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Debate Score:28
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Total Votes:31
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President Trumph's Travel Ban- Solution or Hinderance

JUST DO IT!!!

Side Score: 19
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F*** No !!!

Side Score: 9
4 points

Necessary measure to protect American citizens from more Islamic terrorists attacks. The temporary halt, is needed to prevent more terrorists from coming here and killing more Americans, while while we strengthen our visa and immigration screening process. Messy, yes. Inconvenient, yes. Unusual, yes. If just one innocent American is prevented from being blown up, or hacked to death, the measure is justified.

Side: JUST DO IT!!!
3 points

Every batch of Muslim immigrants will contain a % of dedicated terrorists with a further additional % who will be radicalized and become terrorists.

None of the original immigrants who settled here were from countries hostile the United States which they regarded as their new home and a place where they could prosper, which they did and in the process added positively to America's greatness..

Through their hard work and skills they helped to make America a great nation to which they were all proud to belong.

The idea of willfully causing death and destruction to their host nation which welcomed them and offered them freedom of religious and political expression was never considered.

Not so the Muslims.

One of the Muslim terrorists involved in the slaughter of 130 young clubbers in Paris had been accepted into France at the age of 5 years old.

The multiple Muslim terrorist attacks in Germany in 2016 saw 12 dead with hundreds injured were carried out by a number of asylum seekers who had recently availed of Angela Merkel's open door policy.

The Muslim terrorist attack on Boston where three people were killed and 264 people with serious injuries including those who needed leg amputations.

The fools and filth bellow out their standard sanctimonious drivel about ''all Muslims are not terrorists''.

Everyone, including the dogs in the street know that, but it only takes one Muslim terrorist to cause death on an industrial scale.

It was a lone Muslim terrorist who drove a truck into the family vacationers on the Promenade des Anglais in Nice France where 183 innocent men, women and children were massacred.

Did the atrocity of San Bernardino where 12 U.S. citizens were shot dead, not learned anything?

the 'bleeding hearts'

Any politician who promotes and permits the intake of Muslim immigrants, of any age should be tried for willful criminal negligence, if not treason.

Side: JUST DO IT!!!
1 point

"It's wrong to ban Muslims", "Why those countries and not Saudi Arabia?"

You are correct, that would be wrong to do. The goal however is to temporarily stop immigration from just 7 specific countries listed by the State department as either sponsors or safe havens of terrorists. Muslims from other countries are free to follow our immigration laws and enter.

"Terrorists can find other ways to enter", "This won't stop them"

You are correct. This is not the perfect solution, but doing nothing would be a far worse solution. I see this quite often on the liberal side: "since it won't necessarily work 100% why try at all?"

"This ban leaves many trying to flee there country without a place to go"

I don't care. Until we have a process that can better vet those entering the country, I will not support accepting refugees at the cost of putting my family at greater risk.

"Rather than a ban, why not just improve security?"

That's the point of this ban!

Side: JUST DO IT!!!
Narwhal(56) Disputed
1 point

Wait a second, are you claiming we are currently "doing nothing"? That if we do not employ this current ban, then we have zero safeguards in place?

Because if you did not mean to imply that, you might want to rethink the way you presented your argument.

Side: F*** No !!!
sylynn(626) Disputed
1 point

No, I am claiming what we have been doing up to this point has not been working, and continuing with the status quo is irresponsible.

Side: JUST DO IT!!!
1 point

ISIL LOVED IT! It added to the hatred of those on the border ...( NOT THAT BORDER !), those who were close to hating America! Iran asked their people NOT to burn our flag during yesterdays celebration where they do it YEARLY! Thank the anti-Trump demonstrators for THAT!

Now we hear that Trump the bump grabber may be naming Sarah Palin "Ambassador" to Canada! Another great ally down the drain!

Side: F*** No !!!
outlaw60(15368) Disputed
1 point

"ISIL LOVED IT! It added to the hatred of those on the border" AL of Road Island you are the Infidel and you should learn that and by the way Iran is not place you would want to visit on a vacation !

Side: JUST DO IT!!!
AlofRI(3294) Clarified
1 point

Finally, you said something I can agree with. I would NOT vacation in Iran. (But I don't feel I have to carry a gun to vacation in America. But, another year of Trump and a runaway NRA, I might have to ... to protect myself from radical (conservative) Americans. Liberal Americans own a LOT of guns. Somehow they don't worry me.

