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President Bush: Good or Bad?

Was President bush a good president? Why or why not?

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Although I highly disagree with all of his mindless foreign policy that being the Iraq and Afghanistan Wars and he increased the federal government more than any other president or congress while cutting taxes and consequently, a bigger debt, President Bush was good for some things. Not entirely sure what that good is but compared with Obama, it is much more.

Side: Good

Even though I'm from San Francisco, I'm a Republican and think Bush was a good president.

Bush had the right idea with the Iraq invasion- he prevented an economic meltdown. The fundamentals of our economy is oil and where does oil come from? The Middle East including Iraq. everything we own or do is a bi-product of oil. Even green technology. The items we associate as green come from factories that run on electricity and where does most electricity come from coal or oil.

In the 1990's Saddam invaded and tried to take over Kuwait- an oil wealthy nation that was/is friendly to the US. We knew that Saddam would then cut off our oil supply from Kuwait which would then effect our gas prices and our economy.

In 2001 9/11 happened and Bush lied and said Saddam was behind it because that was the only way he would get the majority vote for declaration of war. Saddam again threatened to cut off our oil supply and we told him to step down or face a military strike. He refused and we took him down and set up a US friendly government that would continue to supply oil.

Some may ask why not just use a new alternative energy? The answer is look at how long it took to build up the oil industry to where it is now and money. Green tech is expensive.

Bush knew that oil is running out and in the not-so-distant future there will probably be an even bigger war over the last wells of oil. We built three of the biggest military bases in the Middle East and we built them to last so even if all our troops come home we have a foundation for a strong defensive position when the the time comes.

Bush also took the first major step in fighting terrorism- he chose to destroy terrorism at its roots.

Remember that "what is popular is not always right and what is right is not always popular."

It seems to me that people are blinded by the fact that he told a lie. What can you expect he's a politician all politicians lie and he lied for the good of the country.

Side: Good

Honestly, Bush was the target of the biggest propaganda war in history. Most of the criticisms of him are mindlessly repeated talking points. Like any politician, he did good and bad things. My biggest criticism of him is his massive, uncontrolled spending, but he also took a strong stance on terrorism which prevented further attacks on American soil for several years. The Bush tax cuts that everyone criticizes also corresponded to the highest tax revenue we've had in some time. 10% of 100 is much higher than 40% of 20. The economy was very good, something some attributed to the tax cuts, though things like that are impossible to prove. However you feel about the Iraq war, Iraq is in a much better and freer place than it was before we came, which, for them anyway, is good.

Anyway, my point is he is certainly not the best president we've ever had

Side: Good
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I, as a Republican and a Texan, support what Bush did in his time in office although I know many do not. I think the gripe most people have about him is that people voted for him thinking a republican president would help with U.S. debt, but instead he turned around and spent hundreds of billions of dollars on the war effort. Normally, I wouldn't like this either, but I've come to the conclusion that the pentagon knows things citizens don't and they would never authorize hundreds of billions of dollars on a wild goose chase. There must have been some validity to it.

Side: Good
Conro(767) Disputed
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That is pretty much the opposite of Republicanism. Republicans believe in limited government, little government power, and have a fundamental distrust in the government. And yet you trust him presumably because he is Republican, not because "the Pentagon knows things we don't". If it is in fact because "the Pentagon knows things we don't", you must be in favor that everything our government does because it knows things that we don't.

Side: Bad
Republican2(350) Disputed
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Republicans also often believe in a strong military power to intervene in international affairs when it is in the United States' best interest. Especially ones who fall on the authoritarian end of the political spectrum.

Side: Good
2 points

No. No, no, no, no, and no. Iraq, Afganistan, Al-Quaeda. The only 3 reasons Bush sucked.

Side: Bad
trumpeter93(999) Disputed
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Going to the middle east was one of his best decisions. you are blinded by the fact that he told a little lie to go there, but he's a politician and all politicians lie.

Side: Good
Conro(767) Disputed
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Right, it was just a "little lie". It was a "little lie" that sunk the U.S. even further into debt. It was a "little lie" that we went to Iraq, overthrew their government, made ourselves overseers, installed ourselves militarily there, spent eight+ years of military activity their, poured trillions of dollars into the Middle East, and killed hundreds of thousands of soldiers, insurgents, and innocents. It was a "little lie" that made the rest of the Western nations lose faith in U.S. leadership.

Because a politician lies, doesn't that mean we should not trust him or her with our money, interest, or troops? It seems to me when a leader cannot act responsibly, or does not act with the consent of the governed, that it is our right to displace said leader.

Additionally, you never provided any justifications for how it was "one of his best decisions". Please do so or your argument is invalid.

Side: Bad
2 points

He weakend education with no child left behind, he chose to use the clinton administraitions surplus for tax cuts instead of social security reform and he started a war that has cost thousands of lives and billions of dollars. He has made america look like an imperialistic power instead of a champion of liberty that it needs to be.

Side: Bad

Had to post on this side. Anyone posting on the other side clearly has issues, mental comes to mind. Single handedly brought down a nation, then again I don't know of anyone else that could have done that.

Side: Bad
1 point

i do not like him and he was a bad president, but he is not as bad as he is made out to be. obama is blaming this economic shit storm on him but it was actually caused by the de regulation of derivatives in 99 (Clinton ) era....... IRAQ was a shit storm and he fucked up. no child left behind was not great but it was atleast it put a light on the poor education system we have. he was a bad president. Hitler as sum of these fucking Berkley idiots call him. no

Side: Bad
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president bubsh i think was bad but no complently bad i mean he did a good jo in 9/11 and i think the NCLB education act was meant to be a good thing it juts didin't turn out the way people would have hoped plus the media always makes things worse then they are

Side: Bad

He caused the economic recession and got this country involved in two wars.

Side: Bad