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Raising the Debt Ceiling

I am for. If this debate is sucessful,  my opinion will be further explained.

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The rules of the debt ceiling were ironically worded in such a way to make holding it hostage unconstitutional. Ironic because the same ones holding it hostage insisted on reading the thing they don't understand publicly upon taking office like some sort of religious ceremony. The tea party is a bunch of idiots. But yeah, as I explained to someone with an elephant avatar who seemed utterly confused, it's not how much you're going to spend, it's how much you spent. It's like saying, "the first? rent? fuck that I'm not paying."

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If you appropriate the money - you spent it - to later say you aren't going to pay will justifiably make interest rates increase.

If you want to curtail future borrowing/spending, it should be done relating to future obligations.

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As a side argument - the budget ceiling should not exist since it conflicts with Congress' own appropriations, leaves the Secretary of the Treasury in charge of the purse instead of Congress, and may not comply with Section 4 of the 14th Amendment.

"The validity of the public debt of the United States, authorized by law... shall not be questioned."

http://www.archives.gov/exhibits/charters/constitution_amendments_11-27.html

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