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Religion- A Slave Mentality

Are organized religions, especially Christianity, Islam, and Judaism, slave mentalities?

Yes

Side Score: 8
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No

Side Score: 3

I think that organized religion is a slave mentality. Look at LDS, a.k.a. mormons. Organized religion attempts to control the individual. It teaches them to obey and not question. In this way I think religion is a slave mentality, and its members no better than dogs or slaves.

Side: yes
2 points

My position is that the belief in the God of the Abrahamic faiths is the belief in a supreme and unalterable tyranny, which is the oldest enemy of our species, of our intellectual freedom, and of our moral autonomy. The proponents of these faiths claim that all of our abundant problems, which in the materialist worldview may include our own insignificance in the face of cosmic time, can be relegated upwards to an absolutist, totalitarian judge. I don’t believe there is a totalitarian solution to our dilemmas as a species. There is no Big Brother watching us and I am glad there isn’t. It is a horrible idea that there is somebody who makes us, who owns us, who supervises us, waking and sleeping, who knows our thoughts and can punish us eternally just for what we think. It is an appalling notion that our eternal father can create us sick, burdened with original sin, and demand us by pain of eternal torture to be well again. In the mind of the believer, we are born in prison and must earn our emancipation. It seems unavoidable to me that to want this to be true is to want to live as a slave. It is wonderful beyond imagining that we now have enough information and enough moral and intellectual courage to declare that this shocking and gruesome proposition is founded on a lie (or more generously, on ancient literary mischief) and to rejoice.

Side: yes

Thank you. It is good to know that some people actually use knowledge to support their beliefs, not the brainwashing or rules of a religion or holy book.

Side: yes
1 point

Religion is a synonym for brainwashing. lllllllllllllllllll

Side: yes
1 point

One question is: how do we know what we know? This is epistemology and goes all the way back to aristotle vs plato. Aristotle says that the world is knowable because we can use our senses and cognition. Plato says that knowledge only exists in a supernatural reality.

But apart from that, a slave is essentially unable to execute their own thoughts. A free person would be able to form concepts and act on their own thoughts. However, religion interjects that thought process and inserts the sins or other behavioral modification they want. Once a person is not free to act on their thoughts, they are a slave. Freedom really has roots in freedom of though and religion aims to limit thoughts.

If thoughts are limited, then acts are limited, and so is speech limited.

Side: Yes

They do demand followers who follow religion like sheep without asking too many questions.

Side: Yes
1 point

If you think about it as brainwashing or slaving, isn't that what all parents do to their children then? They teach their children their morals or what they want their morals to be. Thats the way it is with religion. If parents want their children to be religious, then let them. Its not up to us to judge the way parents raise their children.

If you've never noticed, alot of people are happy with religion in their lives. So, even if it is mentally enslaving, what does it matter?

Side: No
1 point

Religion speaking strictly within the actual religion is not a slave mentality if we are talking about christianity. The relationship is suppose to be a father-son relationship.

Side: No