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Debate Score:91
Arguments:88
Total Votes:103
Ended:08/08/18
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Prove God does NOT exist!

If God does NOT exist, prove it. I said prove it not hypothesis and theories, anyone can say anything but can you prove!

Yes.

Side Score: 56
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No.

Side Score: 35
3 points

Really? Again with this? I'm getting damn tired of this argument. I don't need to prove god doesn't exist. You are making the claim of existence, you need to provide proof, for the same reason that you don't need to prove Zeus, Thor, Baal, and Santa Clause aren't real.

What the hell am I doing wasting my time here. If you gave a shit about logical arguments you wouldn't be asking this question.

Side: Yes.
1 point

First, define God.

Side: Yes.
outlaw60(12916) Disputed
1 point

Oh No you Idiot are you going to say to the Muslims that Mohammad does not exist ?

Side: No.
Jace(4672) Disputed
1 point

Not exactly the direction I was headed, but sure why not. I'm equal opportunity offender.

Side: Yes.
CucumberHole(46) Disputed
0 points

Atheists are experts on how to avoid answering questions. In every other debate, they assume it's the God of Abraham. In this one, you magically don't know which god. Naaa. You just have no answer.

Side: No.
Jace(4672) Disputed
3 points

I'm not being evasive. "God" is an ambiguous signifier, and is routinely used to reference different concepts - Abrahamic, Spinozistic, etc.

A responsive answer requires understanding the question, so I'm clarifying rather than presuming.

You critique atheists for being presumptive, but clearly object to my not presuming. Ironically,, you're the one avoiding the question.

Side: Yes.
1 point

1: Even if God is real, all religions are still wrong. They are full of signs of human psychology and imperfection, they are all localized and often specifically relate to certain groups of people.

2: Even if God is real, he is not "God" objectively, because the word god doesn't describe what something is it describes it's relationship with other life forms. It's a title, like "general" or "lord". A god is something you worship, that doesn't tell you what it really is. Maybe it's an alien, maybe it created the universe in a quantum computer of sorts and it's actually a scientist that wants you to think it's God.

3: There is no need for a god to create us. pointing to the complexity or order of nature is irrelevant because if humans and everything else need a creator then why can God just exist out of the aether when he is even more complex than what he created?

4: God's existence would be highly illogical and if there is a "God" then you can bet your bottom ass cheek that we are in a simulation and it's not "God" at all. In a natural universe, I think it's safe to say that a random super intelligence doesn't manifest out of nothing and create it deliberately.

Side: Yes.
CucumberHole(46) Disputed
1 point

even if God is real, all religions are still wrong. They are full of signs of human psychology and imperfection

First, show us the imperfection. Secondly, define imperfection. Third, if you can do that, what if God sees imperfection asperfection?

Side: No.
CucumberHole(46) Disputed
-1 points

Well that didn't make a lick of damn sense. No wonder you're sn Atheist. You don't even know what the hell you're talking about.

Side: No.
1 point

Before we can even begin which god are you referring to as there are quiet a few ?

Side: Yes.
CucumberHole(46) Disputed
1 point

5.5 billion people believe in the God of Abraham (as was predicted), and Hinduism is quickly being replaced in India. Budhism is nontheistic.

Secondly, the Bible talks about other gods a lot, and most of those "gods" have vanished into the pages of history, so your logic is flawed.

Side: No.
Dermot(5461) Disputed
4 points

5.5 billion people believe in the God of Abraham

And ?

and Hinduism is quickly being replaced in India. Budhism is nontheistic

Is it being replaced ? And that what will happen Christianity in the future all it takes is time

Also how does it strengthen a god claim ?

I also know what Buddhism is and again so what ?

Secondly, the Bible talks about other gods a lot,

The Bible also talks about a talking Ass

and most of those "gods" have vanished into the pages of

Yes they have just like your one will also , thank you for deafeating you own “ argument “

, so your logic is flawed.

I merely asked a question which youthen went in to support with you “ conclusions “ as in give it enough time and your god will also be just a historical fiction people bring up once in a while

Side: Yes.
1 point

I'm still waiting for someone to prove a god DOES exist. No one has come close yet. Without meaningless biblical "facts", there is none.

