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Debate Score:23
Arguments:12
Total Votes:23
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Psychoactive Drug Use

ETHICS OF RECREATIONAL USE

Are there any real moral or ethical implications to drug use? Which is to say, is there any possible way that one could determine that drug use, just the concept alone, is wrong?

Should the recreational use of a psychoactive drugs be considered abuse?

-Scopolamine, Dimenhydrinate, Diphenhydramine

-Cocaine, Amphetamine

-LSD

-THC (Marijuana)

-Morphine, Heroin, Oxycodone

-Amphetamine, Methamphetamine

Minus Caffeine and Nicotine. Please don't use legality as an argument. This isn't about legality, it's about morals and ethics.

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Side Score: 15
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Not Acceptable

Side Score: 8
3 points

I wouldn't say it's "acceptable", but I wouldn't go the other way either.

Because the problem pops up only when it is a matter of policy of masses. The big no-no of drug prohibition is a simple: "What if everyone start using?" or "What would you say if your son does it?"

Though it is very clear that the majority of illegal drug users are there for the thrill, I wouldn't start categorizing, but most of marijuana smokers wouldn't have smoked at all if it wasn't illegal, because it wouldn't be on the tv, radio, newspapers etc.. There just wouldn't be a buzz around it.

The real question is: Whether one may lock another behind the bars for something that he digested, used, smoked etc.. And to spice things up, one, more likely, will have some a priori quotes of facts he had learnt by heart, while the other one knows that if there is any brain damage related to drugs - it is in the non-user experience.

Correct me if I'm wrong.

A patient may receive a treatment that might harm a system in his body in order to save another system. It is the PATIENT'S responsibility, after the doctor's approval, to decide whether it pays, should he take that risk.

I've heard of treatments that are illegal in the US, so patients that believe in it, travel all the way to chine, to a specific hospital to obtain it.

If it makes people feel better, if it makes some inspire themselves to become a better compound and companion in the psychological \ social \ physical environment, why stand between the man and his fruit?

Side: Acceptable
Bradf0rd(1431) Disputed
3 points

Again, this isn't about legality.

"The real question is: Whether one may lock another behind the bars for something that he digested, used, smoked etc.. And to spice things up, one, more likely, will have some a priori quotes of facts he had learnt by heart, while the other one knows that if there is any brain damage related to drugs - it is in the non-user experience."

What exactly did you mean by this? Can you put it another way for me, please.

Also, what do you mean when you say:

"I wouldn't say it's "acceptable", but I wouldn't go the other way either."

How can you say that it's only an issue in large social groups, do you know why it's an issue at all? What is wrong with one person doing it? If one wishes, and one is alone with no social pacts intact, then one may do, really, anything that one can do. Add a social group and the dynamics change, do they not? Why only then does it become an issue?

Side: Not Acceptable
3 points

well, PCP is one drug i'm against... cause that makes people like the Hulk... fuck that. violent and invulnerable.

other than that, i really don't care. but i have very limited morals. let 'em do drugs, and if they OD, that just means less people to worry about.

Side: Acceptable
2 points

like, yeah man!!

Side: Acceptable
2 points

I'm keeping an eye on you.

Side: Not Acceptable
1 point

Use ANYTHING you want. Just realize that you're still responsible for ALL of your actions. If we hold people accountable (and make sure they're informed of the risks), then there's no problem, here!

Side: Acceptable
1 point

Everyone should have freedom of mind. And that includes the choice to alter the state of mind using recreational drugs.

Even if there were something morally wrong with it, it would still be wrong for the use to remain illegal, but there is nothing inherently immoral about it. Marijuana, peyote, these are natural. And they have positive effects when used appropriately.

Side: Acceptable
1 point

I must agree on this

"Even if there were something morally wrong with it, it would still be wrong for the use to remain illegal, but there is nothing inherently immoral about it. Marijuana, peyote, these are natural. And they have positive effects when used appropriately."

Here is a personal debate I had with my mother-in-law. And this may open up a new can but could something be moral or immoral based on how it is taken. She claims it is perfectly fine to use THC however it is completely immoral to smoke weed. How can one be right and one be wrong if you end up in the same state of mind?

Personally I believe God put us on this Earth to choose how we want to live our lives. But a bunch of guys got burs up there asses and decided to take away certain freedoms. I believe what the government has done be making these things, drugs that have no affect on other people when you use them, illegal is what is immoral. That's just me... take it for what it is worth.

Side: Acceptable

I had to chose this side because there were certain drugs on your list that I don't think should be legalized. Heroin, morphine, etc. are highly addictive drugs. Although I don't care what other people do, I want to make sure that there are some barriers in place to try and protect my daughters from their bad judgment. What I teach them may not be enough and I want something in place to help me keep them away from drugs.

Side: Not Acceptable
1 point

I said, up above, that I didn't want this to become a fight over legality. I see too much of that on the internets, and it doesn't get anyone anywhere. This is about whether or not drug use has moral implications.

So then essentially what you are saying is that you don't want heroin and the likes to be available because no one can explain addiction in a way that would keep people from doing it if it were available?

How though is this a good thing to do? You're looking out for your children, sure, I get that part, but how can you say because of your children, and their lack of understanding, drugs cannot be used by anyone... What about the people that understand addiction and what the drugs do to you physically and they agree to go somewhere where they will not hurt anyone or increase the likelihood of hurting themselves. How can you tell them that they shouldn't still? "You, bob, cannot have heroin because 15 years ago, I had a daughter!!!"

:P

Side: Not Acceptable
1 point

If one's own expectations of one's youth are not met, that one is at fault.

Side: Acceptable
1 point

Anything that will affect your decision making or make you less able to do something is bad and dangerous.

Especially if it's for, .."recreational" purposes. Like because it feels good.

Like alcohol even. Some guy drinks because he wants to feel good and ends up getting 3 young people killed. How is that right!? No seriously tell me.

Now stuff like weed that mainly hurts you I think is still immoral. Just like somebody eating horribly unhealthy greasy fast food every single day is immoral. In fact that's worse than smoking weed in my opinion. Killing or hurting yourself is wrong, even if it's slow.

Side: Not Acceptable