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Thanks Bront I no need da stinkin moneys
Debate Score:45
Total Votes:46
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Pssst..Not a single Democrat voted to lower your taxes

Thanks Bront

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I no need da stinkin moneys

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Good. We need higher taxes. Especially corporate tax. We ran two pointless wars off of a credit card and are doing the same with countless other conflicts across the globe with nary an increase in the tax burden so the average citizen doesn't have to feel inconvenienced, which may have been the only reason Bush wasn't dragged out of the white house by the people. One way or another this deficit is going to bite us in the ass down the road, and putting off paying it down is just going to make it hurt worse.

There are two things that the citizen hates: taxes, and going without what those taxes pay for. Do we waste a lot of it on frivolous shit? Sure, and I wish we'd do something about that too. But taxes are a necessary evil, and if it keeps the bridges up and the cops and firemen employed and the military at full readiness and everything else required to make this system function, I'll take a tax increase all goddamn day long- as long as the upper 1% are paying their share too.

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WOW, talk about a good little patsy brainwshed by fake news and politicians for decades.

You just covered most of the Left's talking points for every election since time began. matter how much money we keep having stolen from our paychecks, these corrupt politicians will waste it on their voting blocks, rather than cutting the Debt.

Let me give you an analogy to show you how wrong you are.

If you gave your children a $20 weekly allowance, and they spent it on ciggarettes, would you keep giving them that money. If they also wanted more money from you to pay for some alcohol, would you give it to them?

This is what these corrupt politicians do with our money. THEY WASTE IT ON GETTING RE-ELECTED BY NEVER ADDRESSING THEIR OVERSPENDING.

They refuse to cut wasteful Government programs, social programs, medicaid programs, welfare programs, military programs, etc.etc. etc. because if they did they would lose votes. Our nation is going bankrupt not because of too little miney being taken from us.... it is because they manage and spend our money like drunken fools!

I can not believe we have people like you so conditioned to think we owe these corrupt fools one more dollar.

Do you work for fake news, the Democrat Party or other Leftwing Government agencies?

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And you're absolutely right. These fuckers need to be held accountable.

I work on jet tires. There is a screw that goes in the main landing gear wheel of an F18 Super Hornet that holds the brake key to the rim. Without that screw the brakes don't work on landing and people die. That screw is less than half an inch long and is absolutely nothing special. You can get fifty of the fucking things for five bucks at home depot. But it costs Uncle Sam about ten grand. Per. Shitty. Screw.

Do you think I am unaware of our overspending?

I'm well aware that we need to cut spending. But there are billionaires who were born into money and understand a hard day's work as a downturn in the stock market who pay less of a percentage of taxes than you do. They're able to do that because they're able to pay off the same politicians who bitch and complain about people riding the system, and trade campaign donations for tax writeoff after bailout after kickback. Does that sound like a meritocracy to you? We have a system that is too easy to exploit for personal gain, on both the left and the right, as long as you have the investment capital to get started. That screw? Shit, that's just one fucking item that the military overspends on. You have any idea what kind of supplies are necessary to put a bomb on someone's forehead? You have any idea how much money we could be saving if we could actually negotiate prices for those supplies? Because as soon as the "PROPERTY OF US GOVERNMENT" stamp goes on, the price goes up tenfold at least.

Don't think for a second that I'm not furious at Washington. If I were as bad at my job as these politicians I would be in jail for the rest of my life. But this is not my kid's allowance, this is the National Debt. If we go bust, we are FUCKED. Not just the government, all of us. So, we need to do three things: stop wasting money on frivolous shit, from military logistics to sports arenas and useless wars and bailouts (while keeping the programs that will actually create good paying jobs, like rebuilding our infrastructure and advancing science and technology). Start making the money to pay the debt down, starting with the people in this country who actually have most of the money. And finally hold these corrupt fucks accountable to their voters and to the constitution however the hell we can.

We're not on complete opposite sides of this. But we need to face reality: when the country goes to war, we all have to pay for it somehow or another. We used credit- which was a fucking stupid decision-and that's going to cost us more the longer we put it off. Put it off long enough and the government goes bankrupt and turns America into a third- world fucking country.

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Hello bront:

That's because the bill isn't a tax cut.. It's a tax INCREASE and it blows a YUGE hole in the deficit..


Side: I no need da stinkin moneys
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it blows a YUGE hole in the deficit

1)Uh huh. I remember the left howling as the deficit sprinted from 10 to 15 to 20 trillion...with nerry a thing to show for it...?

2)I've seen models that refute your claim.

3)The most pesimistic liberal claim I have seen is it will add 1 trillion over 10 years, longer than a two term Trump Presidency, and it assumes there will be no economic growth.

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It's a tax INCREASE

Aaah... I forgot, you get your news from the Clinton "News" Network.

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Aaah... I forgot, you get your news from the Clinton "News" Network

Bronto, you are such a spectacular hypocrite that it is beyond a joke. Just the other week you tried to use one of the public forums at BodyBuilding.Com as a news source for the false claim that six of the world's smartest ten people are Christians.

Your double standards are so bizarre that it's legitimately frightening.

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The GOP tax bill does not lower taxes for the middle class and working people. Any possible gains are completely consumed by bills that are no longer deductible (For instance student loan vouchers) or they eventually run out in 2025. The tax cuts for the 1% however, remain permanent.

These are the facts.

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