I would be a believer if this "god" would make ONE undeniable appearance (should be easy for a REAL god), but, not ONE in 20 centuries. (Plus a few thousand years), THAT is proof enough for ME that the "flying spaghetti monster" is as viable as the "God of Abraham".

Please! Someone prove S/HE/IT "DOES" exist!

Side: Yes.
CucumberHole(46) Disputed
1 point

If God appeared, you'd go make up a naturalistic answer for what happened.

Side: No.
CucumberHole(46) Disputed
1 point

Please! Someone prove S/HE/IT "DOES" exist!

https://youtu.be/bp4NkItgf0E

Side: No.
1 point

U have no proof whatsoever that God exists okay like everything that is to do with God is man made I know it's hard to prove God does or doesn't exit but scientist have proof God doesn't exist this includes stuff like the big bang theory and just asking but how was God created cause know one is just there everything has a creator weather it's a reaction or magic but there is no bible story of how God was created

Side: Yes.
CucumberHole(46) Disputed
1 point

no proof whatsoever that God exists

https://youtu.be/bp4NkItgf0E

Side: No.
1 point

Proof positive that there is no God can be found in the BIBLE.

Anyone who has read and believes in the self contradictory, superstitious hocus pocus contained in this 2000 year old book written by numerous authors should hand themselves in to their nearest psychiatric clinic for professional counselling.

Side: Yes.
CucumberHole(46) Disputed
1 point

Which part?

Side: No.
1 point

Most atheists I know do not claim that there is no God, rather that there is no rational reason to believe in God. It is as hard to prove that no deities exist as it is to prove that there is no "flying spaghetti monster" somewhere in the universe (to use a common example).

If a clear definition of God is provided one can attempt a disproof, sometimes a redutio ad absurdum, where we find a contradiction. Here's one argument:

(1). The Abrahamic God has given us free will.

(2). The Abrahamic God knows what we will do in the future.

Premise (1) contradicts premise (2), therefore (3); The God of the bible cannot exist.

I'm not actually 100% convince by this argument, and even if it works, it doesn't prove no God can exist.

A similarly structured argument, which I'm sure you've heard is the argument from evil. I can't be bothered to go over it here, and it doesn't entirely convince me either.

I hold the position that there is no reason to believe any deity exists, and no reason to believe that one doesn't. Therefore I treat them as being only slightly more plausible than the flying spaghetti monster.

Side: Yes.
Jace(4672) Clarified
1 point

Curious as to why you regard them as being slightly more plausible than the FSM.

Side: Yes.
Mack(535) Clarified
1 point

I believe them to be slightly more plausible because there are at least some accounts of miracles (not enough to be convincing) that increase the probability that some deity exists, but there's no shred of evidence to suggest FSM exists.

Side: Yes.
1 point

we can prove that god does not exist as there are no signs of these supernatural powers. you go to temple or mosque or church and pray for a better exam results, it does not always happen. it may happen because of your consistent efforts but not because of the godly powers. actually god was just created by some people in the ancient period to give people their confidence and belief, but god does not actually exist. so from this i conclude that god does not actually exist.....

Side: Yes.
1 point

we can prove it easily thanks

Side: Yes.
1 point

You can't prove a negative. I can ask you the same question, but instead of god being the object, let's say it's the Flying Spaghetti Monster instead. You can't prove it doesn't exist. Same as I can't prove that a god exists.

Side: Yes.
1 point

You can’t prove that anything DOESN’T exist. It’s simple logic.

Side: Yes.
1 point

It would be as easy to prove He does exist to those who don't believe in Him as it is to prove He doesn't exist to those who do. Belief in God (any God) is a personal choice. I can't ask the Lord to come down and show Himself to everyone any more than you can, this is what belief is about.

Side: Yes.
1 point

No, they can't prove it. They act like they know the Bible, but if you perge them, you quickly find out that most of what they believe is in the Bible, isn't actually in the Bible, and they are bewildered if you challenge them on basic Biblical knowledge.

They say they want proof. But if you provide it, they ignore it, act like nothing happened, and say there is no proof in the next thread. Rinse, wash and repeat.

Side: No.
Dermot(5461) Disputed
2 points

No, they can't prove it.

Yes I know you cannot prove your god exists so why not ask an atheist to prove what you cannot ?

