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 Revolutionists need to understand this. (19)

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Revolutionists need to understand this.

The current economic and political systems that are practiced in western countries have provided the general populace with the best living conditions ever experienced by mankind. now, I'm not implying that our economic and political systems are beyond criticism or aren't subject to positive change, I am willing to discuss alternatives, but arbitrarily destroying what has provided us with virtually everything we have won't lead to anything positive.
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Indeed, people who want to blow up the status quo often have little appreciation for how hard it was just to reach the state they now want to blow up. And, they either have no real plan for what comes next, or they have countless plans they can't agree on, or they agreed on a plan but it's a poorly informed one. Just to use one example, the Americans who swept the Republicans to power were adamant Obamacare had to go, but every single one of the "or's" I listed above came true when they tried to ban and replace it.

Life in Western society is pretty good despite its many problems.

outlaw60(8867) Clarified
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Let's talk about the Obamacare Exchanges can you tell me what a success they were ?

Are you aware of the number of failures there are in the Obamacare Exchanges if so what caused the failures !

Grenache(4838) Disputed
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Where is your replacement?

Seriously.

Without a valid replacement everything I said is true.

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The current economic and political systems that are practiced in western countries have provided the general populace with the best living conditions ever experienced by mankind

Evidently, it is you who needs to understand that at one point in history, the same could be said of life in caves, or monarchism, or feudalism. Not knowing the future does not mean one should fail to acknowledge that time moves forward. Furthermore, you demonstrate typical Americanized bias in failing to acknowledge the success of the Soviet Union, which ended only because of a 40 year proxy war with America. You can't have a fight about who has the best economic system any more than you can have a fight about who has the best athletes. I notice this ridiculously childish mentality from Americans a lot. It takes me back to my schooldays when I would argue with one of the "special" kids about some historical fact or another, and he would promptly challenge me to a fight to see who was correct.

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Not knowing the future does not mean one should fail to acknowledge that time moves forward

So things are the best in human history, but let's scrap it and "move forward, just because". You should become familiar with the term "regressive".

Someone cue the Twilight Zone theme song.

Quantumhead(935) Disputed
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So things are the best in human history, but let's scrap it and "move forward, just because

You don't have a choice about moving forward, dopey. It is going to happen whether you like it or not. Trying to keep society locked in the 17th century just because you prefer it there is a pretty safe sign that you are barking mad.

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It takes me back to my schooldays when I would argue with one of the "special" kids about some historical fact or another, and he would promptly challenge me to a fight to see who was correct

So per your own logic... Great Britain has "special kids". Interesting....

Cocopops Clarified
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The U.K. does have ''special kids'', special needs kids that is.

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I notice this ridiculously childish mentality from Americans a lot

I probably wouldn't try to make a point that the country that kicked your butt, had to save you from Hitler, and is kicking your butt now, is filled with idiots.

Cocopops Clarified
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American know how, wherewithal, strong political and military leadership along with it's well trained and outstandingly courageous armed forces is what won WW2 and saved ( ''notso'' Great )Britain from becoming a German satellite.

Germany could not have been defeated without a second front and there wouldn't have been any second front if it had not been for the United States of America.

American financial aid in the form of the ''Marshall Plan''helped greatly to relieve the hardship of British civilians and give a kick start to the economy after WW2.

Once more it was American might and determination which contained the an expansionist Soviet Union from '' appropriating'' western Europe as it did with the Eastern Bloc countries.

It's to the United States as the leader of the free world that Britain and all of Europe look to for security as it peers nervously at the Sabre rattling of Vladimir Putin's belligerent Russia.

Tantrumhead is childress because he '' fires blanks'' and in his childless and sexually inadequate state he has become an embittered shitbag and who achieves imagined orgasims by mischievously claiming or even disputing these irrefutable truths.

Such spiteful denials should be treated with the contempt they deserve and dismissed as the confused ramblings of a diseased mind.

I agree with you completely. I sadly was born in America, and am horrified of what goes on here. I want out to the UK or Italy ASAP.

socratic4(54) Disputed
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Quantumhead,

Yes, everything moves forward, but through slow pragmatism, people constantly try new things and what fails dies out while what works better stays. Virtually no positive progression ever came from a swift and forceful implementation of anything.

outlaw60(8867) Clarified
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No offense but you are really wasting your time with the rabid idiot known as Q-Head.

Quantumhead(935) Disputed
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Yes, everything moves forward, but through slow pragmatism, people constantly try new things and what fails dies out while what works stays.

You have such a naive understanding of reality that, forgive me, but it really is like speaking to a child. The history of humanity is the history of war. Hence, what stays is not what works, but rather what is forced to work. Do you suppose Britain had twenty century's worth of kings because the people thought being subjugated to the will of one man's right by bloodline and/or conquest to rule over their life and death, worked? Or do you suppose the king just used his power to ensure no other systems were ever tried?

Cocopops Disputed
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Are you potty trained yet shithead or do you still crap your knickers?

You concoct a witch's brew made up of bullshit, lies, wishful thinking and embarrassing juvenile romantic notions, stir it all up into a gurgling stew of eyewateringly ridiculous nonsense and then present as a post as a means of getting back at normal red blooded males and healthy females.

You are to a female what an ashtray on a motor bike would be.

You try to compensate for your dickless state by spewing out pointless and meaningless venom on other participants who have expressed their genuine views on a given thread.

You're proof that disease ridden prostitutes have children.

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Tantrumhead is just a vicious troll who has yet to attempt to debate on C D , he just vents his anger and frustration at people who disagree with his idiotic theories .

His 8 alt accounts display his juvenile diseased brains rantings in 8 similar ways , he's also a peadophile

MarcusAlnari(18) Disputed
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Remember the fine words by the fine man Mahatma Gandhi "An eye for an eye only leaves the whole world blind." Some are just best left ignored.

MarcusAlnari(18) Disputed
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Have you nothing better to do? Open a book on Socrates or something, or actually learn your history, and that "Special" people are still people. Have you ever met a high functioning Autistic person. Try conversing with one, they very well may teach you something.