you have to be very careful in how you do it. The government shouldn't be allowed to put a limit on the amount of children the citizens can have because this will create many untended consequences, such as too much of a certain gender. These are called "anti-Natalist policies." The governments should have some control over their country, but not to the point where innocent children are dying.

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I think anti-natalist countries like China have a say in the population control.Sure the way that China is handling it is wrong and their own beliefs are contradicting the natural order of genders but maybe if they were a bit more lenient in their beliefs and value woman as much men then there would be no problem

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i don't believe that it's right for countries to be able to control people having children. if they can support themselves then let them. even if they can't it's their life. I consider myself a Pro Natalist because it's people's decisions not the countries.

1 point

I think people should be able to make their own choice if they are wanting to have a child and add more to their family. Countries that want to be pro-natalist should be able to make up their own decisions with children and populations.

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I believe that countries should be able to control their population and decide how many kids you have. Any country should be Anti-natalist because if they don’t control the population then it can become overcrowded and the resources will be used up faster. It can become very dangerous with too many people in the country.

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Yes i support the anti-natalists and i think that the government has the right to control population growth if it helps the economy thrive in an area

1 point

No I don’t think the government has the right The rule an anti natalist society because it shouldn’t be the governments choice to decide how many children a person / family can have I think people should be able to have as many children as they like as long as they can financially support it

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I think the U.S. should be able to control the birth rate because if the population keeps on increasing, resources are going to be scarce and there won’t be enough jobs. We need to enforce Anti- Natalism so other people can see my idea also. The United States should start putting taxes on families with more than 3 children and taxes on immigration. Girls should not be forced to have babies by there families if they don’t want too.

1 point

I am Pro-Natalist because I like having kids and the government should want kids to expand the population and the growth rate.but however the death rate will depend on where they live and the enviorment.

Happyteacher(15) Disputed
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What happens when natural resources are limited? What responsibility does the government have to ensure the survival of its people?

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I think we should be able to control birth rate.It also has consequences like what we saw about China but if we don’t control the birth rate we can also run out of resources. Resources are running out slowly and if we continue growing the population we will not have the resources to give to the rapid growing population

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I don’t think countries have the right to control the population growth. People should have the right to decide how many kids they can have, but with the anti-natalist policy’s get to decide how many kids you have.

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I don't think it's right to be a anti natalist government. I don't believe it is right becasue that causes the death or more unborn children, if parent specifically want a boy they will only have a boy and kill as many girls as it takes to get the boy they want. The government shouldn't decide how shoreline wants to live their lives aand run their family. If the government feels as if they are too overpopulated they can do stuff to adjust instead of limiting the amount of children that a couple can have.

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Yes because if a certain country has over population than after a certain amount of time, they will have to decrease the population by forcing people out of the country and those people would have to start from scratch in a new location.

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China is dumb for being anti cause then when I comes time for the guys to find the right women it’s harder for them to cause there’s not a lot of women for it and they cant. Then when they have kids they need to support them and they can’t

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No I don’t think it’s right because it’s cruel to do so

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I believe there should be population contro BUT this would only work out I a couple countries where the male superiority isn’t a big deal.

1 point

Yes, because they might not be financially stable to support there child. I'm not with anti natalist but they should have control of how many kids they have if they cannot support them. Pro natalists is what I support but it's just not smart if they can't be stable and safe.

1 point

Yes, I believe that they should have control over the population of their country

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no, they shouldn’t have control over the population growth. it’s their lives not theirs. they should let people have as many kids as they want and make their own mistakes to learn from.

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Yes because if they didn’t they wouldn’t be able to feed people and they would die

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Yes, but they should have control of who/when people have the child(ren), meaning that they should put laws on how financially stable you are before having a child, not putting laws on the number of children people can have but rather who can have them. If someone who wants a child and is not financially stable, they need to find a way to become financially stable before being allowed to start a family

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Countries do have the power to control population growth wether they are pro-natalist or anti-natalist. As long as it benefits the country and future of the human race. The earth can only sustain a certain number of humans. If we haven't reached that number we will soon.

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Yes, because countries can become overpopulated resulting in a large food shortage or countries can become underpopulated which can result in less people for jobs.

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No I don’t think they do because you can’t control what type of gender you have that’s not something you can control. Also you can’t control if you have more then one child at once. I don’t think it’s fair for one kid to have a great life but the next kid has a horrible life because he’s/she’s the second child so no it’s not right for countries to control population growth

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Yes, pro-natilist are trying to help their country survive. If not enough baby are born, the country population could slowly go down to zero. In the other hand, Anti- natilist are also trying to lower their country's population so they are not overpopulated.