They act like they know the Bible,

I know it better than the majority of “ Christians “ as most have never even read it

but if you perge them,

Perge ?

you quickly find out that most of what they believe is in the Bible, isn't actually in the Bible,

You mean like slavery isn’t in it ?

and they are bewildered if you challenge them on basic Biblical knowledge.

Yes , because most of yous deny what’s actually in the Bible

They say they want proof

Says the guy who wants proof god doesn’t exist , now that’s hilarious , the barefaced cheek of atheists asking for what you insist on

. But if you provide it, they ignore

Please provide it , you will receive a Nobel prize and international fame for achieving what not one of yous has supplied so far

act like nothing happened,

That’s because the “ proofs “ are never supplied are they ?

and say there is no proof in the next thread

Yes , the truth hurts doesn’t it ?

. Rinse, wash and repeat

As you keep doing with still no proofs

Side: Yes.
2 points

Perge them all! XD

Side: Yes.
OmegaPan(678) Disputed
1 point

You mean like slavery isn’t in it ?

Hebrew slavery was voluntary, used to pay off debts, and had time restrictions. Secondly, prove slavery is objectively wrong. Perhaps they are POWs trying to kill you. Perhaps a lot of things.

Side: No.
OmegaPan(678) Disputed
1 point

That’s because the “ proofs “ are never supplied are they

I've seen many proofs on this site. You responded to none of them.

Side: No.
OmegaPan(678) Disputed
1 point

They say they want proof

Says the guy who wants proof god doesn’t exist , now that’s hilarious , the barefaced cheek of atheists asking for what you insist on

I've seen you offered proof. You run off and disengage.

Side: No.
OmegaPan(678) Disputed
1 point

I know it better than the majority of “ Christians “ as most have never even read it

I've seen you claim things are in the Bible that aren't, be clueless on god topics, and have almost no understanding of basic Biblical concepts. Your Bible knowledge rivals your Darwinian Theory knowledge. That is to say, none.

Side: No.
1 point

Its impossible to prove God does not exist because its definition is beyond the realm of science. Science can only establish what can exist within the rules of science. It has nothing to say about something beyond the realm of science. One can choose to believe there is nothing beyond but that's just an opinion and not provable.

Side: No.
Dermot(5461) Disputed
2 points

Its impossible to prove God does not exist because its definition is beyond the realm of science.

Yes , which demonstrates the claim is nonsense and based on nothing

Science can only establish what can exist within the rules of science.

What other “ rules “ do you sugggest they use ?

It has nothing to say about something beyond the realm of science.

Yes strange that isn’t it that scientists don’t waste time on fantasies ?

One can choose to believe there is nothing beyond but that's just an opinion and not provable.

I see no evidence of ghosts , goblins , zombies , demons or gods because there is none , that will do for me

Side: Yes.
2 points

I see no evidence of ghosts , goblins , zombies , demons or gods because there is none , that will do for me

Really? Some people on this site would qualify as zombies. ;D

Side: Yes.
OmegaPan(678) Disputed
1 point

Science can only establish what can exist within the rules of science.

What other “ rules “ do you sugggest they use ?

Examining prophecy, seeing if its specific, then seeing if they come true and if their coming true is improbable without God.

Second, studying James Gates and the work of Physicists.

Side: No.

Not possible. God is unfalsifiable. Making him that much more ridiculous a concept

Side: No.
AveSatanas(4383) Disputed
2 points

10 pages of you quoting bible verses to someone is not evidence of God you retard. The bible is the source of the claims. You cant support claims with themselves.

He explains this to you and you just ignore it. Probably made 6 puppet accounts and upvoted yourself

Side: No.

I’m agnostic (my profile says something else I think). And we are gonna go around in goddamned (excuse the expression) circles with evidence for and against this. Me being agnostic, I’m cant say for sure that one exists or doesn’t exist.

Side: No.
AveSatanas(4383) Disputed
1 point

Atheism and agnosticism are not mutually exclusive.

Agnosticism answers the question: "what do you know?"

You answer saying "I dont know/nobody can know".

But it doesnt answer the question: "what do you believe?"

So what do you believe, going with or in spite of what you know?

If you dont believe in any gods you're an agnostic atheist.

If you do believe theres something you're an agnostic theist or deist

Side: Yes.