Side: JUST DO IT!!!
outlaw60(15368) Disputed
1 point

The Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant:

It takes a special kind of terrorist organization to force the world’s most powerful and professional military into action halfway around the globe. The Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (ISIL, ISIS or simply the Islamic State) is exactly this type of organization: strong enough to rout several divisions of a national army, and rich enough to sustain their operations at an impressive pace.

Estimated by the Central Intelligence Agency to have a size of 31,000 fighters, ISIL has single-handedly swept across an area of the Middle East roughly the size of Belgium. The swift and easy capture of Iraq’s second-largest city, Mosul, by several thousand ISIL fighters in June 2014 had the effect of not only embarrassing the Iraqi government in the eyes of its people, but revealing how poorly led and pathetic the Iraqi security forces had become.

Side: JUST DO IT!!!
1 point

First, I would like to state that everyone should be treated equally regardless what religion,culture,ethnicity or races. This is the fundamental right that everyone should has. The travel ban that imposed by president Trump will just causing more disunity and chaos among the American. President Trump had ban 5 Islamic countries citizens which is Iran, Iraq, Libya, Somalia, Sudan, Syria and Yemen.President Trumph publicly condone the Muslim group as terrorist which is significantly very wrong. We shouldn't stereotyping Muslim as terrorist just merely based on the act of ISIS. We should know that ISIS is not believing the correct teaching of Islam. ISIS was astray from the true teaching of Islam. In Myanmar,it is a country that practice BUddhism, but why their authority still treating cruelly to the mminority group of Rohingya ? We should not stereotype Muslim as Terrorist, as in fact, ISIS is terrorist. Every religion emphasise on peace,Islam is not excluded too.

Secondly,Trump's travel Ban brought troublesome and worry to family members from Iran, Iraq, Libya, Somalia, Sudan, Syria and Yemen that wanted to visit their love ones. Just for example, weeks ago, An Iranian parents could not visit and accompany their baby that undergone a surgery. This is so heart breaking for parents who cannot accompany their love ones , when their love ones was in difficulties or risk of life. Just imagine, let's say if we are Iranian, and one of our family members is in the risk of death,somehow we cannot meet him or her,is this fair for us? we are the family members of love ones but we cannot visit them when they are in midst of hardship. This is so cruel to everyone.

Side: F*** No !!!
1 point

This ban leaves many trying to flee there country without a place to go. Also if your going to assume that there is a high possibility for them to be terrorists they could just go to a different country and come to the u.s from there.

Side: F*** No !!!
0 points

America is a country made up of immigrants. If Trumph says American First- it actually means that the indegineous people a.k.a Indians should come first. Get ur history right morons

Also tourism is a big industry and it cannot be forsaken or reduced just because of some terrorists. If you want to keep them out just improve your security

Side: F*** No !!!
daver(1771) Disputed
3 points

America is a country made up of immigrants.

Correct, immigrants, not terrorists.

If Trump says American First- it actually means that the indegineous people a.k.a Indians should come first. Get ur history right morons.

It's "America first", not "first Americans". Trump is referring to ALL American citizens. You are miss understanding the message, or intentionally distorting it.

Also tourism is a big industry and it cannot be forsaken or reduced just because of some terrorists. If you want to keep them out just improve your security

Iraq, Syria, Iran, Sudan, Libya, Somalia and Yemen, are NOT sources of significant tourism, but rather terrorism. Keeping them out while we improve our security, is exactly what we're doing.

Side: JUST DO IT!!!
NicolasCage(505) Disputed
1 point

Correct, immigrants, not terrorists.

Are you implying that every single citizen of these 7 countries is a terrorist? That's laughable.

Iraq, Syria, Iran, Sudan, Libya, Somalia and Yemen, are NOT sources of significant tourism, but rather terrorism. Keeping them out while we improve our security, is exactly what we're doing.

No, they are not significant sources of terrorism. Not a single terrorist in the last 17 years has come from any of those countries. More homegrown terrorists have killed people on US soil than terrorists from all 7 of those countries combined.

Side: F*** No !!!
outlaw60(15368) Disputed
1 point

"Also tourism is a big industry and it cannot be forsaken or reduced just because of some terrorists" "If you want to keep them out just improve your security"

Security is improved with a Travel Ban and you agreed to that ! Tourism is not at stake it's the security of a country and you agreed with the Travel Ban !

Side: JUST DO IT!!!