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Yes, because if a country’s birthrate is growing to rapidly and they are running out of of resources then births need to be controlled to keep them from running out.

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A simple solution could just be that since pro-natalists want more children to be produced, while anti-natalists are against having a certian amount of children, any excess children in anti-natalist countries could become citizens of a pri-natale country.

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No!!! I don't think it's right for a country to choose what gender or how many kids you have. This may come across as a problem to many family that want to expand there family. Also bribing woman most likely won't make them want to have children. People should have a decision on if they have children or not.

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No, because eventually we won't have the next Generation if you control the population growth. Also if a couple wants children then they should have the right to have them. The only way I think they could control the population growth is if there is Financial issues.

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I am for having kids if you are financially able to.The government should not be able to determine if you have kids,or determine what gender is better to keep.No one should be bribed to have a kid if they aren't ready.If people limited the amount of kids and gender people could have it would lead to problems,and eventually you will need more than one gender.

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Yes, countries have the right to control the population. There is could be an overpopulation problem and government can tell the citizens to stop. Parents with the finacial support should really only be the people that can have a family. Overpopulation has became a more of a problem because poor families can’t support a child.

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Yes. Because in the end, it always sacrifice for the greater good, so if a country were to overpopulate, then it’s up to the government to do whatever it takes to keep the country afloat.

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No. I think that countries do not have the right to control population growth because it's everyone's individual and personal choice. I think if you the resources to support life you can I don't think it is a smart decision to bring a child into life if you don't have the resources to support them. And it's definitely not the governments job to get involved in personal decision.

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I believe that countries do not have the right to control how many children women can have. For that reason, I am pro-naturalist. If the family can support the children, then they have the right to have as many children they can handle.

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Yes I do believe that governments have a right to control populations. If the country were to continue increasing rapidly, the country would not be able to sustain itself in resources, education, etc. If the country were too under populated, then the country would become unbalanced and the population could eventually die out. Although a government controlled population can come with limiting factors, it is necessary for this to happen in order to have a sustainable country.

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Although the world is growing with more people, it doesn't mean that removing humans rights is justifiable. I don't think controlling the population is right for the government. Governments shouldn't be able to remove our rights and control us. The government should be for us and not only themselves. All humans deserve the same right and should be able to keep that right as the government promises it to us when we're born. Us being alive is a right, and that right makes all of our rights be there. And even if the government controls the population, another problem will occur if it's not happening now.

My position on population control is the same as my position on abortion, if you can avoid it then it's always the unfavorable option but sometimes it's just plain necessary. That being said, is population control necessary? And by what means should it be carried out? Well, I say it's very necessary, and the most ethical way to carry it out is by forced sterilization and eugenic breeding programs and extermination. Just kidding, in reality I don't think it's even necessary, because most of our problems with pollution and scarcity come from how society is structured under the wasteful profit based consumerist sociopolitical and economic screwjob model where people fight over resources, exploit other countries and value profit and political power over other people and living things and the environment.

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We can either keep breeding like rats and poison the planet and all die together or we can initiate a system of population control.

People having more than 2 or three children are killing us all.

This planet can accommodate a finite number of humans before it's ability to sustain us is wrecked.

There's no reason to be hopeful because the reality is that we're as helpless to stop overpopulating as rats are and nothing substantial is going to be done in time.

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I disagree because people should have the right if they want a baby or not, no one should be forced to do something they don’t want to do.Some People don’t have time to to take care of a child or they don’t have the finances to do so. Some people want to be independent and live their life the way they want to and be a strong independent person.

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In my opinion Population Control has yet to be fully successful without any faults or errors, but we can find ways to make it work.Near the first week of school, Mrs.Torrez mention that we need more creative people to find a different point of view to solve problems in a different point of view. Well, that also applies here, the Population Control policies we had discussed in the class had tons of room for improvement, and we need people to help us fix it. In the One Child Policy, the Female-Male ratio in China were outrageous due to the fact that they were killing off mainly Females and that caused a shift in the balance of Gender, but what if we found a way to fix that. We could allow education to be accessed easier, allow women equal rights as men, create a system that allows people to get decent paying jobs, many of these components could help out with overpopulation. But of course this is just in thought, any outcome could come out of this, plus some people are stubborn and lazy, some choose not to have education and any other factors could ruin this plan. That's why we need people to fully show different ways to make population control a good choice.

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I believe that people should be able to have as many kids as they like and that the government shouldn't control that. The more kids there are in the population is better for our future.

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Yes. Because having children is not cool. really really really